School residency cheaters investigated

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Anonymous wrote:Part 2: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/

Damn. They blew up that lady's life.

How do you figure?

I think the information about her tax lien and bankruptcy was not necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Part 2: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/05/rampant-fraud-means-even-govt-contractors-can-illegally-send-kids-to-dc-schools/

Damn. They blew up that lady's life.

How do you figure?

I think the information about her tax lien and bankruptcy was not necessary.

Shows a culture of cheating , not paying bills and working for tax funded positions. Fraud waste and abuse

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I'd fear for my safety if I were the person confronting/stalking these people.

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Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

In terms of families with young children, yes.

That is not true. Next, you will write that you know every family in the L-T boundary

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At a HRCS several years ago there were a number of MD families and one from northern Virginia. And not "complicated family situations" or divorced parents with joint custody (although there were a number of those situations as well).

These people used a relative's address or a work address or the address of another property that they owned in D.C. while living outside of D.C. It always made me mad but I MYOB so I didn't say anything. The kids were sweet, the families were nice and so I didn't say anything. Several worked at the school, which meant that they were either defrauding the IRS by paying taxes in a different jurisdiction than the one in which they actually lived, or the school administration had their real address.

I do know that now it's different and they are much stricter about residency documents.

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Anonymous wrote:the article is infuriating and the only race card is the one being played by central office or by black principals who don't want to see their schools gentrified. every tax payer should be disgusted by this.

Are people posting on this thread who don't actually live in DC? Trolls abound.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! Really? You had to put the black families in the projects, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

In terms of families with young children, yes.

where the hell are you pulling that out of? there are plenty of african american families in those census tracts, the housing project for starters. plus as other posters have noted, past PK it is the white parents' decision not to enroll so the mythical MD families have nothing to do with it.

No, I think the PP had to just prove that the PPP was out right lying, so she used an obvious example to prove that the boundary wasn't 100% white as the liar wrote.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! Really? You had to put the black families in the projects, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:I am extremely skeptical about the quality and motivation of Daily Caller investigative reporting, but I have to say, it does sound like a pretty severe problem and like they did actual (appropriate) reporting. It's not "stalking". But I'm not sure about the quality of the reporting. For example, how they describe L-T as

"in a mostly white neighborhood along a commuter route that runs from Prince George’s County to federal buildings downtown.

The school is almost entirely black and government statistics indicate that few of the students live in the neighborhood. Poor test scores have left neighborhood parents feeling they can’t use their own school, and must pay for private education or enroll their children in a more distant public school."

I don't think that accurately represents the L-T demographics, the current reputation of L-T, or the legitimate OOB system. It also seems to be trying to drive a pretty ugly racial/class wedge.

What's the commuter route from MD to L-T? The neighborhood demographics of L-T is not predominantly white. What am I missing in this awful reporting. There are so many lies or misinformation, such as in-state tuition to any state school, one has to wonder what the blogger got right.

Ward 6 was of 2010, 49% white, 41% black (it was majority black in 2000). The trend continues as Home values near LT start at 500k.

If you ever came over to the Hill on a weekday morning, you would notice the large volume of MD plated cars speeding through on MD Ave., PA Ave., C & H Streets, coming from Route 50, NY Abe, Bladensberg, 295, etc.

These parts of the article are absolutely true.

The article states that the area is all white, and the Black kids are all from Maryland. So where should the 41% of the Black kids attend school. And what's stopping the 49% of white kids from attending their inbound school. The author basically stated that white folks can't send their kids to school with all those black kids. The horror.

You are perhaps unaware that there is a significant difference in demographics between all of ward 6 and the people who live IB for LT.

You think LT's boundaries are 100% white?

In terms of families with young children, yes.

where the hell are you pulling that out of? there are plenty of african american families in those census tracts, the housing project for starters. plus as other posters have noted, past PK it is the white parents' decision not to enroll so the mythical MD families have nothing to do with it.

What housing projects are IB for L-T? I live here and I can't think of any.

Capitol Hill Towers

FWIW, you don't have to live in housing projects to be of African, or AA descent. The imposition is wildly offensive. When you see me at school in Sept, leer at me and my son, we live inbounds.

Well you are going to have to prove to these race haters that you don't live in MD, because they think that in-bound AA are a unicorn.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd fear for my safety if I were the person confronting/stalking these people.

They should award Therese courageous reporters a medal and security detail

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But I wonder if a parent with weekend custody in D.C. can enroll a kid in D.C.?

As long as the custody is joint custody, DC does not discriminate.

That is an area that can be addressed. Must have weekday/majority custody for residency. Back when I reviewed tons of custody cases parents would fight over what percentage of money would have to be paid based on % of time spent and primary domicile.

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Once you have a license plate number you can get the name the car is registered to.

Once you have the address the publicly available tax records will tell you who pays the taxes on the property.

If those match you are onto something. Then a review of DC property tax for that name (or either name if they don't match) will give you more info.

It isn't that hard to do even as a faux investigative reporter.

Exactly! I was irritated when I first discovered I needed a name + a license plate. Basically if the child is not in need of FARMS, then the only thing to verify residency should be the tax information from your paystub. If the taxes is going to D.C. then end of story.

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These pieces are a little much, but I hope they shame the Post into actually covering education issues in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Question: can't issues of residency be solved by cross-checking other government databases? For example, why doesn't DCPS cross-check the homestead tax exemption and property tax records? And DC taxes?

Wouldn't this type of cross checking go a long way to establishing residency in most circumstances?

That would be too logical. There is simply little poltical will to deal with this problem.

My child's school is one of the ones mentioned in the article. I know of 3 kids in his class who live in MD. They have their birthday parties in pg county, parents drive cars with MD plates, have md phone numbers, etc. They've been at the school for 5 years. There's just no desire by administraton to deal with this.

Exactly! Look at the taxes. This is not too difficult, there is internet and public records all within the government's possession. If not FARMS, then the only proof allowed should be the pay stub with taxes that are directed to D.C.

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud is a huge problem in DC schools, and anyone who says otherwise has his head in the sand. It's a shame that the race-baiting Daily Caller is the outlet that decided to take this on. I am all in favor of cracking down on cheaters, but these articles are really gross.

Disagree, and we've been in DCPS schools for a long time. Residency fraud isn't a huge problem - that's an urban myth. Arguably, it's not a problem at all. We know a number of "cheaters" (mostly AA or mixed race) who make four-figure PTA contributions per child per year. THey knock themselves out to help schools struggling to retain high SES neighborhood families in the upper grades.

But widespread use of DC schools by MD residents who don't pay DC taxes or live in the District is a real problem. Good for the Daily Caller for calling attention to it. Wish OSSE was given far more resources and incentives to go at them, hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud is a huge problem in DC schools, and anyone who says otherwise has his head in the sand. It's a shame that the race-baiting Daily Caller is the outlet that decided to take this on. I am all in favor of cracking down on cheaters, but these articles are really gross.

Disagree, and we've been in DCPS schools for a long time. Residency fraud isn't a huge problem - that's an urban myth. Arguably, it's not a problem at all. We know a number of "cheaters" (mostly AA or mixed race) who make four-figure PTA contributions per child per year. THey knock themselves out to help schools struggling to retain high SES neighborhood families in the upper grades.

But widespread use of DC schools by MD residents who don't pay DC taxes or live in the District is a real problem. Good for the Daily Caller for calling attention to it. Wish OSSE was given far more resources and incentives to go at them, hard.


That *is* residency fraud. Maybe what you mean in the prior paragraph is boundary fraud.