First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

About 50% Maryland tags at my Capitol Hill neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:About 50% Maryland tags at my Capitol Hill neighborhood school.

Let me guess: Watkins

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About 50% Maryland tags at my Capitol Hill neighborhood school.

Let me guess: Watkins

Take their photos and post them on a residency grifters' web site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:About 50% Maryland tags at my Capitol Hill neighborhood school.

Why doesn't DCPS get that this is a problem??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Its not a black - white thing. It is a MD - DC thing. If blacks are the abusers, that is secondary to the issue but don't make this a race thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Its not a black - white thing. It is a MD - DC thing. If blacks are the abusers, that is secondary to the issue but don't make this a race thing.

I am PP, yes that was my point. I was responding to the robin hood posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

Maybe D.C. as a whole suffers from a culture of dishonesty.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/08/25/d-c-proves-to-be-not-so-honest-in-social-experiment/

You can't stop it, but someone should be minding the store in order to control it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Who is arguing in favor of residency cheating?

Pointing out that there are many people with legitimate reasons for driving kids to DC schools with MD tags, and that many of those legitimate reasons (homelessness, kinship care, foster care, separated or divorced parents, extended family as childcare providers, vehicles shared among extended family) disproportionately impact struggling families and particularly vulnerable kids is not the same as arguing in favor of cheating. It's arguing in favor of finding some method of enforcement that does not involve harassing people without real evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Who is arguing in favor of residency cheating?

Pointing out that there are many people with legitimate reasons for driving kids to DC schools with MD tags, and that many of those legitimate reasons (homelessness, kinship care, foster care, separated or divorced parents, extended family as childcare providers, vehicles shared among extended family) disproportionately impact struggling families and particularly vulnerable kids is not the same as arguing in favor of cheating. It's arguing in favor of finding some method of enforcement that does not involve harassing people without real evidence.

Who is arguing in favor, you ask? This is from the second page of the thread, and it's just the first example I came across. There are plenty others in this thread and other threads who either advocate in favor (like 2R mom here) or else defend cheaters without quite advocating for it, accusing detractors of being racist/classist:

"I have an incoming pk3 at 2R I have md tags as does grandma ... report me and you will be wasting time as other parent lives and owns property in dc ...grandma also owns property in dc and md and a business in dc... so many variables here and the school has all residency documentation they need. Don't take or personal just because our norm differs from yours. BTW as a single mom I'm looking for a place near 2R to rent and we'll let's just say I'm saving fir the 2500 plus a month rent and deposit with no go assistance."

Based on this and subsequent posts, seems that mom has custody and lives in MD. Seems that her family is wealthier than the median, free lunch-qualifying DCPS family from whom she is taking the spot. When I read this, my heart goes out to the low-income family losing the chance at a quality Head Start program at 2R. Apparently when others read this, their heart goes out to the 2R mom, whether because she is single, or a native washingtonian, I have no idea.

As for investigations causing hassles, I am not aware of a widespread phenomenon of people reporting every MD plate they see. Are you? In real life, people are more likely to report when they have an actual suspicion, based on a conversation with the parent or kid, or some other facts in addition to the license plate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Who is arguing in favor of residency cheating?

Pointing out that there are many people with legitimate reasons for driving kids to DC schools with MD tags, and that many of those legitimate reasons (homelessness, kinship care, foster care, separated or divorced parents, extended family as childcare providers, vehicles shared among extended family) disproportionately impact struggling families and particularly vulnerable kids is not the same as arguing in favor of cheating. It's arguing in favor of finding some method of enforcement that does not involve harassing people without real evidence.

Who is arguing in favor, you ask? This is from the second page of the thread, and it's just the first example I came across. There are plenty others in this thread and other threads who either advocate in favor (like 2R mom here) or else defend cheaters without quite advocating for it, accusing detractors of being racist/classist:

"I have an incoming pk3 at 2R I have md tags as does grandma ... report me and you will be wasting time as other parent lives and owns property in dc ...grandma also owns property in dc and md and a business in dc... so many variables here and the school has all residency documentation they need. Don't take or personal just because our norm differs from yours. BTW as a single mom I'm looking for a place near 2R to rent and we'll let's just say I'm saving fir the 2500 plus a month rent and deposit with no go assistance."

