DA vs ECNL vs everything else

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is not getting Girls DA ... already posted on DCUM.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I'll respond as if you're serious.

There has been no official word on Arlington getting the girls DA. What there has been is an announcement from ECNL that Loudoun has gotten into that league, and then some dumba$$ made the idiotic leap of logic that since ECNL made an announcement but there was no announcement about Arlington from US Soccer, then obviously Arlington didn't get DA.

At this time, we do not know whether Arlington is getting a girls DA because US Soccer has not made ANY announcements about new clubs yet. http://www.ussoccerda.com/story-archive
Personally, I don't think there's a chance in heck that Arlington would get GA, but until we hear that some clubs have been added to the girls DA and Arlington isn't on that list, it's all speculation, uninformed at that.

A week ago I would have said you are right. I actually think Arlington stands a good chance (and no I am not an Arlington parent -- my daughter plays DA/ECNL already).

What changed for you? Have you heard rumors out of ASA? There's been facts stated on this board that has made me waver in my opinion.

Knowing the VDA was switching to ECNL changed it for me. IF Arlington can find the field space, they are a logical fit to replace the VDA.

I’m not convinced DA needs to replace VDA. It might be best for all leagues if Arlington went ECNL.

They probably don't have a choice anyway.
Arlington is not ready for DA, can't get the fields, and is focused on the boys DA anyway.
USSF won't be beat as top dog, so Girls DA can take the super elite, and who cares for most who don't have or want that commitment .
Going ECNL would broaden ECNL's reach and keep girls at home clubs (like BRYC, VDA, Loudoun, etc.........). Would of course cement ECNL as the 2nd Tier for girls soccer, but ECNL fine with that as long as it gets players and clubs and $$ for its showcases. Right?

But if you fast forward a few years, then does one question how many colleges will pay attention to a league that is totally watered down?
Now, any half decent girl in Arlinton will be in ECNL, instead of only the best going to Braddock or Mclean. Same for Loudoun, where they used to go to FCV for ECNL. The ECNL will not be the same product as the past.
There's the rub.
Cost will be the same, but one hopes the new ECNL clubs are not selling the same past statistics.
Parents will eventually realize that for your age group you need to travel to the best ECNL team/club in the area, perhaps to Loudoun, to get on the radar of anyone.

Not sure what is getting accomplished here. Thoughts?
Do we really need another ECNL club?

Expanding ECNL is more of a CCL killer than a watering down GDA. Its the same kids as CCL or EDP anyways, just a more cohesive structure.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76799/anson-dorrance-on-soccer-politics-marrying-the-ec.html

Q: When U.S. Soccer sends out a press release announcing a youth national team roster, it mentions how many of the players play for DA clubs -- for example: "Sixteen of the [22] players come from U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy clubs" -- but doesn't mention what leagues the other players play in ...

ANSON DORRANCE: It's as if they're saying, “We’re the ones developing the players.” No, you’re not developing the players. You’re recruiting the players. Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them. You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams. How do you do that? You do that by showing 70 percent of the kids on a youth national team came from a DA team, "so everybody has to be there."

“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”

..... and ECNL was developing players or was it the clubs?? ECNL is just a platform. How are they developing players? nothing burger.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Coach Dorrance and every other college coach simply recruit his players?

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Anonymous wrote:DA v ECNL, nothing burger!...... Arl. does NOT need an "elite" option. Why change anything - one big bubble and families fulfill quests when DD makes red. Girls are happy,, no one worries too much about the next level or play quality. DA/ECNL don't fit with State cup and king of CCL team ..... seriously, only egos driving this debate of whether Arl. need DA or ECNL. PP is right, would only rebadge Red

You, my friend (not really), are obnoxious. And, wrong (but you can't admit that). But keep believing your own babble. And eat that nothing burger you keep serving up.

You are that soccer dad in the track suit never happy that DD can just have fun with friends playing soccer

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is not getting Girls DA ... already posted on DCUM.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I'll respond as if you're serious.

There has been no official word on Arlington getting the girls DA. What there has been is an announcement from ECNL that Loudoun has gotten into that league, and then some dumba$$ made the idiotic leap of logic that since ECNL made an announcement but there was no announcement about Arlington from US Soccer, then obviously Arlington didn't get DA.

At this time, we do not know whether Arlington is getting a girls DA because US Soccer has not made ANY announcements about new clubs yet. http://www.ussoccerda.com/story-archive
Personally, I don't think there's a chance in heck that Arlington would get GA, but until we hear that some clubs have been added to the girls DA and Arlington isn't on that list, it's all speculation, uninformed at that.

