To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Dear crazy one: you seem to have forgotten this. So I'll repost.

Anonymous wrote:


According to the poster at 16:00, there are 20,949 Asian kids in Moco (she used your own demographic numbers, that Asian students represent 14.3% of Moco's 146,497 students in the system.)

Do you know what this means?

113% of Moco's 20,949 Asian students would have to be in advanced math to equal the 23,697 white students in advanced math. That's right, 113% of Asian students. There are more white kids in advanced math in MoCo than there are Asian kids at any level of math in Moco.

You tell us: can the achievement gap between asian and white students ever widen so much that 113% of Asian students are in advanced math?

You can repost until the cows come home. Is this citation here from the school of garbage in and garbage out or Warner's Comic Book Academy? This is utter garbage. One of the posters suggested to simply ask your children in the County. There'll give you a more credible answer.

Is this ... what were your own words ... "waffling and denial"?

[Anonymous]

Lol @ dear crazy one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You can repost until the cows come home. Is this citation here from the school of garbage in and garbage out or Warner's Comic Book Academy? This is utter garbage. One of the posters suggested to simply ask your children in the County. There'll give you a more credible answer.

How can this be utter garbage when you thoughtfully provided the numbers yourself? All we did was crunch your own numbers, because you were incapable of doing the crunching.

[Anonymous]

OMG, there is not enough "diversity" in MoCo schools!

Think about it: 1.2b Indians, 1.3b Chinese, 1.0b Africans, 115m Mexicans, but only 313m Americans!

Why on earth are most of the teachers in MoCo American? and most of those caucasian American? Don't they know they are a minority in this world? We must, must have "proper" representation and diversity.

What's next, you are going to tell me that top US or UK colleges do not have "proper" diversity either!?!

[Anonymous]

Time to see your shrink again?

[Anonymous]

Why is there a growing academic performance and achievement gap between Asian Americans and everyone else in Montgomery County and MCPS? Is the new curriculum 2.0 designed to close this gap?

[Anonymous]

Why is there a growing academic performance and achievement gap between Asian Americans and everyone else in Montgomery County and MCPS? Is the new curriculum 2.0 designed to close this gap?

I do believe so. Bring all to a comfortable middle ground. Less performance and achievement spread. Though not sure whether the comfortable middle ground is a competitive global position for our young students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is there a growing academic performance and achievement gap between Asian Americans and everyone else in Montgomery County and MCPS? Is the new curriculum 2.0 designed to close this gap?

Looks like you forgot the last 10 pages already. You were told quite clearly, using your own numbers and links, that your conspiracy theory is ridiculous because there are more white kids in advanced math than there are Asian Americans in any kind of math in MoCo, and the "old guard" as you call them isn't going to hurt their own kids. So here you go ... again.

Anonymous wrote:

According to the poster at 16:00, there are 20,949 Asian kids in Moco (she used your own demographic numbers, that Asian students represent 14.3% of Moco's 146,497 students in the system.)

Do you know what this means?

113% of Moco's 20,949 Asian students would have to be in advanced math to equal the 23,697 white students in advanced math. That's right, 113% of Asian students. There are more white kids in advanced math in MoCo than there are Asian kids at any level of math in Moco.

You tell us: can the achievement gap between asian and white students ever widen so much that 113% of Asian students are in advanced math?

[Anonymous]

Not true. I found this recent article. The author contradicts what you say. It sounds you are White and refuse to accept Asians are outperforming everyone in Montgomery county and MCPS. This is the real academic perfprmance gap. There is no need for shame. There is no need to piggy back on their success in MCPS. Curriculum 2.0 is an attempt to close the gap between Asians and everyone else including whites. I am from NY... and white. We are seeing the same widening achievement gap between the highest performers (Asian Americans) and all the rest. This fact should not bring shame and denial.