Based on this and subsequent posts, seems that mom has custody and lives in MD. Seems that her family is wealthier than the median, free lunch-qualifying DCPS family from whom she is taking the spot. When I read this, my heart goes out to the low-income family losing the chance at a quality Head Start program at 2R. Apparently when others read this, their heart goes out to the 2R mom, whether because she is single, or a native washingtonian, I have no idea.

As for investigations causing hassles, I am not aware of a widespread phenomenon of people reporting every MD plate they see. Are you? In real life, people are more likely to report when they have an actual suspicion, based on a conversation with the parent or kid, or some other facts in addition to the license plate.

Where does that PP say she has sole custody?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Who is arguing in favor of residency cheating?

Pointing out that there are many people with legitimate reasons for driving kids to DC schools with MD tags, and that many of those legitimate reasons (homelessness, kinship care, foster care, separated or divorced parents, extended family as childcare providers, vehicles shared among extended family) disproportionately impact struggling families and particularly vulnerable kids is not the same as arguing in favor of cheating. It's arguing in favor of finding some method of enforcement that does not involve harassing people without real evidence.

Who is arguing in favor, you ask? This is from the second page of the thread, and it's just the first example I came across. There are plenty others in this thread and other threads who either advocate in favor (like 2R mom here) or else defend cheaters without quite advocating for it, accusing detractors of being racist/classist:

"I have an incoming pk3 at 2R I have md tags as does grandma ... report me and you will be wasting time as other parent lives and owns property in dc ...grandma also owns property in dc and md and a business in dc... so many variables here and the school has all residency documentation they need. Don't take or personal just because our norm differs from yours. BTW as a single mom I'm looking for a place near 2R to rent and we'll let's just say I'm saving fir the 2500 plus a month rent and deposit with no go assistance."

Based on this and subsequent posts, seems that mom has custody and lives in MD. Seems that her family is wealthier than the median, free lunch-qualifying DCPS family from whom she is taking the spot. When I read this, my heart goes out to the low-income family losing the chance at a quality Head Start program at 2R. Apparently when others read this, their heart goes out to the 2R mom, whether because she is single, or a native washingtonian, I have no idea.

As for investigations causing hassles, I am not aware of a widespread phenomenon of people reporting every MD plate they see. Are you? In real life, people are more likely to report when they have an actual suspicion, based on a conversation with the parent or kid, or some other facts in addition to the license plate.

Where does that PP say she has sole custody?

Not the person you are responding to, but sole custody doesn't matter. The residence of the child matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to laugh at people who say "this isn't about race" and then concoct stories about imaginary pg people, who have their jobs because of Marion Berry. And love cheating the taxpayers.

If you were actually talking about real residency cheating, you might have a point. But having two parents in two different states is not, in fact, cheating. It's playing the lottery, same as you do.

Only, perhaps, not being such a sore... winner? As was pointed out, if you are already AT a school and still obsessive enough to start writing down license plate numbers, there's some issues.

Not really. For some (law-abiding) citizens, law-breakers should be reported. Because, laws. For some other people...well, they use some kind of illogical, emotion-based reasoning to justify the illegality. For a lot of posters I read on this board, it's out of an unfounded motivation to protect non-DC-resident black people. These people/persons seem unswayed by the fact-based logic that giving a slot to a non-DC resident deprives another DC resident of that same slot. These people/persons have "issues," imo.

If the kid lives in Maryland, but goes to school in D.C., the child should not be here. Full stop.

Yes, this is why I keep participating in these residency cheating threads, because of these clueless posters who think that residency cheating is some kind of robin hood activity that helps poor blacks, when in reality it is mostly about middle class people (who may happen to be black) cheating poor blacks.

Remember the cop family that was busted? It sounded like they have a 6 figure HHI, and they were using a rental property. Hardly poor! Use of a rental property is one of the easiest ways to cheat, or a relative's address. The cheaters are not poor. The cheated are, by and large, poor.

