NYT article on easing academic pressure and a cultural divide

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Depends on what you call merit.

For many, merit is solely defined by SAT scores and inflated grade point averages...a rather low academic and intellectual bar for the university!

Who are the dumbass "many" who think "SAT scores and inflated grade point averages" will get the into HYPS? Most people who know even a little about admissions know it takes more.

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Spelling bees do not involve a lot of critical, analytical, or creative thinking. Yes, you can analyze the roots of words and group them together in various ways, but the main skill used is memorization.

Memory is vital to intellectual power and creativity. Without the power of memory one is simply a neurophysiological dunce.

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What I don't understand is cutting out advanced math until 6th grade in the article. If some parents don't want their darling "pressured" don't they have the option to opt out?!? The school system got rid of a program that was 90% Asian when it sounds like the people who were utilizing it, wanted it.

Taking college courses for advanced credit is voluntary. But they got rid of that too.

Crazy.

If your competitor/antagonist/immigrant is getting ahead of you simply reach up and pull them back down. Oldest trick in the book.

[Anonymous]

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Spelling bees do not involve a lot of critical, analytical, or creative thinking. Yes, you can analyze the roots of words and group them together in various ways, but the main skill used is memorization.

Memory is vital to intellectual power and creativity. Without the power of memory one is simply a neurophysiological dunce.

+1. Good working memory is essential to be good in mathematics, music, physics, etc.... And spelling bees.

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Depends on what you call merit.

For many, merit is solely defined by SAT scores and inflated grade point averages...a rather low academic and intellectual bar for the university!

Who are the dumbass "many" who think "SAT scores and inflated grade point averages" will get the into HYPS? Most people who know even a little about admissions know it takes more.

The reflections surround you, folk claiming others took their seat at HYPS because darling's SAT score was 27 points higher or her GPA was 0.387542 points higher than the lucky one (minus 95 % confidence intervals). Maybe, the Supreme Court cases based solely on SAT and GPA scores will suffice for you.

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+1

There is a reason why a fool like Trump has such a solid, silent following in America. He promises to build the tallest impenetrable wall around America and restore America to it's former greatness, restore the status quo with the white 6 percent of the global population once again consuming 40 percent of global resources!

[Anonymous]

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Depends on what you call merit.

For many, merit is solely defined by SAT scores and inflated grade point averages...a rather low academic and intellectual bar for the university!

Who are the dumbass "many" who think "SAT scores and inflated grade point averages" will get the into HYPS? Most people who know even a little about admissions know it takes more.

The reflections surround you, folk claiming others took their seat at HYPS because darling's SAT score was 27 points higher or her GPA was 0.387542 points higher than the lucky one (minus 95 % confidence intervals). Maybe, the Supreme Court cases based solely on SAT and GPA scores will suffice for you.

The only person who has said anything remotely like this about admissions to HYPS on this thread is you

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Anonymous wrote:I'm Asian, and I don't like the uber competitiveness and stress that some of these kids are going through. Having stated that, I do find it curious that many white parents are now complaining about this type of competitive culture that Asian American kids bring to the table, but all was ok when the wealthier white kids were able to succeed, but the poorer kids (mostly minorities) couldn't keep up. This reminds me a bit of the recent article about how the public wants to treat drug addicts differently now that it's affecting more affluent white kids.

Ding Ding Ding.

I'm the poster who grew up in this district. Had one Asian American classmate who committed suicide when he got a B on his report card(this was in high school). Not clear from the article the ethnicity of the kid who drew a cartoon of his parent telling him getting an A instead of A plus on a calculus test was a "disgrace" but don't think it is correct that the pressure cooker atmosphere only negatively affects white kids. This school district is affluent and has never had an issue with disadvantaged kids being hurt by community standa dis being too high. Nice attempt to try to avoid the real issues though.

I'm the PPP. I'm not talking about just this one area, but in general. It's human nature to feel threatened when you hold all the cards and now are threatened. This is how the WASPS felt when Jews started to increase their numbers in the Ivies. What did the WASPS do? They decided to change the admission criteria to weed more of the Jews out.

You have to be living under a rock to think that lower income kids are not disadvantaged compared to the wealthy kids in terms of schooling. We live in a very mixed SES area. A lot if not all of the writing HW, and some in class work, in my kids' ES are done on the computer. I was volunteering one day in my DC's 2nd grade class when they were doing research on the computer. One kid couldn't finish the research so I said something like "You can try to finish it at home if you want." The kid said, "I don't have a computer at home". You don't think this curriculum that required access to a computer affected this kid's ability to keep up in school? And now adays, so much of the standardized tests are on computers. My 2nd grader is pretty good on the computer now... knows where all the letters/numbers are on the keyboard. For kids that don't have computers, it takes them a looong time to type anything. This alone affects their ability to be competitive.

That's sad! In my hometown when I was visiting this fall, I noticed that the public library has great kids' computer kiosks and seemed to function as an after school center for older kids (looked like 2nd grade on up). Too bad DC doesn't have similar.

All DC public libraries have computers for children use only.

Not my branch. Lovely librarians, but they only have one dedicated children's computer that is mainly for preschool type games. And it is a totally different vibe.

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If the school disctrict is 65% asian, couldn't the asian parents just run for the school board and get a majority of seats on it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the school disctrict is 65% asian, couldn't the asian parents just run for the school board and get a majority of seats on it?

Town is still majority but what exactly is the platform, don't take any steps to lessen the pressure on our kids even if they express suicidal thoughts in class work?

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Anonymous wrote:If the school disctrict is 65% asian, couldn't the asian parents just run for the school board and get a majority of seats on it?

Town is still majority but what exactly is the platform, don't take any steps to lessen the pressure on our kids even if they express suicidal thoughts in class work?

Majority white.

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Anonymous wrote:If the school disctrict is 65% asian, couldn't the asian parents just run for the school board and get a majority of seats on it?

Town is still majority but what exactly is the platform, don't take any steps to lessen the pressure on our kids even if they express suicidal thoughts in class work?

Majority white.

The school system could just get help for the kid who expressed suicidal thoughts rather than discontinuing a program that many of the kids who aren't suffering from anxiety, depression, etc. still want to participate in.

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Anonymous wrote:If the school disctrict is 65% asian, couldn't the asian parents just run for the school board and get a majority of seats on it?

Town is still majority but what exactly is the platform, don't take any steps to lessen the pressure on our kids even if they express suicidal thoughts in class work?

Well, yes, it certainly would be possible to run for the school board on that platform, and since very few people actually vote in school board elections, a slate of candidates with that platform might win.