Achievement gap widening between Asian American students and everyone else
By Kevin Sieff, Published: April 5, 2011
Washington Post
As policymakers over the past decade focused on closing the achievement gap between white students and underrepresented minorities, another rift was widening: the gap between Asian American students and everyone else.
A new study from the Center on Education Policy underscores how significantly Asian American students outpace their peers, particularly in Maryland and Virginia.
The data focus on student achievement on eighth-grade state standardized tests, including a rare analysis of student performance at advanced levels. It is at those levels that the exceptional — and rapidly improving — achievement of Asian American middle- schoolers was most pronounced.
Nationwide, the percentage of Asian American students scoring in the upper echelons on math exams was 17 points higher than the percentage of white students. Notably, that gap has continued to widen in more recent years. In Virginia, for example, Asian American students’ advanced-level math performance leapt from 59 percent to 76 percent between 2006 and 2009, compared with an increase from 43 percent to 58 percent for white students.
In Maryland, that same pattern was apparent on reading tests. The percentage of Asian American students who tested in advanced levels grew from 40 percent to 58 percent between 2006 and 2009. The percentage of white students in that category grew from 35 percent to 48 percent.
“The lesson for other groups is that effort counts. Asian American students are working harder, doing better and getting ahead,” said Jack Jennings, president of the Center on Education Policy.
In Fairfax and Montgomery counties, Asian American students outperform their white peers at the advanced level in several subject areas, but those gaps do not appear to be growing at the same pace as in the rest of their states or the nation.
Fairfax officials said they hadn’t studied the issue. “When we look at the achievement gap, we look at white and Asian students on one side, and African American and Latinos on the other,” said Fairfax County Public Schools spokesman Paul Regnier. “That particular gap isn’t something we’ve looked at specifically.”
Jennings points out that the Asian American subgroup is an imperfect monolith — including students whose families hail from countries as diverse as Japan and Jordan. There are clear disparities within the subgroup. Pacific Islanders, for example, don’t perform as well as Korean students on standardized tests.
But in most states, Asian Americans — sometimes labeled a “model minority” — outperformed all other subpopulations. Some scholars are quick to argue against that label, saying it plays down the diversity, and the challenges, that pervade the subpopulation.
“In reality, there are significant numbers of Asian American and Pacific Islander students who struggle with poverty, who are English-language learners increasingly likely to leave school with rudimentary language skills, who are at risk of dropping out, joining gangs and remaining on the margins of society,” said a 2008 report, “Facts, Not Fiction: Setting the Record Straight,” from the National Commission on Asian American and Pacific Islander Research in Education.
The achievement gap is most commonly measured by the number of students who are considered “proficient” in a given subject. By those measures, the gap between historically underperforming minority groups and white students is shrinking in eighth grade, according to the study. But when the data focuses on achievement at advanced levels, the gap is widening — between white and Asian students, but also between African American and Hispanic students and their white peers.
“It looks like we’re raising the bottom, but not so much helping students in the middle get to the top,” Jennings said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. I found this recent article. The author contradicts what you say. It sounds you are White and refuse to accept Asians are outperforming everyone in Montgomery county and MCPS. This is the real academic perfprmance gap. There is no need for shame. There is no need to piggy back on their success in MCPS. Curriculum 2.0 is an attempt to close the gap between Asians and everyone else including whites. I am from NY... and white. We are seeing the same widening achievement gap between the highest performers (Asian Americans) and all the rest. This fact should not bring shame and denial.

Achievement gap widening between Asian American students and everyone else
By Kevin Sieff, Published: April 5, 2011
Washington Post
As policymakers over the past decade focused on closing the achievement gap between white students and underrepresented minorities, another rift was widening: the gap between Asian American students and everyone else.
A new study from the Center on Education Policy underscores how significantly Asian American students outpace their peers, particularly in Maryland and Virginia.
The data focus on student achievement on eighth-grade state standardized tests, including a rare analysis of student performance at advanced levels. It is at those levels that the exceptional — and rapidly improving — achievement of Asian American middle- schoolers was most pronounced.
Nationwide, the percentage of Asian American students scoring in the upper echelons on math exams was 17 points higher than the percentage of white students. Notably, that gap has continued to widen in more recent years. In Virginia, for example, Asian American students’ advanced-level math performance leapt from 59 percent to 76 percent between 2006 and 2009, compared with an increase from 43 percent to 58 percent for white students.
In Maryland, that same pattern was apparent on reading tests. The percentage of Asian American students who tested in advanced levels grew from 40 percent to 58 percent between 2006 and 2009. The percentage of white students in that category grew from 35 percent to 48 percent.
“The lesson for other groups is that effort counts. Asian American students are working harder, doing better and getting ahead,” said Jack Jennings, president of the Center on Education Policy.
In Fairfax and Montgomery counties, Asian American students outperform their white peers at the advanced level in several subject areas, but those gaps do not appear to be growing at the same pace as in the rest of their states or the nation.
Fairfax officials said they hadn’t studied the issue. “When we look at the achievement gap, we look at white and Asian students on one side, and African American and Latinos on the other,” said Fairfax County Public Schools spokesman Paul Regnier. “That particular gap isn’t something we’ve looked at specifically.”
Jennings points out that the Asian American subgroup is an imperfect monolith — including students whose families hail from countries as diverse as Japan and Jordan. There are clear disparities within the subgroup. Pacific Islanders, for example, don’t perform as well as Korean students on standardized tests.
But in most states, Asian Americans — sometimes labeled a “model minority” — outperformed all other subpopulations. Some scholars are quick to argue against that label, saying it plays down the diversity, and the challenges, that pervade the subpopulation.
“In reality, there are significant numbers of Asian American and Pacific Islander students who struggle with poverty, who are English-language learners increasingly likely to leave school with rudimentary language skills, who are at risk of dropping out, joining gangs and remaining on the margins of society,” said a 2008 report, “Facts, Not Fiction: Setting the Record Straight,” from the National Commission on Asian American and Pacific Islander Research in Education.
The achievement gap is most commonly measured by the number of students who are considered “proficient” in a given subject. By those measures, the gap between historically underperforming minority groups and white students is shrinking in eighth grade, according to the study. But when the data focuses on achievement at advanced levels, the gap is widening — between white and Asian students, but also between African American and Hispanic students and their white peers.
“It looks like we’re raising the bottom, but not so much helping students in the middle get to the top,” Jennings said.

