Why do you let your kid run around at a restaurant?

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

Court is a threat to serious litigators who know exactly what happens in court. Unlike you, litigators avoid courts because they know the ramifications. If you already can't control your child, how are you going to run a side lawsuit?

Lol. As a litigator I would absolutely drag your ass to court if you (adult) assaulted my child.

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Note to self: before hiring a lawyer, ask if they have ever threatened litigation or counter-litigation on DCUM. And if they have, go find somebody else.

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When we were young and thought the whole world revolved around our toddler firstborn, we let him run around casual restaurants. He would go up to other tables and smile and wave, but we stopped when we realized he was hindering the wait staff, and perhaps bothering other people, despite the fact everyone smiled back at him.

We never let our second do the same, since we learned our lesson with the first.

However, I have to admit that when a darling little child sidles up to our table and gives us a smile wreathed in ketchup, I melt

Good of you to admit that. Of course he was bothering people; you don't think smiles mean he wasn't?

PP you were responding to - not at first, I was so happy people thought he was cute! I am not from this country and this two-faced American way is at odds with the more direct dealings of my native country.

But now I know!

You being self-absorbed has nothing to do with your country of origin.

Oh of course: I wrote that I was young and thought the world revolved around my kid. I accept all your criticism!

And I have warm feelings for little kids running around me in public places! Just because I started teaching my kids not to do this, it doesn't mean I resent others letting their kids run around. They're all so cute and joyful! I don't get this frustration some of you are feeling. None of this is a big deal. Enjoy your life.

Jesus Christ. Why are you being such a b****. The poster admitted that she was young and learned her lesson. I swear. Post like this meet to me prove that if you're not perfect from the get-go than your may as well be a big pile of flaming dog poo in some people's eyes. Jesus

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

Court is a threat to serious litigators who know exactly what happens in court. Unlike you, litigators avoid courts because they know the ramifications. If you already can't control your child, how are you going to run a side lawsuit?

Lol. As a litigator I would absolutely drag your ass to court if you (adult) assaulted my child.

You were allowed to reproduce?

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Last month, I was at a restaurant when a kid managed to knock his booster seat off the chair and bang his head on the floor. He'd been being such an obnoxious little asshole earlier, banging, screeeching, fighting, and kicking. No sympathy from anybody, just a feeling of maybe there is some justice in the world after all. Nobody enjoys an obnoxious kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I was one of those who used to judge parents very harshly when the kids were not on their best behavior. And then I gave birth to a wonderful, adorable little boy with non-visible special needs. We rarely go out to eat, but sometimes my husband's relatives basically force us by taking offense if we don't come to their events at restaurants.

My son cannot sit still and becomes easily agitated. He calms himself by running up and down the aisles of restaurants and through tables. Everyone takes a turn going to follow him and make sure he does not get in trouble, but I know he still disruptive to other diners. He is trying his best and so are we, his parents. But it is very hard.

Why don't you take him outside instead of disrupting others?

I do. We spend much of our time outside while everyone else eats at these obnoxious events my in-laws like to hold. inevitably, one of them will come outside and ask us to come in so they can take photos or see my son, with the implication being that I am keeping him away from them. It is a very tough situation made harder by thoughtless people.

Who is thoughtless, your in-laws?

Have you not explained to your in laws that your child is handicapped and cannot participate in these events?

+1 And if they still don't "care", then have you thought of just not going? How can they "force" you to attend? I understand that they probably make your situation very uncomfortable, but then, your DH should be the one running interference and explaining it to them.

PP here, thanks for your unsolicited advice, but I didn't post for your input. I answered the OP's question. That's all.

At some point you have to stop making excuses. You and your husband are presumably grown adults. If you know your kid can't function in certain settings, don't put out him in those situations. You don't get to say - oh it will be hard, or oh other people won't listen - and therefore I will endanger my kid and disrupt everyone in a restaurant. Sorry, it doesn't, or at least shouldn't, work that way. At some point, you should take responsibility for making decisions that are unfair to your kid and other patrons since it is your choice - not your meany in-laws - for going to the restaurant and/or bringing your kid back in when you know he won't be able to handle it.

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Special needs or not, you are setting your child up for failure over and over and it is he who pays the price. You as the parent are being irresponsible by putting him in that position. Period. Put your child, especially one with special needs, before your in-laws, parents, anyone for he needs the support the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Last month, I was at a restaurant when a kid managed to knock his booster seat off the chair and bang his head on the floor. He'd been being such an obnoxious little asshole earlier, banging, screeeching, fighting, and kicking. No sympathy from anybody, just a feeling of maybe there is some justice in the world after all. Nobody enjoys an obnoxious kid.

You're rejoicing that a small child banged his head on the floor.

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Anonymous wrote:Last month, I was at a restaurant when a kid managed to knock his booster seat off the chair and bang his head on the floor. He'd been being such an obnoxious little asshole earlier, banging, screeeching, fighting, and kicking. No sympathy from anybody, just a feeling of maybe there is some justice in the world after all. Nobody enjoys an obnoxious kid.

You're rejoicing that a small child banged his head on the floor.

god, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Note to self: before hiring a lawyer, ask if they have ever threatened litigation or counter-litigation on DCUM. And if they have, go find somebody else.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

Court is a threat to serious litigators who know exactly what happens in court. Unlike you, litigators avoid courts because they know the ramifications. If you already can't control your child, how are you going to run a side lawsuit?

Yawn. Go tell your fairytales elsewhere. I am a litigator and one more lawsuit doesn't make a difference to me. The ramifications of court for one with a strong case, know-how, and zero legal fees are minimal. You, on the other hand, don't know if you should scratch your watch or wind your butt.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you people eating that you're so frequently disrupted by unruly children? I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I've considered talking to the parents of an insane child, and we eat out at least twice per week.

The frequency of this happening is irrelevant to the discussion.

Dafuq?

You all are acting seriously aggrieved and talking about "my important time and money is disturbed!"

I think many people just need to lighten up. If it wasn't this, you'd get your jollies complaining about something else.

So you're one of those people who let their kids run around restaurants?

I don't have kids.

So you have no idea what it's like to pay $300 for a nice dinner out, plus pay a sitter, only to have someone's children diminish your experience, all the while you are trying to get a 3 hour break from your own kids.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

Ah I see. You spend too little time with your children to be able to discipline them effectively, so your go to option is to slap adult strangers. Way to go.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are you people eating that you're so frequently disrupted by unruly children? I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I've considered talking to the parents of an insane child, and we eat out at least twice per week.

The frequency of this happening is irrelevant to the discussion.

Dafuq?

You all are acting seriously aggrieved and talking about "my important time and money is disturbed!"

I think many people just need to lighten up. If it wasn't this, you'd get your jollies complaining about something else.

So you're one of those people who let their kids run around restaurants?

I don't have kids.

So you have no idea what it's like to pay $300 for a nice dinner out, plus pay a sitter, only to have someone's children diminish your experience, all the while you are trying to get a 3 hour break from your own kids.

This happens to you often?

Doubtful. I've never seen a kid at Marcel's at 830 on a Saturday.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

I can't tell your race or ethnicity, but I can tell from this that you are lower middle class or working class. This is not middle class or upper middle class behavior.

Don't quit your day job, honey. I'm a lawyer from an upper middle class background who will not hesitate to defend my child from a rapidly approaching lunatic. Some of you will find yourselves floored with a jab one of these days.

No you misunderstand. You are from the lower class regardless of your income or education because you jab strangers who approach you when you are ineffectively disciplining your child.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

I'm a lawyer too asshole and you slapping me is more actionable than whatever you think constituted "assault." I would have zero legal fees.