Why do you let your kid run around at a restaurant?

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Could you elaborate on this? Was their physical contact? Were they just yelling?

No, I don't do that DCUM thing where you pepper me with questions and misconstrue the responses as I offer more and more information to defend myself. Bye.

Thanks. I got all the information I needed from your response.

Glad I could help. Feel free not to come back if you need additional assistance.

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking I may actually like you in real life.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Could you elaborate on this? Was their physical contact? Were they just yelling?

No, I don't do that DCUM thing where you pepper me with questions and misconstrue the responses as I offer more and more information to defend myself. Bye.

Thanks. I got all the information I needed from your response.

Glad I could help. Feel free not to come back if you need additional assistance.

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking I may actually like you in real life.

Right? I really want to hear the story! Not to criticize but possibly emulate. I was once outside a restaurant with my child (years ago) after she misbehaved, and she was in these really heavy lined pants and this woman came up to me SCREAMING that it's too cold for her to be outside sitting on the ground. I seriously wanted to slap her but instead, after going back inside, stared her down for her entire meal, never taking my eyes off her. Drove her nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have young children stay home or go to Mc Donalds - but this is just wishful thinking I know.

But don't let your kid run the aisles at McDonald's either.

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To those of you who let your kids run around restaurants are you worried about your kid getting injured?

A server trips on them and they end up with a broken bone, laceration or burn?

Or do you just plan to sue if that happens?

Are you not worried they could injure someone else?

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

I can't tell your race or ethnicity, but I can tell from this that you are lower middle class or working class. This is not middle class or upper middle class behavior.

Don't quit your day job, honey. I'm a lawyer from an upper middle class background who will not hesitate to defend my child from a rapidly approaching lunatic. Some of you will find yourselves floored with a jab one of these days.

How about you love your children enough to teach them appropriate behavior.

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When we were young and thought the whole world revolved around our toddler firstborn, we let him run around casual restaurants. He would go up to other tables and smile and wave, but we stopped when we realized he was hindering the wait staff, and perhaps bothering other people, despite the fact everyone smiled back at him.

We never let our second do the same, since we learned our lesson with the first.

However, I have to admit that when a darling little child sidles up to our table and gives us a smile wreathed in ketchup, I melt

Good of you to admit that. Of course he was bothering people; you don't think smiles mean he wasn't?

PP you were responding to - not at first, I was so happy people thought he was cute! I am not from this country and this two-faced American way is at odds with the more direct dealings of my native country.

But now I know!

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Anonymous wrote:My child has a free spirit and I wouldn't want to offend him by limiting it.

Don't try to sue the restaurant when scalding coffee is spilled on her.

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When we were young and thought the whole world revolved around our toddler firstborn, we let him run around casual restaurants. He would go up to other tables and smile and wave, but we stopped when we realized he was hindering the wait staff, and perhaps bothering other people, despite the fact everyone smiled back at him.

We never let our second do the same, since we learned our lesson with the first.

However, I have to admit that when a darling little child sidles up to our table and gives us a smile wreathed in ketchup, I melt

Good of you to admit that. Of course he was bothering people; you don't think smiles mean he wasn't?

PP you were responding to - not at first, I was so happy people thought he was cute! I am not from this country and this two-faced American way is at odds with the more direct dealings of my native country.

But now I know!

You being self-absorbed has nothing to do with your country of origin.

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When we were young and thought the whole world revolved around our toddler firstborn, we let him run around casual restaurants. He would go up to other tables and smile and wave, but we stopped when we realized he was hindering the wait staff, and perhaps bothering other people, despite the fact everyone smiled back at him.

We never let our second do the same, since we learned our lesson with the first.

However, I have to admit that when a darling little child sidles up to our table and gives us a smile wreathed in ketchup, I melt

Good of you to admit that. Of course he was bothering people; you don't think smiles mean he wasn't?

PP you were responding to - not at first, I was so happy people thought he was cute! I am not from this country and this two-faced American way is at odds with the more direct dealings of my native country.

But now I know!

You being self-absorbed has nothing to do with your country of origin.

Oh of course: I wrote that I was young and thought the world revolved around my kid. I accept all your criticism!

And I have warm feelings for little kids running around me in public places! Just because I started teaching my kids not to do this, it doesn't mean I resent others letting their kids run around. They're all so cute and joyful! I don't get this frustration some of you are feeling. None of this is a big deal. Enjoy your life.

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NP. I have a 2 year old and 4 year old boys who love to run and climb and generally be boys and everyone everywhere stops to stare and tell us how gorgeous they are... and I'd never let them run around at a restaurant. I think it's totally obnoxious. And also a safety issue for my kids, other customers and the staff, as a PP said. It's amazes me that anyone would think it's okay.

