Taylor swift- 2 hour interview on Travis’s podcast

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Anonymous wrote:Two never-married, relationship-hopping, childless people in their mid 30s are in a relationship with each other for all of 2 years, most of which has been spent tipping off the paps so they can get photographed holding hands every day. And the crazy fanbase calls this a love story, lol. Some of you need to get out more.

The key is if it’s something they want but so many people act like not getting married or not having kids is some failure. It’s not for everyone.

Is it only true love if they’ve been married before and already have children? Weird take.

Im suspicious of the story they are telling too. But taylor at least was in a six year committed relationship (even if she was longing for matty healy during some of it), which i wouldn't call relationship hopping.

TS and TK are way past the age where most people find the love of their life. Either of them could have found a stable partner by now. They are not spouse material, neither for each other no for another person. All of this is a publicity stunt.

They are not most people. Taylor is arguably the most famous person in the world, and one of the richest. TK is a football star. They aren’t two college dropouts working the night shift at the local factory.

Taylor Swift can have kids whenever she wants to. Even if she is 54, she has the money and can get a surrogate. Even if this gets outlawed in the USA, Taylor Swift has enough money that will be able to have biological children with a surrogate from another country if she wants to.

That said, isn’t she a college dropout? Was she homeschooled in high school?

Ah yes, zero risks at all to IVF, extracting eggs, freezing eggs, using surrogates, and having babies in your 50s. Swift could die of cancer in a few years. Kelce could have early onset dementia in five years. How genius is that plan to have kids in her 50s going to be then? Life is short and these two are old and still acting like they're 20. It's cringe.

DP. What I find "cringe" is your bizarre insistence that 35 is somehow old. Seriously? You must be very, very immature to think something like that.

They both turn 36 in a couple of months. They're old. If this was true love they'd be hitched and she'd be pregnant by now. It's all a grift.

Why do people act like getting married and having children is a. Everyone’s goal, and b. Some kind of special achievement? Neither are.

Thank you. I’ve never understood this myself, like they’ve failed without marriage or children. My thought is that people that don’t want kids don’t want a 24 hour job and I get it.

I don't disagree overall but it's really not a 24/7 job if you're a literal billionaire. You'll have a staff caring for them. It's hardly difficult to make it work (at that level), if it's something you want.

Some people act like it’s some life failure to not want marriage or kids.

It is. And it’s literally all she sings about for the last 20 years.

Except it’s literally not. She has a ton of songs where she just makes blatant sexual references and there is no mention of being a wife or mom.

yea the vast majority are just love songs or love lost songs. I can only think of a few that even mention WANTING to get married, which as I said is different than wanting to be a w.ife and mother.

I vastly prefer a serial monogamist to a serial wife. It's probably a moral failing of mine, but I'm judgy about multiple divorces. Multiple long-term boyfriends seems more acceptable. No official vows broken and more importantly ridiculous marriage ceremonies that in retrospect are embarrassing because you couldn't mean it.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

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Anonymous wrote:Two never-married, relationship-hopping, childless people in their mid 30s are in a relationship with each other for all of 2 years, most of which has been spent tipping off the paps so they can get photographed holding hands every day. And the crazy fanbase calls this a love story, lol. Some of you need to get out more.

The key is if it’s something they want but so many people act like not getting married or not having kids is some failure. It’s not for everyone.

Is it only true love if they’ve been married before and already have children? Weird take.

Im suspicious of the story they are telling too. But taylor at least was in a six year committed relationship (even if she was longing for matty healy during some of it), which i wouldn't call relationship hopping.

TS and TK are way past the age where most people find the love of their life. Either of them could have found a stable partner by now. They are not spouse material, neither for each other no for another person. All of this is a publicity stunt.

They are not most people. Taylor is arguably the most famous person in the world, and one of the richest. TK is a football star. They aren’t two college dropouts working the night shift at the local factory.

