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Anonymous wrote:I don't have first hand info about the facts or evidence in this case. I do know, more often than not (as most humans do), when looking at a photo, whether it was posed or taken surreptitiously. Come on.

But you haven't seen these pictures, have you? So, how could you possibly know either way?

Nobody know either way. But most girls take photos of themselves, share them, then regret it. Most teen cases are not unwilling victims. Let it play out. We will see. But my opinion is that these girls are just mad they gave their "boyfriend" a picture and it went viral.

Really, I highly doubt that "most" girls out there are taking explicit pictures of themselves. And it just does not logically follow that giving one person a picture equates to permission for that person to publish that picture on a porn site. There's a huge leap there.
Of course these girls and their families must be angry. These boys deliberately took actions to humiliate these girls and place them in danger. Who wouldn't be angry in these circumstances? If it does turn out that the boys were given the pictures, they broke the trust they had with the other person. And the article mentions 52 different folders: that's a lot of girls allegedly willingly handing over pictures.
And yet, there are people out there who are saying that it is not the fault of the boys, they just couldn't help themselves. Apparently, when presented with a picture of a naked or partly naked girl, a boy just can't help opening a web site and collecting as many other pictures as he can and making it possible for others to see them, too. It clearly must be the fault of the person who has been humiliated and endangered.
Being foolish and immature is one thing, taking advantage of the trust of another and holding a person up for public ridicule is in a whole other category.

I don't think anyone is saying that the boys aren't at fault. I think most people are just saying the girls have culpability too and should be held accountable also. Do you want these girls giving nude pictures of themselves to your teenage son? My answer is categorically no. Should the boys be showing nude pictures to other teenagers, no. I don't think pornography is ok regardless of whether the person passing it to others is the person in the pictures or someone else. You are teaching young girls the wrong thing if you don't hold them accountable for their actions. If a teenage boy sent your daughter a nude picture of himself, would you be so quick to say no harm no foul, or would you be outraged? I say this in the interest of stopping young girls from making incredibly poor choices. Maybe if they knew that sending nude pics of themselves could be treated as distribution of child pornography they might think twice about doing it. The boys also should be held accountable. Accountability on both sides is the surest way of preventing this.

If it is found that the girls took the pictures themselves, of course they should not do that and should be culpable for their individual action. The girls have been embarrassed and put in danger by the actions of those who put this site together and then sent out links to the site. The creators of the site have the greater culpability because of the number of pictures involved and the element of circulating and distributing among others.

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Don't ignore the fact that these girls who take sexually explicit pictures of themselves and then "send them to a friend" are also putting the friend who receives them in danger, too.

I really can't understand how posing for dirty pictures and sending them to someone is being defended. I'm beginning to suspect there are some down 'n dirty dc moms posting here

As if the very nature of such an activity has anything to do with trust or respect, even slightly.

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It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have first hand info about the facts or evidence in this case. I do know, more often than not (as most humans do), when looking at a photo, whether it was posed or taken surreptitiously. Come on.

But you haven't seen these pictures, have you? So, how could you possibly know either way?

Nobody know either way. But most girls take photos of themselves, share them, then regret it. Most teen cases are not unwilling victims. Let it play out. We will see. But my opinion is that these girls are just mad they gave their "boyfriend" a picture and it went viral.

Really, I highly doubt that "most" girls out there are taking explicit pictures of themselves. And it just does not logically follow that giving one person a picture equates to permission for that person to publish that picture on a porn site. There's a huge leap there.
Of course these girls and their families must be angry. These boys deliberately took actions to humiliate these girls and place them in danger. Who wouldn't be angry in these circumstances? If it does turn out that the boys were given the pictures, they broke the trust they had with the other person. And the article mentions 52 different folders: that's a lot of girls allegedly willingly handing over pictures.
And yet, there are people out there who are saying that it is not the fault of the boys, they just couldn't help themselves. Apparently, when presented with a picture of a naked or partly naked girl, a boy just can't help opening a web site and collecting as many other pictures as he can and making it possible for others to see them, too. It clearly must be the fault of the person who has been humiliated and endangered.
Being foolish and immature is one thing, taking advantage of the trust of another and holding a person up for public ridicule is in a whole other category.

