Uggh! What is the point of the program then??if this were proven to be true, what a disappointment and unfair to kids who truly would benefit from the program in other schools. |
Which is how LLIV should be! Thank you so much for your comment. It is appalling that such "deals" are made at the expense of other students. |
I completely agree. I wouldn't trust any GRBS from Shrevewood at all. For all I know they are prepping the kids too. What is the benefit of having AAP students? Can FCPS not figure out how to grade schools based on their general ed population separate from AAP? Why should every school be afraid of losing their AAP students? |
PP, I don't know if you are the one that's been doing all the Shrevewood bashing or not! Apparently someone on here does not like Shrevewood, yes it's that obvious! If you don't like a school or agree with the Principal or other Administrators, there's no reason to continue to bash it. Make 1 point and move on! Makes me wonder if you are that vocal in your current school if you don't like the way something is handled. Your comment about the GRBS scores being inflated by Shrevewood or any other school is laughable. Do you honestly think they would give a child GRBS scores if they didn't think the child was able to handle the AAP curriculum? I personally know of two parents at Shrevewood whose kids didn't get into to the program due to low GRBS scores, so no they are not inflating the scores! As for competiation between Shrevewood/Westgate/Lemon Rd for AAP students each school does the best they can to retain good students and involved parents. We all know schools run better with a large involvement from parents. |
Are you the parent who thought it was so great that Shrevewood had a class of 13? That parent obviously didn't consider the other children at the school at all. I don't live in the Westgate, Shrevewood, or Lemon Road boundary, but have spent the past three years arguing for smaller class sizes for FCPS and increased budget from the BOS. I've also been working toward a better relationship between general ed and AAP students with expanded curriculum available to general ed children even though I have AAP children myself. My kids have been in classes of 30 for several years in early elementary with mixed AAP and general ed students. The discussion of 13 kids at Shrevewood to keep the LLIV kids separate was a slap in the face to all I've been working for. From what I can see, Lemon Road didn't try to change their staffing and class size just to get new AAP kids in while Shrevewood did. I can point it out as much as I want till it gets fixed. After that, I promise I will stop bashing Shrevewood. Really though, the parents and principal brought it on themselves. Yes, I do think often GRBS is inflated if kids have the option of staying at the base school for AAP and lowered possibly if they don't want them to leave. I believe this has been talked about at many schools, not just Shrevewood. There is obviously a problem within FCPS if two schools are competing for the same students. |
If there are so many AAP students at shrevewood why are the SOL and GS scores so low compared to other AAP centers |
| Shrevewood has close to 700 children at the school. All over the US there are elementary schools of 400 students that get along just fine. Why would Shrevewood need to retain more volunteer parents? |
Shrevewood is not a center and has only had 2 years of LLIV students thus far. There seems to be a mis-understanding of the # of students in the LLIV at Shrevewood. Here's how it works. Yes, the LLIV classes are smaller, but this is just the main # of students, the numbers do not speak that for example during Language Arts time, kids who tested into LA are in the class this can increase the class # at this time from 15 to 22. The same goes for math, during math the class size can be 26. Further, these kids then integrate with other kids and get moved around to classes with other gen ed kids when it comes to specials time, this includes, PE, Music, Mandarin, lunch and recess. I'm pointing this out there are posters on here who seem to think it's an exclusive 13 in these LLIV all day long, no, not the case! Additionally, did you all know that Shrevewood also has a large number of children with disabilities? There are so many good things going on at Shrevewood, the laser pointing of the LLIV class size is minimal in comparison. |
PP. Do you think Shrevewood should have to combine LLIV and other children in their math and language arts classes like any other LLIV school in FCPS has to do? Why should Shrevewood keep their current structure when other schools are not allowed to do this and have to even out their classes? |
I should have also added science and social studies to math and language arts time. |
There are no 13 student classes at Shrevewood that is not special ed. Try to get your facts straight. |
| ^^PP, I think that might be disingenuous. So the AAP classes are not 13, but they are significantly smaller than the other classes in their grade level, are they not? Someone posted the numbers. I think it was 18 compared to somewhere in the 20s. So they are not 13, but they are not equal to the Gen Ed classes in the same grade. I think (but could be wrong) last year, one was 14 or 15. That's half the size of other schools in the area (several McLean schools have class sizes of 30 -- my own child had 32 one year). |
So move out of McLean then to schools with smaller class sizes. I'm sure you can afford to. 3rd Grade is 15, 21, 22. If you want to even it out then it would be 19, 19, 20. You're up in arms because the class size is not 19 but 15? How is that rational? It makes as much sense and PPs who say that they surely won't trust the GBRS from Shrevewood now. Can you people think critically and make some sense? On one hand you want to put GE kids into the AAP class and on the other hand you're saying (some GE) kids at Shrevewood will be falsely given higher scores so they will be put into the AAP class. What the hell are you arguing about? I bet next year Shrevewood's 3rd grade AAP class will be bout 25 kids and will be bigger than at least one GE class. This is because they are ginning up the GBRS scores, have been prepping all the 1st graders on the NNAT and have made sure to let parents sit next to their kids during the 2nd grade COGAT testing. Shhh, don't tell anyone about these things though. |
You are such a jerk! Mclean or wherever else in the county doesn't need to deal with 32 kids in a class just so that AAP classes at Shrevewood are well under 20. If Shrevewood doesn't need the additional teachers for their general education or special education classes, then they should get less teachers and other schools that have 32 kids in a class should get an additional teacher instead. |
| According to FCPS's records from September, 318 K-3 classes had 27 or more children in them and 128 K-6 classes had 30 children or more in them. This doesn't even include special ed kids, so the actual number is even higher. Class size is not just a Mclean issue, but nice to know you think it's perfectly acceptable for your AAP child to have their own small class for core instruction while a Mclean general ed child sits in a class of 32. |