McLean hish school porn site -Wash Post

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Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

While there may be a few posts like this, most of the posts that focused on the girls were as a result of people saying they placed no blame at all on the girl, which I totally disagree with. I definitely don't think the boys should get a pass at all. I'm just appalled by those posters who think it's ok for girls to send porn to other minors. I don't want my child being the recipient of any pictures like this and think the girls need to be held accountable or they and others will keep doing this. Just because the boys are more wrong doesn't mean what the girls did wasn't also unacceptable and in fact criminal.

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Anonymous wrote:I never would have posted to this thread except for reading the posts that were leaping to the defense of the two young people cited in the newspaper article and appearing to attempt to absolve them of responsibility while blaming their actions on the kids whose pictures were found on the website being investigated. It just seemed so absurd, and the supporters of the young people whose names were listed on the search warrant appeared unable to understand the possible differences in culpability involved.

These posts seemed to declare over and over that if there is any responsibility at all ascribed to the kids in the pictures, then that was somehow equal to the responsibility of those who collected photos, set up a website, organized and labeled photos on the site, and sent out emails with links so that others could also view the pictures. At least one post indicated that it was possible that the kids in the pictures were actually behind the set up of the site (really, if anyone has that sort of information, they would do better to take it to the police and not post it on an anonymous web site).

I don't live near this school nor any of the surrounding schools and I only know what was written in the Post, so I have no dog in this fight. I just find it disturbing that so many adults(?) are unable to see a difference between a child taking pictures of oneself and someone else collecting so many of these pictures, possibly 50 or more, and going through each step necessary to distribute these pictures to others. If kids were taking pictures of themselves, they may be lacking in respect for themselves, but those who collected such pictures showed lack of respect for others.

They're kids, so we can hope they will all see what they did wrong and learn from the experience, but those who are excusing the kids who created the website because of the possibility that other kids took pictures of themselves are not doing any favors for the kids involved. Only those involved know what actually happened and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I'm not surprised that kids would make mistakes, especially with the rapid evolution and constant change in the uses of social media, but I am surprised that adults would so quickly try to excuse one set of children and refer to another set of children in such denigrating ways. This thread would have died away quickly had people refrained from blaming others and using demeaning terminology to refer to the kids who may appear in the pictures on the site.

I do not see an attempt to "absolve" or "excuse," but instead a veiled request to allow the investigators and prosecutors to do their jobs, in a matter involving juveniles, without a lynch mob forming outside their doors.

Is it really too much to suggest that you tread more lightly at this particular juncture? I guess only you can answer that question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

And this would be an example of a poster with reading compression problems.

[Anonymous]

And spelling problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

And this would be an example of a poster with reading compression problems.

Reading compression--Is that the new strategy FCPS concocted for over-worked high school students to maximize the amount of coursework reading they can cram into their busy schedules?

[Anonymous]

This whole thread makes me want to go Duggar!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

Yes. I believe taking these pictures and sending them to my minor child is offensive! I am sick of these girls sending their slutty pictures to my child. I have not yet contacted the policies about this criminal activity because I do not want to ruin a young life. But... These types of situation make me think I need to have these girls prosecuted so other girls get the message that it is NOT okay to send naked pictures.

Mothers of girls... Can you please stop your desperate pathetic daughters from sending their naked pictures to their friends.

Actually maybe if we create a web page and they know they will be viewed by everyone they know, including their parents, for years to come they might actually stop.

But is your child sick of it? Yes, I'm sure he's an angel, who immediately deletes the pics and would never share them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10:31- The difference with those other stories is that no one was trying to defend the people who were being investigated or charged. People are posting here because they are surprised that anyone would try to defend the actions of people creating this kind of website.

Agree. In those other schools, there was no 20 page defense thread where people called those kids "wonderful boys." I'm sur the McLean Mommies think they are bein persecuted, but I think they brought it on themselves by trashing the girls and defending the boys so vociferously.

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/mclean-high-sophomore-behind-underage-porn-photos-police-say/2014/05/16/decaf752-dd2b-11e3-b745-87d39690c5c0_story.html?wprss=rss_local

Things like this are becoming more and more common. Our schools and parents need to work harder to educate kids on things that can land you on the sex offender registry for life.

No, our parents need to work harder to teach boys what it means to have respect for women and to teach girls what it means to have respect for themselves and their bodies (If any of these girls knowingly allowed nude or explicit pictures to be taken of them. It's a big if and I hope they did not). OP, if the only problem you see is some of these kids being on a sex registry shame on you. The boys' names, especially the 18 year old, will come out and that does not bother me in the least.