Taylor Swift can have kids whenever she wants to. Even if she is 54, she has the money and can get a surrogate. Even if this gets outlawed in the USA, Taylor Swift has enough money that will be able to have biological children with a surrogate from another country if she wants to.

That said, isn’t she a college dropout? Was she homeschooled in high school?

Ah yes, zero risks at all to IVF, extracting eggs, freezing eggs, using surrogates, and having babies in your 50s. Swift could die of cancer in a few years. Kelce could have early onset dementia in five years. How genius is that plan to have kids in her 50s going to be then? Life is short and these two are old and still acting like they're 20. It's cringe.

DP. What I find "cringe" is your bizarre insistence that 35 is somehow old. Seriously? You must be very, very immature to think something like that.

They both turn 36 in a couple of months. They're old. If this was true love they'd be hitched and she'd be pregnant by now. It's all a grift.

Why do people act like getting married and having children is a. Everyone’s goal, and b. Some kind of special achievement? Neither are.

Thank you. I’ve never understood this myself, like they’ve failed without marriage or children. My thought is that people that don’t want kids don’t want a 24 hour job and I get it.

I don't disagree overall but it's really not a 24/7 job if you're a literal billionaire. You'll have a staff caring for them. It's hardly difficult to make it work (at that level), if it's something you want.

Some people act like it’s some life failure to not want marriage or kids.

It is. And it’s literally all she sings about for the last 20 years.

Is that why so many people get divorced? They thought it was a failure not to get married so they marry the wrong person just to get divorced later? This is a terrible goal to push.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

OK. Maybe it's not. Who the F cares? It's their choice.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

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Anonymous wrote:Two never-married, relationship-hopping, childless people in their mid 30s are in a relationship with each other for all of 2 years, most of which has been spent tipping off the paps so they can get photographed holding hands every day. And the crazy fanbase calls this a love story, lol. Some of you need to get out more.

The key is if it’s something they want but so many people act like not getting married or not having kids is some failure. It’s not for everyone.

Is it only true love if they’ve been married before and already have children? Weird take.

Im suspicious of the story they are telling too. But taylor at least was in a six year committed relationship (even if she was longing for matty healy during some of it), which i wouldn't call relationship hopping.

TS and TK are way past the age where most people find the love of their life. Either of them could have found a stable partner by now. They are not spouse material, neither for each other no for another person. All of this is a publicity stunt.

They are not most people. Taylor is arguably the most famous person in the world, and one of the richest. TK is a football star. They aren’t two college dropouts working the night shift at the local factory.

Taylor Swift can have kids whenever she wants to. Even if she is 54, she has the money and can get a surrogate. Even if this gets outlawed in the USA, Taylor Swift has enough money that will be able to have biological children with a surrogate from another country if she wants to.

That said, isn’t she a college dropout? Was she homeschooled in high school?

Ah yes, zero risks at all to IVF, extracting eggs, freezing eggs, using surrogates, and having babies in your 50s. Swift could die of cancer in a few years. Kelce could have early onset dementia in five years. How genius is that plan to have kids in her 50s going to be then? Life is short and these two are old and still acting like they're 20. It's cringe.

DP. What I find "cringe" is your bizarre insistence that 35 is somehow old. Seriously? You must be very, very immature to think something like that.

They both turn 36 in a couple of months. They're old. If this was true love they'd be hitched and she'd be pregnant by now. It's all a grift.

Why do people act like getting married and having children is a. Everyone’s goal, and b. Some kind of special achievement? Neither are.

Thank you. I’ve never understood this myself, like they’ve failed without marriage or children. My thought is that people that don’t want kids don’t want a 24 hour job and I get it.

I don't disagree overall but it's really not a 24/7 job if you're a literal billionaire. You'll have a staff caring for them. It's hardly difficult to make it work (at that level), if it's something you want.

Some people act like it’s some life failure to not want marriage or kids.

