Third round options on Woodward Boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:I posted above that we are currently Blair but could be rezoned to Northwood (option B or F), which is on the face of it not ideal.

I don’t have a problem with arts but putting the humanities magnet at Northwood would make it a considerably more attractive possibility for my family.

With ~2000 students and ~40% FARMS, Northwood has potential to be comparable to Blair in terms of a high-achieving cohort and course offerings... unless tons of kids choose to leave for different schools.

I expect once Northwood is back on University Blvd, it will become stronger and stronger. Even as a smaller school, it has a decent cohort of high-achieving kids now, and has a strong admin team. With more students, a new facility, no complications of being in a holding school/construction site, it should shine.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

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Option F makes little sense. It moves kids in the Wood Acres district to a high school that is double the driving time from their current zoned high school. It also moves kids in a walk zone to BCC (those at Bethesda Elementary) to Whitman which is not in their walk zone. This extra distance unnecessarily complicates family life, friendships, after school activity and sport participation, time for homework, and kids health (by reducing sleep time). It also reduces safety by putting more buses and cars on the road when kids could have the option to walk.

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Interesting to see so many folks spun up about F. Maybe I’m delusional but I don’t think that one will happen because Takoma Park will curb stomp it. Sending Rolling Terrace to Eastern seems like a nonstarter for the city, which has vigorously opposed breaking up the feeder pattern that covers its jurisdiction — even just a little bit for MS.

And, though this is more speculative, there is the apparently real threat that MCPS will use the forthcoming ES boundary study to have East Silver Spring “eat” part of the existing TK/Piney Branch ES zone north of Piney Branch road, and then send those kids to Northwood under option F. Some of Takoma Park’s most powerful and vocal residents live in those historic homes north of Piney Branch road. They’re already mobilizing from what I’ve heard, and I would be surprised to see the city object to option F to guard against the possible ES boundary developments coming up next.

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**Would not be surprised***

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see so many folks spun up about F. Maybe I’m delusional but I don’t think that one will happen because Takoma Park will curb stomp it. Sending Rolling Terrace to Eastern seems like a nonstarter for the city, which has vigorously opposed breaking up the feeder pattern that covers its jurisdiction — even just a little bit for MS.

And, though this is more speculative, there is the apparently real threat that MCPS will use the forthcoming ES boundary study to have East Silver Spring “eat” part of the existing TK/Piney Branch ES zone north of Piney Branch road, and then send those kids to Northwood under option F. Some of Takoma Park’s most powerful and vocal residents live in those historic homes north of Piney Branch road. They’re already mobilizing from what I’ve heard, and I would be surprised to see the city object to option F to guard against the possible ES boundary developments coming up next.

Rolling Terrace goes to SSIMS currently, so Eastern isn’t surprising?

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Anonymous wrote:zoned for WJ or Woodward, depending on model, current WJ

It seems like F does a good job, compared to others, of balancing capacity, FARMS and EML. I also like that it keeps GPES together. For my neighborhood proximity is also fine. So overall leaning towards F being my top pick.

My question regarding proximity: how do Wheaton Woods families feel about the longer drive to Woodward vs current drive to Wheaton?

Also, overall what do people think of F?

Who cares about GPES being kept together. Us at SSIM are being shut out…they’re closing our school. Say no to F. It deserves an F grade.

Your neighboring KPES isn’t being kept together and you don’t see them nagging as much as GPES

Voting for E or G over F isn't going to help keep SSIMS open, all 3 assume closure. That's no reason to be against F.

We should all pick one option to vote for among A-D (top choice if SSIMS stays open) and one option to vote for among E-G (top choice if SSIMS closes.). Really they should have set the whole survey up that way.

B and E

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

You’ve been beating this drum for months. Plenty of Wheaton capacity under all options.

Also even your display above has too many options under Wheaton

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

You’ve been beating this drum for months. Plenty of Wheaton capacity under all options.

Also even your display above has too many options under Wheaton

DP but I think you are agreeing with the PP. All schools are under-capacity under all options.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see so many folks spun up about F. Maybe I’m delusional but I don’t think that one will happen because Takoma Park will curb stomp it. Sending Rolling Terrace to Eastern seems like a nonstarter for the city, which has vigorously opposed breaking up the feeder pattern that covers its jurisdiction — even just a little bit for MS.