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Anonymous wrote:Not surprised this devolved into another round of "Bash the SN mom." Always DCUM's favorite stress reliever.

Come on down off your high horse before you get hurt. It isn't bashing a SN mom. It is a bashing a mom who refuses to take any number of reasonable steps (including standing up to her inlaws) to avoid creating a danger and disturbance in restaurants. And she, or others, have openly said she will do what is easiest for her and to hell with others.

Nor is this really a SN issue. There are plenty of NT kids who are difficult in restaurants and I would expect parents to take the same sort of remedial steps to make sure their kid isn't doing wind sprints through a restaurant. It sucks when I have to pick up and leave if one of my kids is causing a danger or a disturbance, but I do it because I don't think the world revolves around me or my kid and I don't always get to do what is more convenient for me.

This kid isn't SN and the mother is not being bashed. Her child has a mild behavioral issue. The mom knows it and knows how to control her child. She simply finds it trying to bring the child to restaurants and spend her time trying to control him. She has a legitimate issue with her ILs insisting that the child come to family dinners. If her husband cannot explain his child's condition to her parents, his wife can. She can excuse herself from these family dinners and stay at home with her child while her husband attends to dinners. I think the poster is being very considerate of others in the restaurants by taking her child outside, but why should she be forced to do that for a photo op with the child's grandparents. Surely, there are other ways to interact with their grandchild. OP, I will you patience and serenity.

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Anonymous wrote:The sanctimonious chicks in this thread make me want my kid to run around just to make their angry heads explode. Maybe I'll bring my dog. He is wild.

Can't train a dog, can't train a child. You sound like a real peach.

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Anonymous wrote:If this is the only burning issue in your life, you are blessed. I grew up with only mashed potatoes to eat once a day for many years in my childhood. Now I'm thankful to have three meals a day and I can afford to eat at Komi everyday if I need to. So calm down ladies. Be glad you can afford to have a meal at a restaurant whether with raging kids or without.

No, sorry, do you work for the money that feeds you? I do, I'm not a SAHM, and I am not going to spend my money on an evening out and just suck up misbehavior by other diners.

Okay. I'm a neuroscientist if that counts.

Funny that your brain developed at all eating only mashed potatoes.

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Anonymous wrote:Tea doesn't grow in trees! Duh!

But then where does tea trea oil come from?

ARGH! Tea TREE!

There is no such thing as tea tree silly! Show me if you can. Duh!

Hmmmmm.... actually where does tea come from? No seriously from where?

Tea -- the tea we drink -- comes from a shrub/small tree, Camellia sinensis.

Thanks to this poster, and the previous tea tree poster, for this interlude of sanity and good information.

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So people who have no apparent disabilities, and are paying customers, get no consideration in your view?

Which needs are being accommodated here?

All of this talk of rights and entitlements is absurd anyway. We're talking about going out to eat at a restaurant. Customers who bring children, please try to be considerate of the other customers. Other customers, please be tolerant of parents who are probably doing what they can -- and if they're not, please recognize that this is one meal at one restaurant, not a matter of life and death.

The problem is that some customers with children are considerate of only themselves and their families.

Yes, some people (with children, or without children) are inconsiderate. This is a thing you have to deal with when you go out in public. How you deal with it is up to you.

Now, I figure that I will try to be considerate of other people, whether or not they seem to be considerate of me, and I hope that they will be considerate of me, even when I am inadvertently inconsiderate of them. It's a mutual thing. But other people have other opinions.

So what do you do when other people are being inconsiderate of you, inadvertently or deliberately?

I try to move on, instead of fixating on it. I also remind myself that everybody has hard days, and maybe this is one of them, and that they're likely not being inconsiderate at me personally, and that their behavior is not under my control, but my behavior is.

Translated, that means you are a doormat and would allow a 6 year old child to continue to disrupt your restaurant meal. Do you think you are not allowed to have nice things, or that you have no control over what happens to you?

NP. You are an aggressive nutjob.

Those of you talking about tripping kids and accosting parents have not met the right parents. The last person who approached my kid aggressively while I was trying to address my kid's misbehavior got slapped. No kidding.

Sue you for battery so fast your pretty little head would spin.

I'm a lawyer and I would sue you for assault of my child in response and then drag out the lawsuit to spend down your assets and increase your legal fees. This town is full of lawyers. Court isn't a threat to most people here.

Court is a threat to serious litigators who know exactly what happens in court. Unlike you, litigators avoid courts because they know the ramifications. If you already can't control your child, how are you going to run a side lawsuit?