Some posters think this is a poor black vs rich white thing, so we get the out of control race-baiting posts like you see in this thread. But we're not talking about Janney here. You'd have to be so brazen to cheat at Janney coming from MD, with its 90-plus percent IB stat. You'd be pretty obvious, having to refuse playdates and avoid all conversation. The more popular cheating targets are, for example, Hill schools, with more diverse student populations, in terms of SES, race, and residency. Easier to get away with it. And those Hill schools with one exception could not be described as wealthy and white.

I don't think that residency cheating is the most importan issue on DC right now, far from it, but people need to stop making misguided social justice themed arguments in favor of it. It hurts, and does not help, poor people. This is one reason why the DC govt, a very liberal one in almost all respects, safe haven for undocumented immigrants, proposal to extend voting to non citizens, big affordable housing push, and so on, is going after residency cheats.

Who is arguing in favor of residency cheating?

Pointing out that there are many people with legitimate reasons for driving kids to DC schools with MD tags, and that many of those legitimate reasons (homelessness, kinship care, foster care, separated or divorced parents, extended family as childcare providers, vehicles shared among extended family) disproportionately impact struggling families and particularly vulnerable kids is not the same as arguing in favor of cheating. It's arguing in favor of finding some method of enforcement that does not involve harassing people without real evidence.

Who is arguing in favor, you ask? This is from the second page of the thread, and it's just the first example I came across. There are plenty others in this thread and other threads who either advocate in favor (like 2R mom here) or else defend cheaters without quite advocating for it, accusing detractors of being racist/classist:

"I have an incoming pk3 at 2R I have md tags as does grandma ... report me and you will be wasting time as other parent lives and owns property in dc ...grandma also owns property in dc and md and a business in dc... so many variables here and the school has all residency documentation they need. Don't take or personal just because our norm differs from yours. BTW as a single mom I'm looking for a place near 2R to rent and we'll let's just say I'm saving fir the 2500 plus a month rent and deposit with no go assistance."

Based on this and subsequent posts, seems that mom has custody and lives in MD. Seems that her family is wealthier than the median, free lunch-qualifying DCPS family from whom she is taking the spot. When I read this, my heart goes out to the low-income family losing the chance at a quality Head Start program at 2R. Apparently when others read this, their heart goes out to the 2R mom, whether because she is single, or a native washingtonian, I have no idea.

As for investigations causing hassles, I am not aware of a widespread phenomenon of people reporting every MD plate they see. Are you? In real life, people are more likely to report when they have an actual suspicion, based on a conversation with the parent or kid, or some other facts in addition to the license plate.

Where does that PP say she has sole custody?

Not the person you are responding to, but sole custody doesn't matter. The residence of the child matters.

PP stated that mom had custody. In reality, we have no idea how the child divides their time during the week. We also don't know the child's living circumstances in MD. If the child and her mother were resident in DC, and are now temporarily housed in MD with grandma (e.g. while getting on their feet after a separation, or during a transition between apartments that was not voluntary), then that child also qualifies as a DC student.

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sole custody doesn't matter. The residence of the child matters.

No, it's not the residence of the child that matters. It's the residence of the parent who enrolls the child that matters. And if the person who enrolls the child is not a parent, then they have to provide proof of custody or proof that the child is a ward of DC. If they have none of these documents, they must consent to a home visit.

Yes, there are cheaters of every stripe and hue when it comes to tax-funded services, (and they are more often white people but, hey, it's not about race) but in most cases, people are abiding by the rules. Not only are their domestic circumstances none of your f*cking business, there are absolutly NO poor children being denied anything - at least, not to the tune of all the tiny violins played here. There's a place for every DC child in DC public schools. Hell, the schools in the poorest areas of the city are underenrolled.

Stop this bullshit about poor kids being denied. It's such a lame argument for your manic busybodyness. Crusade against tax cheaters - tons of them in the wealthy enclaves of DC, with others making tons of money to help them.