Too bad nothing in the article contradicted what he said...

[Anonymous]

Too bad nothing in the article contradicted what he said...

Math is not a forte here ... curriculum 2.0 product (quantitative illiterate)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. I found this recent article. The author contradicts what you say. It sounds you are White and refuse to accept Asians are outperforming everyone in Montgomery county and MCPS. This is the real academic perfprmance gap. There is no need for shame. There is no need to piggy back on their success in MCPS. Curriculum 2.0 is an attempt to close the gap between Asians and everyone else including whites. I am from NY... and white. We are seeing the same widening achievement gap between the highest performers (Asian Americans) and all the rest. This fact should not bring shame and denial.

You're obviously the Asian crackpot, who is an unregenerate sock puppet. To help you understand why this is so obvious, I've bolded some of your grammatical mistakes. Plus you love that word, "denial" and use it in half your posts, like the post above where I've bolded it. Also, Montgomery County and MCPS are the same thing, and you've made this exact same mistake in posts earlier in this thread.

But I am confused about your motives: are you still flogging that dumb conspiracy theory about white "old guard" guys holding back Asian students? Or have you now stripped it all down to the basics: your theory of Asian Racial Supremacy? I see you're really working that Asian Racial Supremacy thing, starting threads here, in the College forum, and in the Off Topic forum. Too bad the Off Topic thread didn't go the way you wanted, huh, with those funny links someone (not me) put up? And boy, your racism really got called out on the College forum, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Too bad nothing in the article contradicted what he said...

Math is not a forte here ... curriculum 2.0 product (quantitative illiterate)

You're not exactly one to talk, given that you unwittingly provided the stats to drive your dumb conspiracy theory into the ground. And then it took about 5 pages to explain to you what your own numbers mean.

[Anonymous]

You're obviously the Asian crackpot, who is an unregenerate sock puppet. To help you understand why this is so obvious, I've bolded some of your grammatical mistakes. Plus you love that word, "denial" and use it in half your posts, like the post above where I've bolded it. Also, Montgomery County and MCPS are the same thing, and you've made this exact same mistake in posts earlier in this thread.

But I am confused about your motives: are you still flogging that dumb conspiracy theory about white "old guard" guys holding back Asian students? Or have you now stripped it all down to the basics: your theory of Asian Racial Supremacy? I see you're really working that Asian Racial Supremacy thing, starting threads here, in the College forum, and in the Off Topic forum. Too bad the Off Topic thread didn't go the way you wanted, huh, with those funny links someone (not me) put up? And boy, your racism really got called out on the College forum, huh?

Are you a frustrated European American who cannot live with the reality/fact Asian Americans have outperformed and out achieved the rest of our children in Montgomery County and MCPS? The MCPS leadership is clearly concerned with closing this gap. Your whining and whimpy insults do not change the facts you are so afraid to admit.

By the way, what do you know about the English language? Absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous]

You're obviously the Asian crackpot, who is an unregenerate sock puppet. To help you understand why this is so obvious, I've bolded some of your grammatical mistakes. Plus you love that word, "denial" and use it in half your posts, like the post above where I've bolded it. Also, Montgomery County and MCPS are the same thing, and you've made this exact same mistake in posts earlier in this thread.

But I am confused about your motives: are you still flogging that dumb conspiracy theory about white "old guard" guys holding back Asian students? Or have you now stripped it all down to the basics: your theory of Asian Racial Supremacy? I see you're really working that Asian Racial Supremacy thing, starting threads here, in the College forum, and in the Off Topic forum. Too bad the Off Topic thread didn't go the way you wanted, huh, with those funny links someone (not me) put up? And boy, your racism really got called out on the College forum, huh?

Wrong again. I am white like you...but I have a spine.