A week ago I would have said you are right. I actually think Arlington stands a good chance (and no I am not an Arlington parent -- my daughter plays DA/ECNL already).

What changed for you? Have you heard rumors out of ASA? There's been facts stated on this board that has made me waver in my opinion.

Knowing the VDA was switching to ECNL changed it for me. IF Arlington can find the field space, they are a logical fit to replace the VDA.

I’m not convinced DA needs to replace VDA. It might be best for all leagues if Arlington went ECNL.

They probably don't have a choice anyway.
Arlington is not ready for DA, can't get the fields, and is focused on the boys DA anyway.
USSF won't be beat as top dog, so Girls DA can take the super elite, and who cares for most who don't have or want that commitment .
Going ECNL would broaden ECNL's reach and keep girls at home clubs (like BRYC, VDA, Loudoun, etc.........). Would of course cement ECNL as the 2nd Tier for girls soccer, but ECNL fine with that as long as it gets players and clubs and $$ for its showcases. Right?

But if you fast forward a few years, then does one question how many colleges will pay attention to a league that is totally watered down?
Now, any half decent girl in Arlinton will be in ECNL, instead of only the best going to Braddock or Mclean. Same for Loudoun, where they used to go to FCV for ECNL. The ECNL will not be the same product as the past.
There's the rub.
Cost will be the same, but one hopes the new ECNL clubs are not selling the same past statistics.
Parents will eventually realize that for your age group you need to travel to the best ECNL team/club in the area, perhaps to Loudoun, to get on the radar of anyone.

Not sure what is getting accomplished here. Thoughts?
Do we really need another ECNL club?

Expanding ECNL is more of a CCL killer than a watering down GDA. Its the same kids as CCL or EDP anyways, just a more cohesive structure.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76799/anson-dorrance-on-soccer-politics-marrying-the-ec.html

Q: When U.S. Soccer sends out a press release announcing a youth national team roster, it mentions how many of the players play for DA clubs -- for example: "Sixteen of the [22] players come from U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy clubs" -- but doesn't mention what leagues the other players play in ...

ANSON DORRANCE: It's as if they're saying, “We’re the ones developing the players.” No, you’re not developing the players. You’re recruiting the players. Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them. You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams. How do you do that? You do that by showing 70 percent of the kids on a youth national team came from a DA team, "so everybody has to be there."

“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”

..... and ECNL was developing players or was it the clubs?? ECNL is just a platform. How are they developing players? nothing burger.

Heard that in a meeting last night. Hmmmm funny how quick it got up here. I swear this stuff is funnier than anything on TV.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ the pejorative term for these teams on this board is CASH COWS

VDA parents have been notified they are dropping out of DA and going ECNL. Commence craziness talk. 3, 2, 1...

wow, have they said when they are announcing it. Have they said whether they were kicked out of GDA or chose to move to ECNL and why? Interesting if true. Seems like going backwards.

You can tell that is not true. Parents are always the last to know!

It is true.

Just girls or both boys and girls?

Just girls

Opted out. Not kicked out. The head of Girls VDA is also the newly elected chairman of US Club Soccer. I would assume that had some impact.

and so many ODP coaches in the VDA clubs too -- conflict for them not to be able to encourage their players to do ODP

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is not getting Girls DA ... already posted on DCUM.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I'll respond as if you're serious.

There has been no official word on Arlington getting the girls DA. What there has been is an announcement from ECNL that Loudoun has gotten into that league, and then some dumba$$ made the idiotic leap of logic that since ECNL made an announcement but there was no announcement about Arlington from US Soccer, then obviously Arlington didn't get DA.

At this time, we do not know whether Arlington is getting a girls DA because US Soccer has not made ANY announcements about new clubs yet. http://www.ussoccerda.com/story-archive
Personally, I don't think there's a chance in heck that Arlington would get GA, but until we hear that some clubs have been added to the girls DA and Arlington isn't on that list, it's all speculation, uninformed at that.

A week ago I would have said you are right. I actually think Arlington stands a good chance (and no I am not an Arlington parent -- my daughter plays DA/ECNL already).

What changed for you? Have you heard rumors out of ASA? There's been facts stated on this board that has made me waver in my opinion.

Knowing the VDA was switching to ECNL changed it for me. IF Arlington can find the field space, they are a logical fit to replace the VDA.