The pics were "posed" according to police report. I don't know how you unintentionally pose. Or accidentally post your nude pose. But believe what you will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

Yes. I believe taking these pictures and sending them to my minor child is offensive! I am sick of these girls sending their slutty pictures to my child. I have not yet contacted the policies about this criminal activity because I do not want to ruin a young life. But... These types of situation make me think I need to have these girls prosecuted so other girls get the message that it is NOT okay to send naked pictures.

Mothers of girls... Can you please stop your desperate pathetic daughters from sending their naked pictures to their friends.

Actually maybe if we create a web page and they know they will be viewed by everyone they know, including their parents, for years to come they might actually stop.

But is your child sick of it? Yes, I'm sure he's an angel, who immediately deletes the pics and would never share them.

He is only 13 and hasn't even hit puberty yet, so yes, he is a bit sick of them. But by the time he is 16 I am sure he will be desensitized to the fact that they are "private" and to be cherished and probably will drop them in a Dropbox to share.

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On the bright side, there has been no suggestion Ryan McElveen intends to be anyone's date at the McLean prom, so at least we're spared from that.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-school-board-member-scales-back-plans-after-accepting-students-prom-invitation/2014/05/21/a3b22340-df9a-11e3-8dcc-d6b7fede081a_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:10:31- The difference with those other stories is that no one was trying to defend the people who were being investigated or charged. People are posting here because they are surprised that anyone would try to defend the actions of people creating this kind of website.

Agree. In those other schools, there was no 20 page defense thread where people called those kids "wonderful boys." I'm sur the McLean Mommies think they are bein persecuted, but I think they brought it on themselves by trashing the girls and defending the boys so vociferously.

One person on the 20 pages called the boy wonderful. There is no defense of the boys other than that. The 20 pages are of people who are shocked at how many people think what the girls did is not a significant part of the problem. I'm one of the posters on those twenty pages and I in no way defended the boys. I also am not a McLean mommy. Just a mother of two daughters whom I don't want to think it's ok to do this or be delusional enough to think it's "just a mistake." It's way more than that. People with this attitude are enablers who are putting girls in danger by not holding them accountable for their actions. I find the whole thing sad and disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

Yes. I believe taking these pictures and sending them to my minor child is offensive! I am sick of these girls sending their slutty pictures to my child. I have not yet contacted the policies about this criminal activity because I do not want to ruin a young life. But... These types of situation make me think I need to have these girls prosecuted so other girls get the message that it is NOT okay to send naked pictures.

Mothers of girls... Can you please stop your desperate pathetic daughters from sending their naked pictures to their friends.

Actually maybe if we create a web page and they know they will be viewed by everyone they know, including their parents, for years to come they might actually stop.

But is your child sick of it? Yes, I'm sure he's an angel, who immediately deletes the pics and would never share them.

You may be certain that the younger siblings who sneak onto their older sibling's phone are instantly, thoroughly sickened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are quite a few posts that indicate that taking pictures of oneself is equivalent to collecting the pictures of other children and forming a website to allow others to view them. Other posts place the blame on the kids who possibly took their own pictures and imply that it is their fault that the other kids created a website.

While there may be a few posts like this, most of the posts that focused on the girls were as a result of people saying they placed no blame at all on the girl, which I totally disagree with. I definitely don't think the boys should get a pass at all. I'm just appalled by those posters who think it's ok for girls to send porn to other minors. I don't want my child being the recipient of any pictures like this and think the girls need to be held accountable or they and others will keep doing this. Just because the boys are more wrong doesn't mean what the girls did wasn't also unacceptable and in fact criminal.

I'm not seeing the posts that say it's okay to send porn, I just keep seeing the ones saying that the children who took their own individual pictures have the same amount of culpability as the young people who collected and labeled the pictures, put them on a website, and sent out links to others to view. I also see posts using demeaning terminology to describe the children whose pictures are in the folders on the site.

I see that you are in fact acknowledging that the site creators have more moral culpability, but other posts have not. If it is true that children took their own pictures, I suspect that the fallout from this incident will be a deterrent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/mclean-high-sophomore-behind-underage-porn-photos-police-say/2014/05/16/decaf752-dd2b-11e3-b745-87d39690c5c0_story.html?wprss=rss_local

Things like this are becoming more and more common. Our schools and parents need to work harder to educate kids on things that can land you on the sex offender registry for life.

No, our parents need to work harder to teach boys what it means to have respect for women and to teach girls what it means to have respect for themselves and their bodies (If any of these girls knowingly allowed nude or explicit pictures to be taken of them. It's a big if and I hope they did not). OP, if the only problem you see is some of these kids being on a sex registry shame on you. The boys' names, especially the 18 year old, will come out and that does not bother me in the least.

The pics were "posed" according to police report. I don't know how you unintentionally pose. Or accidentally post your nude pose. But believe what you will.

Few kids have a parent at home. What do you expect?