Flash Flood in Texas,

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Yeah. I think that there are trolls impersonating "Democrats" to post horrible things.

We can talk about politics and lament the loss of innocent children in one breath, without being too reactionary. No, these kids wouldn't be alive if Kamala were President. But yes, Republicans have stalled climate change policies for decades, and cumulatively, that sort of thinking will increase the number of deaths from weather events through lack of preparation and planning.

Why did this camp continue to operate on the banks of a powerful river known to flood, and why were the cabins so close to the water, and why did no one pay attention to the first alerts, and why wasn't there a known plan of evacuation? We don't know if continued denials in that particular state, that extreme weather events might be important to prepare for, impacted the planning of the camp organizers. We will never know.

RIP to the victims. It's a tragedy all around.

Apparently for 30+ years there was flooding g if you listened to the parent in the news but they had been lucky. Those bunks should never have been built there and those kids all should have been on higher ground. There were multiple other camps in the area and all those kids were safe. They were playing a dangerous game with these kids lives. This is tragic.

This is not a political discussion. The big issue is there is no female fed help and Trump went golfing this weekend instead of making this a priority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

Step up how? Why don’t you? This was avoidable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

DP. What are the horrible comments?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

[Anonymous]

People are more upset about a natural disaster impacting 20 children than they are when 20 children are shot down innocently in their classrooms. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have family members at Mystic. They are safe now tonight (picked up by their parents after helicoptering out) but very traumatized. I went to camp in the area as well, I know many families with kids in the camps there, and I know numerous locals who run the camps. It is a very tight-knit community that will never be the same.

Save your politics for another forum please.

But we on DCUM and who work in science and research and government have been saying, then shouting, and now SCREAMING, that these very types of events are going to happen more often and with more intensity if human beings do not stop pumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. And we have been mocked and dismissed and ignore for saying this by politicians and their followers. This is EXACTLY the type of scenario we have been talking about and guess what, it’s going to happen over and over and over again and not just to brown people in countries you don’t care about but to your precious little blond Christian girls too. This just happened in Asheville; when is initial going to be “too soon” to talk about why these things are happening?

And it is POLITICS, specifically ignorant Republican politicians, specifically people like Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott, who are stopping any and all efforts to research the issue so we can prevent it from getting worse or roll it back. It is politics that are stripping away the funding for the research and resources needed to figure out how to mitigate the effects of this and save lives. It is politics that are ensuring that people in government and who conduct federally funded research cannot even SAY climate change; cannot even acknowledge that it might exist. And every time you say “now is not the time” and go off to pray and do jack all nothing, or tell others to shut up about it, you are in fact engaged in a political act impeding government providing services to the people it serves. And that is a HUGE political act itself.

So spare us your lectures. We will not shut up because the urgency of the moment demands that we call out every single one of these tragedies as a harbinger of what is coming. And if you don’t want to hear it, you can stay off DCUM because this community has a lot of people who work on these issues and we are incandescent with rage right now at how Republicans have politicized this issue to keep their corporate masters happy and to keep the money flowing. And this is what happens and let us be clear, is going to happen again and again and again and all the Go Fund Mes in the world aren’t going to be enough.

What is wrong with you????

Do you honestly believe this tragedy wouldn’t have happened if Kamala had been elected? What about the Asheville flooding? Was that Biden’s fault?

There is something seriously wrong with people who make a natural disaster and the death of dozens of innocent people, including children, a political statement. There is nothing the Republicans did to cause this or could have realistically done to prevent it, just as there was nothing the Democrats did or didn’t do for the natural disasters that occurred on their watch.

Natural disasters have happened since the beginning of time (remember the dinosaurs) and will happen for the rest of the Earth’s existence.

Instead of fighting over how politics are at fault, let’s just focus on all the families whose lives were absolutely shattered. I cannot imagine what they’re going through.

That PP was objecting to the gross reference to little white blond Christian girls in that post, and I agree that was disgusting.

I am the poster who responded and bolded that language. You are correct. My objection was to the sneering mocking language used to describe approximately 20 children likely killed in a flood.

JFC. No, the language didn’t “mock” the children. That PP was pointing out how the Rs don’t GAF about this when it happens in other countries.

The point is that your privilege will not protect you from extreme weather events caused by climate change but you are SO triggered when anyone suggests this. Kids around the world RIGHT NOW are dying in huge numbers as the result of climate change due to drought, famines, and disease. These countries are not responsible for pumping greenhouse gasses into the environment; we in the US are. And you don’t care about those kids.

Do you care about the people dying of cancer in huge numbers in the cancer cluster in the poor black neighborhood in Memphis where Elon has just jammed through the construction of an AI data center that is going to be pumping out even MORE carcinogens night and day in vast quantities? A data center the community fought and was jammed through by skirting all government oversight and regulation? The suffering and deaths that will cause will make this situation pale in comparison. Where are the posts and prayers for those kids? Well maybe you don’t care, but all of this is coming for you too. THAT is the point. No one is “mocking” these kids. Unstuff your ears and actually listen to what people are trying to warn you about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

DP. What are the horrible comments?

There have been multiple comments where posters say they don't feel bad for the dead girls because their parents are probably Trump supporters. There was also a comment early on referring sarcastically to the girls as "your precious little blond Christian girls" and at least one poster defending it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

I work as a researcher in geographical sciences, focusing on remote sensing. My projects include climate change. I also volunteer and donate to environmental organizations. Care to tell me how you are more “stepped up” than I am now?

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

I think it's disrespectful for you to smash on posters that are trying to support the idea that we should invest in trying to prevent disasters like this. You may disagree but they are not disrespectful in that opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

I guess we could explain that flooding can kill you. Listen, the information was made available. There was a history of flooding. The people running the camp decided to ignore these warnings. If you think having the government running all camps is a solution, I can assure you that the same mistakes would be made.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so sick. These are missing children. Little girls. Other people have been killed, hurt, are missing or have lost everything. I don’t care who anyone voted for. Most of these kids obviously can’t vote. What is actually wrong with you?

If any of you who are gloating over this tragedy or say you don’t have compassion claim to belong to any religion or spiritual community, know that you don’t. Know that you are evil and full of hate.

Who is gloating?. Why are you just sitting there like a bump on a log sad about what happened. Step up a little.

You think ranting on an anonymous message board is "stepping up"?

No, I think taking action to strengthen our data collection our science research, our weather forecasting abilities, our warning systems is stepping up. Prioritizing making investments in knowledge that will help keep our families safe from a catastrophic weather events is stepping up.

What is the difference between a flood watch and a flood warning?. Who is in charge of tracking all of this information and using it to keep everybody safe?.

There are many people out there who avoid getting drowned in a flood or getting hit by lightning or getting into a car accident because of black ice and any number of other dangerous weather phenomenon.

How are they doing it?. Let's invest in making sure everyone can do it.

What does any of that have to do with the horrible comments people have made in this thread?

You're not going to survive well in an anonymous chat form if you don't learn how to identify and ignore trolls.

You are not helpless in the face of this disaster. You can take a look at it and try to understand why it happened. Precisely out of respect for the people that lost their lives

You may disagree that it is worth investing in, and having respect for a robust national weather service and all the infrastructure that it takes to have that. But there is nothing disrespectful in posters expressing that view.

I don't disagree with funding the NWS and having whatever infrastructure is necessary. That has nothing to do with showing basic human decency when referring to these children, who presumably died horrible deaths. Those two things are compatible. You don't have to be an a-hole to support the NWS.