Worked my butt off in the PTA and my son is in a "weaker" classroom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

give it up already lady.

SHe's probably a liberal who demands people be accepting of others who are not quite like them. But don't expect her to. SHe's a special snowflake.

If you are typing that from your GS 9 school zone, you can shut the f@ck up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many hours does a super involved parent spend on PTA?

Seems it might be wiser to just get a part-time job and dedicate that income to sending the kid to private. College-educated woman could get a part time job paying $20,000 a year no sweat.

Yes. I wish I could say this to the mean PTA moms who lurk in our school. Some of them do "work" at least part time hours with us! Can I just tell you how much time it takes to make up stupid busy work tasks for them? Or how my heart sinks every time I am compelled to attend one of their stupid events during my prep time or in the afternoon when I'm exhausted after a long day of (real) work? Many of them are very condescending to teachers, in addition to being bitches who gossip about other people's kids. I find it shocking that these women really believe they are contributing something important . I've worked at 4 schools in various places in my career, and it has been the same everywhere.

OK, I'm going to have to stay off this thread. It is not good for me to start the new school year already angry at these women.

But I fantasize about punching at least two of the PTA moms in the face: each of them has spread hideous gossip about vulnerable kids.

You sound really horrible.

And you sound like the sort of mom who "volunteers" to spy on kids so that you can spread malicious gossip about which kids are "bad" or "slow" or have special needs. Because the important thing is that those moms be allowed to "help" and feel important, right?

Guess again.

There's no "guessing" about the fact you think a teacher who resents mean, gossipy moms who spread private info about other people's kids is "horrible." And to me, that makes you horrible.

Your little PTA "job" is not important or essential. You will feel better about yourself if you get a real job.

You make a lot of incorrect assumptions. It's slightly comical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

give it up already lady.

SHe's probably a liberal who demands people be accepting of others who are not quite like them. But don't expect her to. SHe's a special snowflake.

No, most of the town liberals go to GS9-10s, I send my kid to our local school

[Anonymous]

1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

Or buy a lesser house in a more expensive area. That's what everyone else does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:guess what people?
You can't outsource all of you child's needs and expect the best outcome. I'm terribly sorry that some families can not afford a parent to stay home. To those who are choosing their personal satisfaction over their children's well being... that's just something you can work out with your therapist. Don't get pissy with the involved parents. You made your choice.

I love this post. Not being a helicopter parent who tries to mirco-manage his DC's elementary school experience is "outsourcing all of your child's needs?" That's hilarious.

And all us evil working parents will have to work through our guilt with therapists? My conscience is clear. My having a job (and the income that comes with it) not to mention being a role model for my daughter isn't choosing my "personal satisfaction over [my] children's well being." My daughter does't need or want me hovering in her classroom and it certainly doesn't negatively affect her well being.

I am plenty involved in her life and school work (and school when intervention is actually needed) without being the PTA mom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

I don't think this is entirely true since I work and volunteer. But I don't do it because I care more about my kids. I just don't want to be a mooch, taking the benefits and not giving back myself when my kids benefit. I wish I didn't feel this way and volunteered less.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

I don't think this is entirely true since I work and volunteer. But I don't do it because I care more about my kids. I just don't want to be a mooch, taking the benefits and not giving back myself when my kids benefit. I wish I didn't feel this way and volunteered less.

I don't consider myself a mooch if I don't volunteer for the PTA. Public school is not a co-op. My taxes are my contribution. That doesn't mean I won't donate to the PTA or that I might volunteer for a particular discrete task (e.g., field trip) if I or my son would like me to do so. But I don't feel any sense of compulsion to do so.

[Anonymous]

I can't volunteer at my kids' school because during school hours I am at another school where I teach other people's kids. Clearly, this means I care less about education than the PTA moms sorting tshirt order forms.

I suppose I shall simply have to expect the possibly inferior classroom assignments my children will receive as punishment. This also works out because since I am not at their school all day, I have not fully cultivated a list of enemy students from whom I would like them to be kept away from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't volunteer at my kids' school because during school hours I am at another school where I teach other people's kids. Clearly, this means I care less about education than the PTA moms sorting tshirt order forms.

I suppose I shall simply have to expect the possibly inferior classroom assignments my children will receive as punishment. This also works out because since I am not at their school all day, I have not fully cultivated a list of enemy students from whom I would like them to be kept away from.

I'm sure your child has noticed that you aren't there.
PSA working parents: you kids notice that their own parents are never volunteering.

I'm sorry if it isn't possible for your family to get by on 1 income ( or you are a single parent). Sadly your kids get the message one way or that other. You find the time or you don't, but there is a consequence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

You are one of the leeches who want things for free, don't you? Most of the PTA moms in our school are working moms. You are seriously out of touch and most probably a terrible parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

You are one of the leeches who want things for free, don't you? Most of the PTA moms in our school are working moms. You are seriously out of touch and most probably a terrible parent.

suck it PTA mom. you'll get my check for $200 and nothing else. Too bad you have nothing else giving you meaning in your life other than being a miserable busy body who is such a helicopter she can't trust her kid to get through 3rd grade without incessant hovering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. As a full-time working mom who would never have the time to put in the volunteering you did, I'm glad to see PTA involvement doesn't have a bearing on classroom assignment.

2. Aside from the physically aggressive kid being in your kid's class, I feel like you don't have a grievance here. Your kid is in a public school; if you want there to be no kids with learning disabilities or other academic issues with your kid, send your kid to a private school. Otherwise, deal with it.

No, PTA involvement does not have a bearing on classroom assignment. Being a parent who is working for the whole school (either as a volunteer or as a participant) however does send the signal to the teachers that you are an involved partner in your students education. That is a positive thing and it does build up a good working relationship with the school. If you are doing this just to jockey for favors at the school it becomes very evident to the teachers. No one likes those kind of parents. Not even the hardworking PTA parents!

News flash: working moms care just as much about their kids' education and school. We just have these things called jobs that prevent us from doing the important educational stuff like quartering the muffins for Muffins With Mom and running book fair checkout. PTA moms don't care more than we do, they just have more free time.

I'm a SAHM but I saw plenty of working parents volunteering in the school. My husband was working and going to night school but he was able to volunteer. I'm pretty sure that some of the PTA/booster chairs and room parents were working parents. Lots of the activities like the fall festival, silent auction, etc take place during evening/after school hours.