No, we are not saying the boys are blameless, couldn't help themselves, or aren't guilty of doing something very bad. What we are saying is that child pornography might not be the best/worst charge for the boys, and that the girls were more than merely foolish but are guilty of something bad as well. In my opinion, neither the boys nor the girls should be charged with child pornography, but if the girls did voluntarily take those pics and send them out, they all could be charged.

False equivalency. I don't think the charge against the boys will be possession of child pornography, anyway. I think there will be multiple charges, some more serious.

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It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.

Nt strange to hold children responsible for their actions.

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It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.

Not strange to hold children responsible for their actions.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have first hand info about the facts or evidence in this case. I do know, more often than not (as most humans do), when looking at a photo, whether it was posed or taken surreptitiously. Come on.

But you haven't seen these pictures, have you? So, how could you possibly know either way?

Nobody know either way. But most girls take photos of themselves, share them, then regret it. Most teen cases are not unwilling victims. Let it play out. We will see. But my opinion is that these girls are just mad they gave their "boyfriend" a picture and it went viral.

Really, I highly doubt that "most" girls out there are taking explicit pictures of themselves. And it just does not logically follow that giving one person a picture equates to permission for that person to publish that picture on a porn site. There's a huge leap there.
Of course these girls and their families must be angry. These boys deliberately took actions to humiliate these girls and place them in danger. Who wouldn't be angry in these circumstances? If it does turn out that the boys were given the pictures, they broke the trust they had with the other person. And the article mentions 52 different folders: that's a lot of girls allegedly willingly handing over pictures.
And yet, there are people out there who are saying that it is not the fault of the boys, they just couldn't help themselves. Apparently, when presented with a picture of a naked or partly naked girl, a boy just can't help opening a web site and collecting as many other pictures as he can and making it possible for others to see them, too. It clearly must be the fault of the person who has been humiliated and endangered.
Being foolish and immature is one thing, taking advantage of the trust of another and holding a person up for public ridicule is in a whole other category.

I don't think anyone is saying that the boys aren't at fault. I think most people are just saying the girls have culpability too and should be held accountable also. Do you want these girls giving nude pictures of themselves to your teenage son? My answer is categorically no. Should the boys be showing nude pictures to other teenagers, no. I don't think pornography is ok regardless of whether the person passing it to others is the person in the pictures or someone else. You are teaching young girls the wrong thing if you don't hold them accountable for their actions. If a teenage boy sent your daughter a nude picture of himself, would you be so quick to say no harm no foul, or would you be outraged? I say this in the interest of stopping young girls from making incredibly poor choices. Maybe if they knew that sending nude pics of themselves could be treated as distribution of child pornography they might think twice about doing it. The boys also should be held accountable. Accountability on both sides is the surest way of preventing this.

If it is found that the girls took the pictures themselves, of course they should not do that and should be culpable for their individual action. The girls have been embarrassed and put in danger by the actions of those who put this site together and then sent out links to the site. The creators of the site have the greater culpability because of the number of pictures involved and the element of circulating and distributing among others.

Again, if a boy sent naked pictures of himself and sent them to your teenage daughter, would you think he should just get a pass.? Seriously, If anything like this is ever sent to my son, the first thing I will do is call the police and file a report that the girl is distributing pornography to a minor. There has to be some penalty for that. The double standard on this forum is appalling.

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It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.

What's odd is how some people are saying there is nothing wrong with the girls sending porn to other teenagers. Sorry, that's not ok either.

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Anonymous wrote:It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.

Funny thing is if the girls didn't post naked selfies, there'd be no naked pics of the girls in dropbox. So totally odd. And the moms here are in denial. Just the strangest thing.

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Interesting also that there is a strain of hostility toward women running through a number of the posts that are trying to minimize the actions of the boys in this case.

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I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be silly. There's plenty of blame to go around for all the guilty. It's not only the girls vs. the boys.

Which one of you will now start parenting in a new way (that has obliously been lacking?)

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be silly. There's plenty of blame to go around for all the guilty. It's not only the girls vs. the boys.

Which one of you will now start parenting in a new way (that has obliously been lacking?)

*obviously

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Interesting also that there is a strain of hostility toward women running through a number of the posts that are trying to minimize the actions of the boys in this case.

This. Misogyny is clearly alive and well on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't be silly. There's plenty of blame to go around for all the guilty. It's not only the girls vs. the boys.

Which one of you will now start parenting in a new way (that has obliously been lacking?)

*obviously

Anyone?