Worked my butt off in the PTA and my son is in a "weaker" classroom

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I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

give it up already lady.

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Anonymous wrote:I learned that volunteering doesn't get you special treatment unless you push yourself on teachers. I will never be *that* person. Our PTO president gets in teacher's faces all day and I bet they hate her.

You are stupid, the PTA helps teachers the most

With what?

25 year veteran teacher trying to think of a time when I've gotten meaningful help from the PTA/HSA.

I am sorry about your experience. I am a parent and at our school the pta reimbursed some of the classroom supplies, bought headphones for the kids, gave t shirts to teachers, organized lunches and coffees for teachers.

You think that some Tshirts and coffee is the most help we get?

I think that fundraising for things like headphones is fine. I'm grateful for classroom supplies. But none of those things require a presence in the classroom. T shirts, lunches and coffees I could care less about.

I don't get fundraising for headphones. We have to provide them for our kids. So, maybe to supply for kids whose parents didn't get them. I wish teachers would regularly send out a list of supplies they need. Ours didn't and I had to guess what to send in. Only a few times would she answer. I'd rather ask a teacher what they need. The lunches I've volunteered at are lousy. One person picks what is easy for them that they like without any regard to the teachers requests and most of it goes uneaten and the PTA folks take it home to eat.

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Well for some reason it was a big thing, many teachers asked for the school t shirts.
Headphones: our school is 65% farms, are you kidding me, parents sending in the headphones?!

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

You become more despicable every time you post. Sorry these vulnerable kids are ruining your elementary school experience. Good god, get a life. Get your whole ass adult self out of the kids school if the kids cause you this much angst.

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Anonymous wrote:I learned that volunteering doesn't get you special treatment unless you push yourself on teachers. I will never be *that* person. Our PTO president gets in teacher's faces all day and I bet they hate her.

You are stupid, the PTA helps teachers the most

With what?

25 year veteran teacher trying to think of a time when I've gotten meaningful help from the PTA/HSA.

I am sorry about your experience. I am a parent and at our school the pta reimbursed some of the classroom supplies, bought headphones for the kids, gave t shirts to teachers, organized lunches and coffees for teachers.

You think that some Tshirts and coffee is the most help we get?

I think that fundraising for things like headphones is fine. I'm grateful for classroom supplies. But none of those things require a presence in the classroom. T shirts, lunches and coffees I could care less about.

I don't get fundraising for headphones. We have to provide them for our kids. So, maybe to supply for kids whose parents didn't get them. I wish teachers would regularly send out a list of supplies they need. Ours didn't and I had to guess what to send in. Only a few times would she answer. I'd rather ask a teacher what they need. The lunches I've volunteered at are lousy. One person picks what is easy for them that they like without any regard to the teachers requests and most of it goes uneaten and the PTA folks take it home to eat.

One time the volunteers gave their children's classroom teachers a menu from a popular local restaurant with the instructions to pick something that they liked and we would deliver it to them for lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

You become more despicable every time you post. Sorry these vulnerable kids are ruining your elementary school experience. Good god, get a life. Get your whole ass adult self out of the kids school if the kids cause you this much angst.

This sounds harsh but, Op, I can't say that I disagree with PP.

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OP sounds like an ass. I'm a NP to this thread and should maybe start a different thread with my own question, but it's semi-related, so I'll ask here: I requested that my kid not be placed in a classroom with one specific child this year. I gave what I thought was a very legitimate reason for the request but the school didn't honor it and the kids ended up in the same class. There are more than three classes in this grade level, if that matters. I don't want into detail about my reasons to protect everyone's privacy and because I suspect there are people from the school who read this board. Anyway, I'm trying to stay positive and from what I can tell, overall it's a great class with an excellent teacher and good mix of kids. However, it bothers me that the school didn't take my concern seriously and I'm wondering if I have any recourse if things go badly between my kid and the other one? My kid is in early elementary and I've never dealt with this before.

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Np,
Op, don't listen to all the bitches on this thread. These aholes move heaven and earth to be certain their precious little pumpkins don't have to attend school with the unwashed masses. You are just trying to make a lesser school work. It's no different.
Oh and another thing...
There is definitely a benefit to being a sahm volunteering at school. Yes, their children get a benefit that others don't. I understand that not every family has that option, but it's just the way it is.

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Anonymous wrote:OP sounds like an ass. I'm a NP to this thread and should maybe start a different thread with my own question, but it's semi-related, so I'll ask here: I requested that my kid not be placed in a classroom with one specific child this year. I gave what I thought was a very legitimate reason for the request but the school didn't honor it and the kids ended up in the same class. There are more than three classes in this grade level, if that matters. I don't want into detail about my reasons to protect everyone's privacy and because I suspect there are people from the school who read this board. Anyway, I'm trying to stay positive and from what I can tell, overall it's a great class with an excellent teacher and good mix of kids. However, it bothers me that the school didn't take my concern seriously and I'm wondering if I have any recourse if things go badly between my kid and the other one? My kid is in early elementary and I've never dealt with this before.