It is. And it’s literally all she sings about for the last 20 years.

That's preposterously absurd. It's simply a choice, one way or the other. You suck, actually.

What's absurd is to make corny songs about love, romantic relationships, and sadness about breakups as part of your public persona, while in your real life you conduct yourself as someone who has no interest in stable romantic relationships. In your mid 30s it becomes total cringe to hop from shomance to shomance for the teeny boppers. Everything has a self-life and this shtick ages like milk. Why not be honest and make music about being a party girl who is never going to be tied down by a man. That would be cool and authentic.

Are you twelve? You've got to be a middle schooler. At any rate, you're aware her last relationship, prior to Travis Kelce, lasted SIX years? I'd call that a stable romantic relationship. And it's highly amusing that she lives rent-free in your vapid, cavernous head. I tend to ignore things and people that I can't stand. Not you - you like to obsess over them!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

Um... she is a billionaire who could freeze her eggs (no doubt, she already has) or use a surrogate. Don't you fret about her fertility. She's a smart person and you're talking about her as if she's some ditzy moron who couldn't possibly be aware of her biological clock.

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I pointedly skip threads about people I loathe, but clearly different strokes for some of you.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

Um... she is a billionaire who could freeze her eggs (no doubt, she already has) or use a surrogate. Don't you fret about her fertility. She's a smart person and you're talking about her as if she's some ditzy moron who couldn't possibly be aware of her biological clock.

Female medical doctors are in denial about their biological clocks and fertility, so yeah, it’s hardly unlikely some uneducated pop star has her head in the sand. She’s also a 35 year who carries on like she’s an arrested development teenager.

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Anonymous wrote:I pointedly skip threads about people I loathe, but clearly different strokes for some of you.

You are free to request the deletion of this thread and go carry on a nutty echo chamber in one of the countless Taylor Swiftie websites and forums out there. If you make a thread on DCUM you invite dialog from all sides.

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Why does every single thread about Taylor Swift dissolve into a conversation about her fertility?! The way some of you have to justify your life choices is pathetic. Give it a rest already.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s certainly not a failure to not want to get married and have children… but she has always talked about her future as a wife and mother so it’s really weird that some of you are insisting that’s not something she wants at some point in her life. She is only 35 yet some of you are acting like she’s a post menopausal woman. She can have kids whenever she is damn well ready.

I know every deluded girl boss in D.C. lies to themselves that 35 and 36 (which TS will be in 3 months) is not old but fertility at that age is already nearly extinguished and any hypothetical pregnancy is a high-risk geriatric. "Geriatric pregnancy, also known as advanced maternal age, refers to pregnancy in women aged 35 and older."

She and TK are old. More than old enough to know long before two years of dating if they're going to marry or not. Have kids with each other or not.

This is all 100% fake to milk the public.

Um... she is a billionaire who could freeze her eggs (no doubt, she already has) or use a surrogate. Don't you fret about her fertility. She's a smart person and you're talking about her as if she's some ditzy moron who couldn't possibly be aware of her biological clock.

Female medical doctors are in denial about their biological clocks and fertility, so yeah, it’s hardly unlikely some uneducated pop star has her head in the sand. She’s also a 35 year who carries on like she’s an arrested development teenager.

Bless your heart. You really are jealous/upset/mad that she is a smart person with a good head on her shoulders, a kind soul, a stable and supportive family, and $1 billion in the bank. I love that for you!

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Anonymous wrote:Why does every single thread about Taylor Swift dissolve into a conversation about her fertility?! The way some of you have to justify your life choices is pathetic. Give it a rest already.

I think if someone makes money milking the eternal teenager persona it is fair game to make fun of them for being old as hell, when they are in fact old as hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does every single thread about Taylor Swift dissolve into a conversation about her fertility?! The way some of you have to justify your life choices is pathetic. Give it a rest already.

I think if someone makes money milking the eternal teenager persona it is fair game to make fun of them for being old as hell, when they are in fact old as hell.

