Kilmar coming back

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Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


There is video. The trooper could also testify. Maybe it is not provable, but it looks pretty much like evidence to me.

But, I'm not lawyer.


No kidding!! So maybe stop talking because you’re out of your depth here.


No one here has seen the entirety of the evidence. Everyone is out of their depth.


So I guess that makes it ok to make assumptions and repeat lies. Gotcha.


No. The “everyone” covered that. Calm down.
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Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


Sounds to me like they have a good deal of hard evidence - cell phones, license plate readers, and probably a bunch more.
Doesn't sound at all unprovable to me.

Face it Dems, you have been rooting for a loser and a criminal.


Fascinating that the guy was apparently operating as a high level human trafficker since 2016 and only now has the Trump administration been able to get the necessary evidence together to take him to trial. What was Trump's DOJ doing from 2016 to 2020? And it's such a solid case that a veteran prosecutor in the leftist hotbed of Tennessee has resigned over this amazing and strong case.

This administration would have been better off and would have received tons of support by surging resources to the immigration courts and to putting time and energy towards legally deporting actual criminals.
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Anonymous wrote:Awesome, now may Van Hollen can go sip whiskey in Tennessee with St. Kilmar of Maryland.


You reveal your idiocy by buying into that obvious set up. The dictators count on dumba**es like you!
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I have a felling chargers will be dropped and he wil be deported.
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Anonymous wrote:He is beyond a doubt an MS13 member. He’s also a violent domestic abuser and likely a trafficker. Hope he gets the maximum criminal sentence and is then sent home.


This is why we have due process, including making sure people like you are not on his jury.
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Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


Sounds to me like they have a good deal of hard evidence - cell phones, license plate readers, and probably a bunch more.
Doesn't sound at all unprovable to me.

Face it Dems, you have been rooting for a loser and a criminal.


Fascinating that the guy was apparently operating as a high level human trafficker since 2016 and only now has the Trump administration been able to get the necessary evidence together to take him to trial. What was Trump's DOJ doing from 2016 to 2020? And it's such a solid case that a veteran prosecutor in the leftist hotbed of Tennessee has resigned over this amazing and strong case.

This administration would have been better off and would have received tons of support by surging resources to the immigration courts and to putting time and energy towards legally deporting actual criminals.


Yep, this.
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Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


There is video. The trooper could also testify. Maybe it is not provable, but it looks pretty much like evidence to me.

But, I'm not lawyer.


The DOJ claims he was trafficking people, but there is a filing on record from before the incident with the full disclosure that he was traveling to MD from Texas. Why would someone who was trafficking people notifiy the authorities of the same?


The administration is grasping hard. What an embarrassing week for Trump.


The Tennessee grand jury indictments are very serious. It was not done on a lark. What it really means is that while people like you were screaming due process, the people behind the scenes quietly did some investigating and found out a lot more about the El Salvadoran Kilmar. Which is unfortunate for him, I suppose. Ironically he probably would have been better off quietly accepting the deportation order instead of fighting it. And I wouldn't be surprised if more stuff comes out later, potentially about his activities in El Salvador. He was unquestionably a human trafficker.


If indictments were that serious, Trump would have been ejected from office during his first term and in jail for life now.
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Kilmars lawyers made "BIG MISTAKE" by pushing for his return to U.S.

If he's found guilty, he's gonna spend a long time in prison complaining about his ideological radical lawyers, who made a hero out of him and tried to get him back to the United States when that was not in his own self-interest.

If he's acquitted, they can still bring the deportation charges because the standard of proof is very different in deportation charges ... From the government's point of view, it's a win-win to do it this way.
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Anonymous wrote:Kilmars lawyers made "BIG MISTAKE" by pushing for his return to U.S.

If he's found guilty, he's gonna spend a long time in prison complaining about his ideological radical lawyers, who made a hero out of him and tried to get him back to the United States when that was not in his own self-interest.

If he's acquitted, they can still bring the deportation charges because the standard of proof is very different in deportation charges ... From the government's point of view, it's a win-win to do it this way.


Have you seen the photos of CECOT? Anyplace is better. A US jail. Deportation. The whole point is that they sent him to a hell hole illegally.
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Anonymous wrote:There are 50 Venezuelans who were in the United States legally and have never been accused, much less convicted of any crime, locked up in CECOT.

BRING THEM BACK!


THEY ARENT AMERICANS! We don’t want them.


THEY ARE HUMAN!!!!! I’m American AND I WANT THEM HERE.
I would much rather see you deported.


They have homes.
In their own countries
Anyone here illegally needs to be deported.


after due process, per the US Constitution.