You don't know that they didn't take it seriously, you only know that they didn't grant it. And you don't know why. Maybe you thought the reason was legitimate, but they didn't. Maybe they thought both your kid and this other kid would benefit from the same teacher. If there are actual problems between the kids, then you can always talk to the administration again.

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Anonymous wrote:OP sounds like an ass. I'm a NP to this thread and should maybe start a different thread with my own question, but it's semi-related, so I'll ask here: I requested that my kid not be placed in a classroom with one specific child this year. I gave what I thought was a very legitimate reason for the request but the school didn't honor it and the kids ended up in the same class. There are more than three classes in this grade level, if that matters. I don't want into detail about my reasons to protect everyone's privacy and because I suspect there are people from the school who read this board. Anyway, I'm trying to stay positive and from what I can tell, overall it's a great class with an excellent teacher and good mix of kids. However, it bothers me that the school didn't take my concern seriously and I'm wondering if I have any recourse if things go badly between my kid and the other one? My kid is in early elementary and I've never dealt with this before.

Like a PP said, this may have been the best solution to any number of other issues, or they may have decided that both kids really would benefit from that teacher.
In any case, I think it's totally legit to approach the teacher and let her know that Johnny and Joey have a history and outline your concerns and ask her to keep an eye on them. And then hope for the best!

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Anonymous wrote:OP sounds like an ass. I'm a NP to this thread and should maybe start a different thread with my own question, but it's semi-related, so I'll ask here: I requested that my kid not be placed in a classroom with one specific child this year. I gave what I thought was a very legitimate reason for the request but the school didn't honor it and the kids ended up in the same class. There are more than three classes in this grade level, if that matters. I don't want into detail about my reasons to protect everyone's privacy and because I suspect there are people from the school who read this board. Anyway, I'm trying to stay positive and from what I can tell, overall it's a great class with an excellent teacher and good mix of kids. However, it bothers me that the school didn't take my concern seriously and I'm wondering if I have any recourse if things go badly between my kid and the other one? My kid is in early elementary and I've never dealt with this before.

My friend had to pull kids from the school after the new principal did nothing about separating her kid and another one. Things got bad, luckily, the district agreed to transfer without problems.

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Anonymous wrote:How many hours does a super involved parent spend on PTA?

Seems it might be wiser to just get a part-time job and dedicate that income to sending the kid to private. College-educated woman could get a part time job paying $20,000 a year no sweat.

Yes. I wish I could say this to the mean PTA moms who lurk in our school. Some of them do "work" at least part time hours with us! Can I just tell you how much time it takes to make up stupid busy work tasks for them? Or how my heart sinks every time I am compelled to attend one of their stupid events during my prep time or in the afternoon when I'm exhausted after a long day of (real) work? Many of them are very condescending to teachers, in addition to being bitches who gossip about other people's kids. I find it shocking that these women really believe they are contributing something important . I've worked at 4 schools in various places in my career, and it has been the same everywhere.

OK, I'm going to have to stay off this thread. It is not good for me to start the new school year already angry at these women.

But I fantasize about punching at least two of the PTA moms in the face: each of them has spread hideous gossip about vulnerable kids.

You sound really horrible.

And you sound like the sort of mom who "volunteers" to spy on kids so that you can spread malicious gossip about which kids are "bad" or "slow" or have special needs. Because the important thing is that those moms be allowed to "help" and feel important, right?

Guess again.

There's no "guessing" about the fact you think a teacher who resents mean, gossipy moms who spread private info about other people's kids is "horrible." And to me, that makes you horrible.

Your little PTA "job" is not important or essential. You will feel better about yourself if you get a real job.

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guess what people?
You can't outsource all of you child's needs and expect the best outcome. I'm terribly sorry that some families can not afford a parent to stay home. To those who are choosing their personal satisfaction over their children's well being... that's just something you can work out with your therapist. Don't get pissy with the involved parents. You made your choice.

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Anonymous wrote:I am the OP. I NEVER discuss kids with anyone at school. but I do try to have my child separated from at least some of the "vulnerable" kids precisely because they take out their vulnerability on others. Of course I use all those polite phrases like "I am not sure my child gets along well with so and so". Of course it is not possible to avoid all the vulnerable kids, which I am ok with. But this year our classroom seems to have a disproportionate number. But- I am very happy with the teachers. And that's what matters.

give it up already lady.

SHe's probably a liberal who demands people be accepting of others who are not quite like them. But don't expect her to. SHe's a special snowflake.