I’m not convinced DA needs to replace VDA. It might be best for all leagues if Arlington went ECNL.

They probably don't have a choice anyway.
Arlington is not ready for DA, can't get the fields, and is focused on the boys DA anyway.
USSF won't be beat as top dog, so Girls DA can take the super elite, and who cares for most who don't have or want that commitment .
Going ECNL would broaden ECNL's reach and keep girls at home clubs (like BRYC, VDA, Loudoun, etc.........). Would of course cement ECNL as the 2nd Tier for girls soccer, but ECNL fine with that as long as it gets players and clubs and $$ for its showcases. Right?

But if you fast forward a few years, then does one question how many colleges will pay attention to a league that is totally watered down?
Now, any half decent girl in Arlinton will be in ECNL, instead of only the best going to Braddock or Mclean. Same for Loudoun, where they used to go to FCV for ECNL. The ECNL will not be the same product as the past.
There's the rub.
Cost will be the same, but one hopes the new ECNL clubs are not selling the same past statistics.
Parents will eventually realize that for your age group you need to travel to the best ECNL team/club in the area, perhaps to Loudoun, to get on the radar of anyone.

Not sure what is getting accomplished here. Thoughts?
Do we really need another ECNL club?

Expanding ECNL is more of a CCL killer than a watering down GDA. Its the same kids as CCL or EDP anyways, just a more cohesive structure.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76799/anson-dorrance-on-soccer-politics-marrying-the-ec.html

Q: When U.S. Soccer sends out a press release announcing a youth national team roster, it mentions how many of the players play for DA clubs -- for example: "Sixteen of the [22] players come from U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy clubs" -- but doesn't mention what leagues the other players play in ...

ANSON DORRANCE: It's as if they're saying, “We’re the ones developing the players.” No, you’re not developing the players. You’re recruiting the players. Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them. You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams. How do you do that? You do that by showing 70 percent of the kids on a youth national team came from a DA team, "so everybody has to be there."

“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”

..... and ECNL was developing players or was it the clubs?? ECNL is just a platform. How are they developing players? nothing burger.

Heard that in a meeting last night. Hmmmm funny how quick it got up here. I swear this stuff is funnier than anything on TV.

Discussing at an Arl. meeting? why be sheep and follow everyone else . . ..... 99% of parents are happy, or 98.5% .... I have heard no one asking for ECNL or some elite this or that. Do you think the BRYC parents were happy last year? I bet a lot would have been fine staying in CCL competing for King - a good league. kids have fun playing travel soccer and it works fine for Arl. What did they say at the meeting????

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is not getting Girls DA ... already posted on DCUM.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I'll respond as if you're serious.

There has been no official word on Arlington getting the girls DA. What there has been is an announcement from ECNL that Loudoun has gotten into that league, and then some dumba$$ made the idiotic leap of logic that since ECNL made an announcement but there was no announcement about Arlington from US Soccer, then obviously Arlington didn't get DA.

At this time, we do not know whether Arlington is getting a girls DA because US Soccer has not made ANY announcements about new clubs yet. http://www.ussoccerda.com/story-archive
Personally, I don't think there's a chance in heck that Arlington would get GA, but until we hear that some clubs have been added to the girls DA and Arlington isn't on that list, it's all speculation, uninformed at that.

A week ago I would have said you are right. I actually think Arlington stands a good chance (and no I am not an Arlington parent -- my daughter plays DA/ECNL already).

What changed for you? Have you heard rumors out of ASA? There's been facts stated on this board that has made me waver in my opinion.

Knowing the VDA was switching to ECNL changed it for me. IF Arlington can find the field space, they are a logical fit to replace the VDA.

I’m not convinced DA needs to replace VDA. It might be best for all leagues if Arlington went ECNL.

They probably don't have a choice anyway.
Arlington is not ready for DA, can't get the fields, and is focused on the boys DA anyway.
USSF won't be beat as top dog, so Girls DA can take the super elite, and who cares for most who don't have or want that commitment .
Going ECNL would broaden ECNL's reach and keep girls at home clubs (like BRYC, VDA, Loudoun, etc.........). Would of course cement ECNL as the 2nd Tier for girls soccer, but ECNL fine with that as long as it gets players and clubs and $$ for its showcases. Right?

