Gun found at Wilson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is terrifying.

I was at Wilson today, and you'll be happy to know that the school is a much more sane place than this thread.

The mood of the kids is good (and they are not walking around afraid of guns, knives, or the alleged daily fights. The administration appears to be fixing some obvious security problems, and thinking through other longer-term items). The desire for public shaming and the blood lust for punishment that shows up on this thread is not the tone that I felt at Wilson - instead, I saw what appeared to be a thoughtful approach to preventing this from happening again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid says that the word at school is that the kid had it "for protection" and is not the type to hurt anyone.
Good story but whetger true or not, there needs to be some serious investigation.
Also, the kids all say that security is a joke, anyone could bring anything anytime. I guess we have proof of that now.

My kid was threatened by some kids who said they had guns a couple of years ago. He refused to report anything, certain there would be retribution. From the details provided this seemed the most prudent course of action, sadly.

This is why I had the same thought as the PP here. No kids there anymore, but glad there is a new principal.

Forgot to say, my DC said they had gun stash off school, but within reach if they wanted to do something while walking to or from school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is terrifying.

I was at Wilson today, and you'll be happy to know that the school is a much more sane place than this thread.

The mood of the kids is good (and they are not walking around afraid of guns, knives, or the alleged daily fights. The administration appears to be fixing some obvious security problems, and thinking through other longer-term items). The desire for public shaming and the blood lust for punishment that shows up on this thread is not the tone that I felt at Wilson - instead, I saw what appeared to be a thoughtful approach to preventing this from happening again.

above PP here---yes, overall I loved Wilson!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll just say again, this is someone's child. Knowing the identity and worrying about punishment is not prevention.

And turning this into a debate about OOB students is disgusting.

This is a school.climate issue and I hope my fellow parents get into a real discussion to make sure Wilson has what it needs so this never happens again.

Ummmmmm, so are the kids who were in the class and building with the kid with the gun. I'm less worried about him than all the kids and their parents who didn't bring a gun to school.

Well if we are less worried about the offender and his punishment - let's stop discussing it and get to the real problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

[Anonymous]

Was near Wilson yesterday afternoon and witnessed two fights. The individuals involved started to disperse when the police came into view. Daily fights, a knife fight, gun, looks like it's private or MOCO for my child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

Not to mention that it is illegal to bring a semiautomatic gun and ammo into school. The school community's Interest in safety trumps (pardon the expression) any quaint interest in preserving the privacy of a "juvenile" who has chosen to commit an adult felony involving the threat of deadly violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is terrifying.

I was at Wilson today, and you'll be happy to know that the school is a much more sane place than this thread.

The mood of the kids is good (and they are not walking around afraid of guns, knives, or the alleged daily fights. The administration appears to be fixing some obvious security problems, and thinking through other longer-term items). The desire for public shaming and the blood lust for punishment that shows up on this thread is not the tone that I felt at Wilson - instead, I saw what appeared to be a thoughtful approach to preventing this from happening again.

It's a relief to hear this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is terrifying.

I was at Wilson today, and you'll be happy to know that the school is a much more sane place than this thread.

The mood of the kids is good (and they are not walking around afraid of guns, knives, or the alleged daily fights. The administration appears to be fixing some obvious security problems, and thinking through other longer-term items). The desire for public shaming and the blood lust for punishment that shows up on this thread is not the tone that I felt at Wilson - instead, I saw what appeared to be a thoughtful approach to preventing this from happening again.

And that approach would be....?

They still have to separate the gun criminal from the Wilson community ASAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think people understand what knives can do. The gun is significant, but so are knife fights. Even fist fights can be fatal. Wake up people. fist fights in the HALL?

How many knives are confiscated as the result of the metal detectors? Is this information ever released?

I would imagine kids have all sorts of hidey holes outside of school--and grab their tools for streetside action. Knives kill. Police should be working with the school to monitor what's happening on the street.

Shouldn't the school and police be able to find them? Tenelytown isn't exactly the South Bronx.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

Not to mention that it is illegal to bring a semiautomatic gun and ammo into school. The school community's Interest in safety trumps (pardon the expression) any quaint interest in preserving the privacy of a "juvenile" who has chosen to commit an adult felony involving the threat of deadly violence.

Regardless of laws or "quaint" notions of privacy, it would be extremely hypocritical for an anonymous poster to post this student's name. Hopefully everyone understands that DCUM is not the proper venue for revealing such information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was near Wilson yesterday afternoon and witnessed two fights. The individuals involved started to disperse when the police came into view. Daily fights, a knife fight, gun, looks like it's private or MOCO for my child.

I'm not sure where you're getting your info about "daily fights" but I have two DC's at Wilson. Collectively they have heard about only two fights since the beginning of the year, on school property. I have a nephew at BCC who reports that he's witnessed three fights there.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

Not to mention that it is illegal to bring a semiautomatic gun and ammo into school. The school community's Interest in safety trumps (pardon the expression) any quaint interest in preserving the privacy of a "juvenile" who has chosen to commit an adult felony involving the threat of deadly violence.

Regardless of laws or "quaint" notions of privacy, it would be extremely hypocritical for an anonymous poster to post this student's name. Hopefully everyone understands that DCUM is not the proper venue for revealing such information.

Agreed, but the school should reveal it as part of its discipline and administrative response to this matter. The criminal judicial process is separate obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

Not to mention that it is illegal to bring a semiautomatic gun and ammo into school. The school community's Interest in safety trumps (pardon the expression) any quaint interest in preserving the privacy of a "juvenile" who has chosen to commit an adult felony involving the threat of deadly violence.

Regardless of laws or "quaint" notions of privacy, it would be extremely hypocritical for an anonymous poster to post this student's name. Hopefully everyone understands that DCUM is not the proper venue for revealing such information.

Agreed, but the school should reveal it as part of its discipline and administrative response to this matter. The criminal judicial process is separate obviously.

PP, what is the matter with you? Why are you so obsessed with this adolescent's name? The Post is reporting that he is being held in juvenile detention. He is not in school and not a threat to the students or teachers at the school. So what is with you? Do you want go over to his house and laugh at his parents or something? Do you have some vigilante justice plan? Do you just keep your own personal board with pictures of juvenile delinquents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is illegal to publicly name a respondent in the DC juvenile justice system. Don't play around with this.

[Sigh] What's sad is you actually believe that. I bet you are one of those people who also says that your first amendment rights can't be abridged by a company or other private citizen. To be clear, people within the juvenile justice system can't publicly name them. Anyone who is not a government agent is free to do so. Not saying they should, but posts like yours cannot be allowed to stand.

Not to mention that it is illegal to bring a semiautomatic gun and ammo into school. The school community's Interest in safety trumps (pardon the expression) any quaint interest in preserving the privacy of a "juvenile" who has chosen to commit an adult felony involving the threat of deadly violence.

Regardless of laws or "quaint" notions of privacy, it would be extremely hypocritical for an anonymous poster to post this student's name. Hopefully everyone understands that DCUM is not the proper venue for revealing such information.

Agreed, but the school should reveal it as part of its discipline and administrative response to this matter. The criminal judicial process is separate obviously.

People at Wilson know the kid's name. It's no secret. The people who need to know, do. You are not one of those people.