And, though this is more speculative, there is the apparently real threat that MCPS will use the forthcoming ES boundary study to have East Silver Spring “eat” part of the existing TK/Piney Branch ES zone north of Piney Branch road, and then send those kids to Northwood under option F. Some of Takoma Park’s most powerful and vocal residents live in those historic homes north of Piney Branch road. They’re already mobilizing from what I’ve heard, and I would be surprised to see the city object to option F to guard against the possible ES boundary developments coming up next.

Rolling Terrace goes to SSIMS currently, so Eastern isn’t surprising?

Ha I’m dumb. Nevermind - option F for the win.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

You’ve been beating this drum for months. Plenty of Wheaton capacity under all options.

Also even your display above has too many options under Wheaton

huh? I don't know anything about Wheaton

This is the data from the options and it shows that all schools are under capacity in all models.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

You’ve been beating this drum for months. Plenty of Wheaton capacity under all options.

Also even your display above has too many options under Wheaton

DP but I think you are agreeing with the PP. All schools are under-capacity under all options.

Wheaton's capacity is 2220 and only F is below that number. They say they will a fifth of Wheaton students to Edison for CTE programs to address that which is bizarre because Edison isn't a high school, it offers part-time programs and is open to students from all schools.not just Wheaton.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

You’ve been beating this drum for months. Plenty of Wheaton capacity under all options.

Also even your display above has too many options under Wheaton

DP but I think you are agreeing with the PP. All schools are under-capacity under all options.

Wheaton's capacity is 2220 and only F is below that number. They say they will a fifth of Wheaton students to Edison for CTE programs to address that which is bizarre because Edison isn't a high school, it offers part-time programs and is open to students from all schools.not just Wheaton.

+1 If there's a lot of spare space at Edison that they're planning to convert into classrooms for Wheaton, that would be one thing. But they haven't said that, or anything about building an addition, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

Wheaton has 8 in your chart but everyone else has 7 . Is there an option G for Wheaton? No

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Anonymous wrote:Increasing FARMS at Whitman by 3% is funny though....it's like they had to try something...

Ridiculous to change two elementary school communities and move students out of walk zones for this very minimal increase that has no impact on the original focus of the boundary study. Option F does not make sense.

Option F won't happen.

They could easily do option F but switch the BCC and Whitman elementary schools back to where they are now, but still keep the east county benefits of option F. As someone from Silver Spring I'm fine with that if it's what the school communities involved want.

Agree. Would encourage west county folks to vote for F and if this is their sticking point to mention it. F is clearly the best option for east county with minimal negative impact on west county (IMO).

I’m sorry but MCPS has been so horrible about taking feedback that I would personally never vote for F with a footnote hoping they make that minor, common sense adjustment. After the fiasco of what’s been going on with the regional plan, I just don’t trust them. My gut is if the majority vote for F, they will go forward with F as it is presented. I am not from Wood Acres or Bethesda Elementary, so not directly affected. But I’ve been around long enough to predict their actions and it is ridiculous that they would bus kids in a walk zone for no significant reason especially since all 6 other options do not, and are perfectly viable.

All other 6 options are viable for you, but they leave the highest FARMS schools overcrowded.

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity

Wheaton has 8 in your chart but everyone else has 7 . Is there an option G for Wheaton? No

just a typo

The capacity for each high school for models a to g is:

BCC (89, 89, 89, 89, 90, 89, 89)
Blair (85, 78, 85, 85, 85, 85, 90)
Einstein (93, 93, 85, 93, 83, 82, 79)
WJ (72, 78, 70, 83, 71, 78, 71)
Kennedy (90, 90, 90, 83, 90, 90, 90)
Northwood (81, 91, 86, 81, 88, 89, 86)
Wheaton* (95, 95, 95, 86, 95, 81, 95)
Whitman (83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 84, 83)
Woodward (80, 74, 81, 86, 81, 91, 81)

* added 500 seats to capacity