But if you fast forward a few years, then does one question how many colleges will pay attention to a league that is totally watered down?
Now, any half decent girl in Arlinton will be in ECNL, instead of only the best going to Braddock or Mclean. Same for Loudoun, where they used to go to FCV for ECNL. The ECNL will not be the same product as the past.
There's the rub.
Cost will be the same, but one hopes the new ECNL clubs are not selling the same past statistics.
Parents will eventually realize that for your age group you need to travel to the best ECNL team/club in the area, perhaps to Loudoun, to get on the radar of anyone.

Not sure what is getting accomplished here. Thoughts?
Do we really need another ECNL club?

Expanding ECNL is more of a CCL killer than a watering down GDA. Its the same kids as CCL or EDP anyways, just a more cohesive structure.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76799/anson-dorrance-on-soccer-politics-marrying-the-ec.html

Q: When U.S. Soccer sends out a press release announcing a youth national team roster, it mentions how many of the players play for DA clubs -- for example: "Sixteen of the [22] players come from U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy clubs" -- but doesn't mention what leagues the other players play in ...

ANSON DORRANCE: It's as if they're saying, “We’re the ones developing the players.” No, you’re not developing the players. You’re recruiting the players. Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them. You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams. How do you do that? You do that by showing 70 percent of the kids on a youth national team came from a DA team, "so everybody has to be there."

“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”

..... and ECNL was developing players or was it the clubs?? ECNL is just a platform. How are they developing players? nothing burger.

Heard that in a meeting last night. Hmmmm funny how quick it got up here. I swear this stuff is funnier than anything on TV.

Discussing at an Arl. meeting? why be sheep and follow everyone else . . ..... 99% of parents are happy, or 98.5% .... I have heard no one asking for ECNL or some elite this or that. Do you think the BRYC parents were happy last year? I bet a lot would have been fine staying in CCL competing for King - a good league. kids have fun playing travel soccer and it works fine for Arl. What did they say at the meeting????

I would guess Loudoun meeting since they had one last night

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is not getting Girls DA ... already posted on DCUM.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not, but I'll respond as if you're serious.

There has been no official word on Arlington getting the girls DA. What there has been is an announcement from ECNL that Loudoun has gotten into that league, and then some dumba$$ made the idiotic leap of logic that since ECNL made an announcement but there was no announcement about Arlington from US Soccer, then obviously Arlington didn't get DA.

At this time, we do not know whether Arlington is getting a girls DA because US Soccer has not made ANY announcements about new clubs yet. http://www.ussoccerda.com/story-archive
Personally, I don't think there's a chance in heck that Arlington would get GA, but until we hear that some clubs have been added to the girls DA and Arlington isn't on that list, it's all speculation, uninformed at that.

A week ago I would have said you are right. I actually think Arlington stands a good chance (and no I am not an Arlington parent -- my daughter plays DA/ECNL already).

What changed for you? Have you heard rumors out of ASA? There's been facts stated on this board that has made me waver in my opinion.

Knowing the VDA was switching to ECNL changed it for me. IF Arlington can find the field space, they are a logical fit to replace the VDA.

I’m not convinced DA needs to replace VDA. It might be best for all leagues if Arlington went ECNL.

They probably don't have a choice anyway.
Arlington is not ready for DA, can't get the fields, and is focused on the boys DA anyway.
USSF won't be beat as top dog, so Girls DA can take the super elite, and who cares for most who don't have or want that commitment .
Going ECNL would broaden ECNL's reach and keep girls at home clubs (like BRYC, VDA, Loudoun, etc.........). Would of course cement ECNL as the 2nd Tier for girls soccer, but ECNL fine with that as long as it gets players and clubs and $$ for its showcases. Right?

But if you fast forward a few years, then does one question how many colleges will pay attention to a league that is totally watered down?
Now, any half decent girl in Arlinton will be in ECNL, instead of only the best going to Braddock or Mclean. Same for Loudoun, where they used to go to FCV for ECNL. The ECNL will not be the same product as the past.
There's the rub.
Cost will be the same, but one hopes the new ECNL clubs are not selling the same past statistics.
Parents will eventually realize that for your age group you need to travel to the best ECNL team/club in the area, perhaps to Loudoun, to get on the radar of anyone.

Not sure what is getting accomplished here. Thoughts?
Do we really need another ECNL club?

Expanding ECNL is more of a CCL killer than a watering down GDA. Its the same kids as CCL or EDP anyways, just a more cohesive structure.

https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/76799/anson-dorrance-on-soccer-politics-marrying-the-ec.html

Q: When U.S. Soccer sends out a press release announcing a youth national team roster, it mentions how many of the players play for DA clubs -- for example: "Sixteen of the [22] players come from U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy clubs" -- but doesn't mention what leagues the other players play in ...

