s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the experts have any questions or suggestions for Latino parents whose children are equally subject to racial profiling and discrimination and may be perhaps even more entrenched in gang culture and violence than the evil infamous blacks?

As long as they stay in their place there's no need for that discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

That's not exactly what the original statement inferred. According to them, successful brown minorities don't associate with anyone from their background.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

[Anonymous]

It is a new DCUM low that the ignorance on this thread has reached. Sheer,unadulterated ignorance.

[Anonymous]

What a surprise - more generalizations!
Apparently ALL black people eagerly embrace the ghetto and it's culture thus limiting their opportunities. Wow white people just know so much about blacks!

[Anonymous]

That whole 'talking white ' tho g is an exaggerated overstatement.
Studies have shown that phenomenon is just another version of 'nerds b. jocks' and not unique to black folk.
Most of the black folk I know have graduate degrees. Not all black or brown people come up from poverty.
I cannot believe that some idiot is promoting elitism and staying away from
Po' relatives as a way for black folks to come up'
SMH!!'

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Some people value family over fitting in with higher classes. Imagine that! Given the high rate of prescription medication in the white community, I would imagine it takes its toll.

[Anonymous]

Say...if I murdered 10-12 people in a mall would I be "acting white"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

Oh and don't forget about great gals like Andrea Yates and Susan Smith and Casey Anthony. Blacks could learn a lot about parenting from them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

You're full of shit. I was an honor roll student in school and was never picked on. Neither were my friends. Neither are my children and their friends. There's a difference between being smart and being a nerd and nerds DO get picked on. That's not anything new and it's damn sure not a black only thing. In fact, aren't many of the school shootings perpetrated by whites teens about being picked on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Say...if I murdered 10-12 people in a mall would I be "acting white"?

Yep. You also qualify if you're a pedophile.

[Anonymous]

Ahhhh white privilege. Must be nice to be ignorant as fuck and not get arrested or shot for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

I don't think anyone is saying that all white people are exemplary.

There is no doubt that our society and especially the judicial system is racist against blacks. I think being black in this country is hard (I am Asian). Blacks do definitely get the brunt of most of the racism around the world. Years of instituted slavery, families torn apart, not being allowed to be educated or even if you were, couldn't get a good job probably would hamper most cultures.

However, I think it is true that the black community in the US does not help itself as much as it could. I'm not saying it would be easy. How do you go about changing 200 yrs of a certain culture. But I don't see Al Sharpton and the likes shouting "we must change our culture to value education more than sports or music". It would be a good start if such leaders would indeed lead the way.

And I don't think black culture is all about violence. A lot of them do value family, going to church, etc...

IDK - this country is definitely unique because of its history with slavery. Other European countries had slavery but it was usually limited to the islands and not in the actual home country on the Continent or the UK, so its people and culture weren't as affected by slavery as the US is.