In that case, I stand corrected. |
Right. Is she soft and cozy? No. Is she advocating for policies that a) aid her constituents as they need it most, and b) not trying to overthrow the country and/or dismantle our democracy? We're good. I don't want to be like her, but I would appreciate her voice in making policy. Sure. Let's do it. |
Extremely debatable. Katie Porter is one of those candidates that Democrats outside of California have latched onto for some reason, and I genuinely do not get it. This thread is full of people who have no connections to California telling us what to do, with apparently no understanding of her existing popularity. She has been propped up here for a long time. People don’t like her policies. She is not seen as effective. This video is the icing on the cake. - Californian |
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Okay. Can you cite the specific policies that are disliked? I'm open to reading. |
you can remove references to "Katie Porter" and "California" from the above comment and replace them with "Stacy Abrams" and "Georgia" and it would still ring true. People in the DC area get worked into a froth over politicians in other states who really aren't that appealing |
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This is why the Dems are a mess. You dislike Trump (as I do) because he's such a monster, but it's OK if your Dem candidate is another kind of monster cause...well Trump is one? That kind of logic is not logic. It's desperation and lack of imagination.
Who we need is someone good. Good as in talented politician without being a terror. Of course nobody is perfect and most politicians esp. great ones are no saints. But you know how they are good and great? Because they aren't complete morons who look like blatant __. To be someone nobody wants to work for - that's not being good at anything. If you can't figure out how to get people to do stuff without them hating you - you must suck as a politician. I don't know much about her but I know I wouldn't want her running my state. Trump needs to be defeated by someone not like him. He needs to be defeated by someone better. Katie is not any better, maybe different but not better. Trump is on the wrong side of pushing hate and fear but nevertheless, he's clear about his messages and so he does it very well. Dems suck. They suck at just about everything having to do with marketing/comms. They cannot sell ice in the desert. And someone like Katie isn't even someone who should be selling because whatever she's selling, people will come to hate it. People like her aren't good in anything because they are mean spirited folks who are all about themselves. Sooner or later, Trump and her will both find their way to the same place. I worked with a lot of right wing crazies in my day and while I disagreed completely with their politics, like wanted to barf anytime I heard them talk, they were however personally down to earth no joke shockingly remarkably decent folks. You cannot imagine how well they treated people by way of manners and ethically doing right by their staffs and those who they mingled in the work place. The fact that they believed in horrible ideas was ugh, but they always had support in part because as a human being, you didn't mind they were around. I sure as hell don't want to be around Katie! That is a huge difference. |
Okay, then, for Abrams and Georgia -- can you cite those specific policies of hers that are wisdely disliked by constituents? I'm open to reading this, too. |
She is not .05% the monster Trump is. Don’t pretend they are the same. Dems require perfection and republicans have no standards at all. |
DP - does the fact that GOP/MAGA have no decency make someone who isn't GOP/MAGA but acts rude and horribly to those around her (aka Katie) better than GOP/MAGA just because they have different politics? Are they suppose to be a better human being just because they don't identify as MAGA/GOP? What you are suggesting is that there's a double standard between MAGA/GOP to anyone else, regardless of what kind of human being they are and that ALL MAGA/GOP must be evil. Is this right? Because I can tell you as someone who is a liberal, non MAGA/GOP person, I see good and bad people from all walks of life regardless of political beliefs. I would call you laughably hypocritical and hollow for suggesting otherwise. |
NO. Dems require, based on their own beliefs, a higher set of ethical values. If you feel you need to give and protect all, if you want to help all, then you have a strong moral compass. As such, act like you have a strong moral compass v. just talking about wanting it. This is why as a liberal, I am so aghast at the Dem supporters these days. That you can be good does not mean you have to be perfect nor does it mean you can't play "dirty" or be strategic. It means that you are smart. THIS - what Katie is - this is not smart. I would suggest - Dems require intelligence and Republicans have very little of it. Currently, Dems are beyond dumb, and Republicans are so awesome (at messaging )that they got elected the monster that is Trump not once but twice!!!! |
If a politician is far left, is sassy, and has intersectional identities, she will receive national attention. People love the girl boss vibes. |
some girl boss! Abrams got a ton of money from outside of Georgia but lost two major elections. She is out of touch with the people who actually could vote for her |
You forgot about her opponent cheating. I remember the long lines in black districts because they intentionally under supplied machines to dem districts. And the next election where they made it illegal to give people waiting in line for hours food or water. |
Kamala Harris was good. Almost the total opposite of Trump, in fact. But she lost. Not that Katie Porter would do any better, but it's been proven that taking the virtuous route is not a winning plan. |