ANSON DORRANCE: It's as if they're saying, “We’re the ones developing the players.” No, you’re not developing the players. You’re recruiting the players. Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them. You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams. How do you do that? You do that by showing 70 percent of the kids on a youth national team came from a DA team, "so everybody has to be there."

“Please don’t try and pretend because 70 percent of the players on a youth national team are from the DA, you’re developing them,” he told Soccer America. “You and I both know they ripped these kids off from ECNL teams.”

..... and ECNL was developing players or was it the clubs?? ECNL is just a platform. How are they developing players? nothing burger.

Heard that in a meeting last night. Hmmmm funny how quick it got up here. I swear this stuff is funnier than anything on TV.

Discussing at an Arl. meeting? why be sheep and follow everyone else . . ..... 99% of parents are happy, or 98.5% .... I have heard no one asking for ECNL or some elite this or that. Do you think the BRYC parents were happy last year? I bet a lot would have been fine staying in CCL competing for King - a good league. kids have fun playing travel soccer and it works fine for Arl. What did they say at the meeting????

I would guess Loudoun meeting since they had one last night

McLean had an ECNL meeting too last night.

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What was said at the Loudoun, McLean, and Arlington(?) meetings last night about ECNL, Anson Dorrance, Girl's DA, etc?

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Anonymous wrote:Discussing at an Arl. meeting? why be sheep and follow everyone else . . ..... 99% of parents are happy, or 98.5% .... I have heard no one asking for ECNL or some elite this or that. Do you think the BRYC parents were happy last year? I bet a lot would have been fine staying in CCL competing for King - a good league. kids have fun playing travel soccer and it works fine for Arl. What did they say at the meeting????

As the parent of a girl BRYC player last year, I was very happy they moved to ECNL, and I think pretty much all of the other parents of girl players were too once they understood the costs would be similar. On the boys side, not as much.

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Anonymous wrote:Discussing at an Arl. meeting? why be sheep and follow everyone else . . ..... 99% of parents are happy, or 98.5% .... I have heard no one asking for ECNL or some elite this or that. Do you think the BRYC parents were happy last year? I bet a lot would have been fine staying in CCL competing for King - a good league. kids have fun playing travel soccer and it works fine for Arl. What did they say at the meeting????

As the parent of a girl BRYC player last year, I was very happy they moved to ECNL, and I think pretty much all of the other parents of girl players were too once they understood the costs would be similar. On the boys side, not as much.

I thought the ECNL was at least twice the cost of club when you add in all the airfare and hotels for the showcases. Many an ECNL parent has told us well over $5K. Did any meetings cover the total cost commitment of ECNL for a seasonal year? (I've considered DA and ECNL more or less equal and both much more then basic club.)

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The costs for a good travel team are close to $5k even if you're not in ECNL (and I'm one of the posters who has stated the $5k number on this board before). You're doing WAGS, CASL, Bethesda, Disney, Jeff Cup and PDA for tourneys, and then State Cup on top of league games. Hotels and travel add up quickly.

So for ECNL, instead of Disney, you do ECNL Florida so that's a wash. PDA and JeffCup are the same. So you do ECNL Texas or Arizona instead of Bethesda, WAGS, and/or CASL. So that makes ECNL a little higher but then you're not doing State Cup, or Region 1 league, or National League. Out of state travel for league games is a wash because BRYC pays for buses so you don't have to go with the team, pay for your gas and the hotel rooms are split between more people (i/o of paying for one room for me and my kid, I pay for one-third of a room). Yes, you might have to pay to go to ECNL Nationals, but then you might have had to pay for USYS Regionals. All in all, not a notable difference in costs for a good team, and maybe a little more for just a decent team, but then the team is getting more exposure from the ECNL showcases than they otherwise would from playing in lower flights at tournaments.

So again, all in all, I'm very happy that BRYC went to ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the DA application, I don't see how Arlington meets the criteria for a girls DA, from field space to quality of players to quality of coaches. And I would be very surprised if Arlington attracted the level of players to be competitive in the DA (not that VDA is that competitive). Bethesda players would still do Spirit MD if they want DA; maybe a few of the Arlington girls who moved to BRYC or McLean might move back but most probably left Arlington because they were dissatisfied in some way; too far away to attract more than a couple former VDA players, and only a Spirit VA bench warmer would switch. In short, an Arlington girls DA would be no better, and probably worse, than the current VDA program

Which doesn't mean Arlington might not get a DA, but it will because of spite (for ECNL) and desperation (from feeling the need to replace VDA).