35 is "old as hell"?

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Anonymous wrote:Two never-married, relationship-hopping, childless people in their mid 30s are in a relationship with each other for all of 2 years, most of which has been spent tipping off the paps so they can get photographed holding hands every day. And the crazy fanbase calls this a love story, lol. Some of you need to get out more.

The key is if it’s something they want but so many people act like not getting married or not having kids is some failure. It’s not for everyone.

Is it only true love if they’ve been married before and already have children? Weird take.

Im suspicious of the story they are telling too. But taylor at least was in a six year committed relationship (even if she was longing for matty healy during some of it), which i wouldn't call relationship hopping.

TS and TK are way past the age where most people find the love of their life. Either of them could have found a stable partner by now. They are not spouse material, neither for each other no for another person. All of this is a publicity stunt.

They are not most people. Taylor is arguably the most famous person in the world, and one of the richest. TK is a football star. They aren’t two college dropouts working the night shift at the local factory.

Taylor Swift can have kids whenever she wants to. Even if she is 54, she has the money and can get a surrogate. Even if this gets outlawed in the USA, Taylor Swift has enough money that will be able to have biological children with a surrogate from another country if she wants to.

That said, isn’t she a college dropout? Was she homeschooled in high school?

Ah yes, zero risks at all to IVF, extracting eggs, freezing eggs, using surrogates, and having babies in your 50s. Swift could die of cancer in a few years. Kelce could have early onset dementia in five years. How genius is that plan to have kids in her 50s going to be then? Life is short and these two are old and still acting like they're 20. It's cringe.

DP. What I find "cringe" is your bizarre insistence that 35 is somehow old. Seriously? You must be very, very immature to think something like that.

They both turn 36 in a couple of months. They're old. If this was true love they'd be hitched and she'd be pregnant by now. It's all a grift.

Why do people act like getting married and having children is a. Everyone’s goal, and b. Some kind of special achievement? Neither are.

Thank you. I’ve never understood this myself, like they’ve failed without marriage or children. My thought is that people that don’t want kids don’t want a 24 hour job and I get it.

I don't disagree overall but it's really not a 24/7 job if you're a literal billionaire. You'll have a staff caring for them. It's hardly difficult to make it work (at that level), if it's something you want.

Some people act like it’s some life failure to not want marriage or kids.

It is. And it’s literally all she sings about for the last 20 years.

That's preposterously absurd. It's simply a choice, one way or the other. You suck, actually.

What's absurd is to make corny songs about love, romantic relationships, and sadness about breakups as part of your public persona, while in your real life you conduct yourself as someone who has no interest in stable romantic relationships. In your mid 30s it becomes total cringe to hop from shomance to shomance for the teeny boppers. Everything has a self-life and this shtick ages like milk. Why not be honest and make music about being a party girl who is never going to be tied down by a man. That would be cool and authentic.

Are you twelve? You've got to be a middle schooler. At any rate, you're aware her last relationship, prior to Travis Kelce, lasted SIX years? I'd call that a stable romantic relationship. And it's highly amusing that she lives rent-free in your vapid, cavernous head. I tend to ignore things and people that I can't stand. Not you - you like to obsess over them!

I am a new postwr replying to you. Just want to point out that her prior relationship didn’t really last SIX years as you said. That’s what Tree Paine wants us all to believe. But if you listen to Taylor’s songs from those years carefully, she was clearly in love and likely hooking up with Matt Healy. I wouldn’t be surprised if her relationship with Joe lasted a couple of years, after which they stayed “together” for the sake of her overcoming her serial dater label and a career boost for Joe. Some of it was during the Covid years too and easy to cover it all up.
Listen to Folklore, Evermore and Midnights. Songs like August, Illicit Affairs, Gold Rush, Cowboy Like Me, Ivy, Maroon, Snow On The Beach make it pretty obvious.