This. Fields and player pool are critical to US Soccer. ASA does not pass the test anymore then MYS did five years ago when US Soccer rescinded its full Boys DA for those same two reasons:

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/mclean-youth-soccer-kicked-out-of-development-academy/

The new DA announcements will be out tomorrow, March 2nd. ASA does not merit a Girls DA and will not get one. The leaker already posted this on DCUM days ago.

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Anonymous wrote:DA v ECNL, nothing burger!...... Arl. does NOT need an "elite" option. Why change anything - one big bubble and families fulfill quests when DD makes red. Girls are happy,, no one worries too much about the next level or play quality. DA/ECNL don't fit with State cup and king of CCL team ..... seriously, only egos driving this debate of whether Arl. need DA or ECNL. PP is right, would only rebadge Red

You, my friend (not really), are obnoxious. And, wrong (but you can't admit that). But keep believing your own babble. And eat that nothing burger you keep serving up.

You are that soccer dad in the track suit never happy that DD can just have fun with friends playing soccer

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Burger Boy.

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Anonymous wrote:The costs for a good travel team are close to $5k even if you're not in ECNL (and I'm one of the posters who has stated the $5k number on this board before). You're doing WAGS, CASL, Bethesda, Disney, Jeff Cup and PDA for tourneys, and then State Cup on top of league games. Hotels and travel add up quickly.

So for ECNL, instead of Disney, you do ECNL Florida so that's a wash. PDA and JeffCup are the same. So you do ECNL Texas or Arizona instead of Bethesda, WAGS, and/or CASL. So that makes ECNL a little higher but then you're not doing State Cup, or Region 1 league, or National League. Out of state travel for league games is a wash because BRYC pays for buses so you don't have to go with the team, pay for your gas and the hotel rooms are split between more people (i/o of paying for one room for me and my kid, I pay for one-third of a room). Yes, you might have to pay to go to ECNL Nationals, but then you might have had to pay for USYS Regionals. All in all, not a notable difference in costs for a good team, and maybe a little more for just a decent team, but then the team is getting more exposure from the ECNL showcases than they otherwise would from playing in lower flights at tournaments.

So again, all in all, I'm very happy that BRYC went to ECNL.

Wow we must not be on a good club team. Pay nowhere near that and we are at a strong ccl club on a decent team.

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Anonymous wrote:The costs for a good travel team are close to $5k even if you're not in ECNL (and I'm one of the posters who has stated the $5k number on this board before). You're doing WAGS, CASL, Bethesda, Disney, Jeff Cup and PDA for tourneys, and then State Cup on top of league games. Hotels and travel add up quickly.

So for ECNL, instead of Disney, you do ECNL Florida so that's a wash. PDA and JeffCup are the same. So you do ECNL Texas or Arizona instead of Bethesda, WAGS, and/or CASL. So that makes ECNL a little higher but then you're not doing State Cup, or Region 1 league, or National League. Out of state travel for league games is a wash because BRYC pays for buses so you don't have to go with the team, pay for your gas and the hotel rooms are split between more people (i/o of paying for one room for me and my kid, I pay for one-third of a room). Yes, you might have to pay to go to ECNL Nationals, but then you might have had to pay for USYS Regionals. All in all, not a notable difference in costs for a good team, and maybe a little more for just a decent team, but then the team is getting more exposure from the ECNL showcases than they otherwise would from playing in lower flights at tournaments.

So again, all in all, I'm very happy that BRYC went to ECNL.

"Some have said our $5,000 annual fee is higher than other area elite programs, but when considered as a Total Cost of Participation as compared to other clubs, the fee shouldn’t seem out of line considering we include so many things that other clubs charge for incrementally outside of their official “fee” structures.

INCLUDED IN OUR FEE
All Coaching and Specialty Training
All Game Fields and Training Space
All Required Uniforms and Practice Apparel and Equipment / Travel bag
Facilities rentals for classrooms, video sessions, meetings, and gatherings
Dedicated Athletic Trainer at every game, at least one practice per week, and typically a second to lead sessions for players recovering from injury.
Any required supplemental training such as futsal, speed, strength and agility
Medical / Fitness screenings and testing
Season Tickets and special access to the professional team
Numerous sponsor-provided services and items

NOT INCLUDED IN OUR FEE
[/b[b]]Personal Travel Expenses
Entry fees to any showcase tournaments outside the DA structure"

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