Due process is different for illegals than for citizens. And we have such a thing as expedited removal.

Out they go!

No it is not.


Yeah expedited removal, where they don't go infront of judge doesn't exist

or does it?

Illegal immigrants who have appeared in front a judge and given an order of expedited removal can be deported. Random people on the street who don’t have such an order cannot be sent to a foreign gulag for no reason.


No, for expedited removal, they don't go infront of a judge. It's a faster process than a deportation hearing.

Here's an immigration advocacy group describing the process. Typically in the past it was used at the border, now they're changing how its used.

https://www.nilc.org/resources/know-your-rights-expedited-removal-expansion/

Do illegals at the border have due process if you're defining it as going in front of a judge? It would appear that no, not everyone has due process if you're going by that definition.


You say this like it's nothing. You say it like you don't care about the law or the Constitution or the truth or innocent people being imprisoned.

But many of us do.

Also, some of the people being rounded up are LEGAL. Some of the people in a Salvadoran prison were LEGAL. So anything you have been fed by Stephen Miller about "illegals" does not apply to them anyway.
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Anonymous wrote:Kilmars lawyers made "BIG MISTAKE" by pushing for his return to U.S.

If he's found guilty, he's gonna spend a long time in prison complaining about his ideological radical lawyers, who made a hero out of him and tried to get him back to the United States when that was not in his own self-interest.

If he's acquitted, they can still bring the deportation charges because the standard of proof is very different in deportation charges ... From the government's point of view, it's a win-win to do it this way.


He gets due process this way, which is what matters.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


There is video. The trooper could also testify. Maybe it is not provable, but it looks pretty much like evidence to me.

But, I'm not lawyer.


The DOJ claims he was trafficking people, but there is a filing on record from before the incident with the full disclosure that he was traveling to MD from Texas. Why would someone who was trafficking people notifiy the authorities of the same?


The administration is grasping hard. What an embarrassing week for Trump.


The Tennessee grand jury indictments are very serious. It was not done on a lark. What it really means is that while people like you were screaming due process, the people behind the scenes quietly did some investigating and found out a lot more about the El Salvadoran Kilmar. Which is unfortunate for him, I suppose. Ironically he probably would have been better off quietly accepting the deportation order instead of fighting it. And I wouldn't be surprised if more stuff comes out later, potentially about his activities in El Salvador. He was unquestionably a human trafficker.


He is a day laborer driving day laborers. That is not human trafficking. I hope some day you reflect on your party's treatment of human beings. The cruelty is shocking. No one who has any critical thinking skills believes this fabrication.

Murdoch, Trump, DHS and all the followers believe that simply repeating fabrications makes them real. It does not. Some of us care about the truth.
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Is it good or bad when your own internal report contradicts your indictment on a key fact:



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is the only way the administration can bring him back with a wisp of dignity. They've been preparing this for weeks and Pam Bondi rehearsed her speech so she could say it with a straight face. The DOJ lawyer in charge of his case before his deportation was fired, because he told the truth to the judge.

Hopefully justice prevails.



They've trumped up a clearly unproveable human trafficking charge in order to buy time to legally deport him. Added bonus, no one is talking about CECOT anymore.


There is video. The trooper could also testify. Maybe it is not provable, but it looks pretty much like evidence to me.

But, I'm not lawyer.


The DOJ claims he was trafficking people, but there is a filing on record from before the incident with the full disclosure that he was traveling to MD from Texas. Why would someone who was trafficking people notifiy the authorities of the same?


The administration is grasping hard. What an embarrassing week for Trump.


The Tennessee grand jury indictments are very serious. It was not done on a lark. What it really means is that while people like you were screaming due process, the people behind the scenes quietly did some investigating and found out a lot more about the El Salvadoran Kilmar. Which is unfortunate for him, I suppose. Ironically he probably would have been better off quietly accepting the deportation order instead of fighting it. And I wouldn't be surprised if more stuff comes out later, potentially about his activities in El Salvador. He was unquestionably a human trafficker.


He is a day laborer driving day laborers. That is not human trafficking. I hope some day you reflect on your party's treatment of human beings. The cruelty is shocking. No one who has any critical thinking skills believes this fabrication.

Murdoch, Trump, DHS and all the followers believe that simply repeating fabrications makes them real. It does not. Some of us care about the truth.


30 percent of the people he brought in were MS-13 according to the indictment.

And yes, we believe it. You are the same people who insisted he was “Maryland man” and not a gang member with a history of beating his wife.

Guess the left wants to die on this hill.
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Anonymous wrote:Kilmars lawyers made "BIG MISTAKE" by pushing for his return to U.S.

If he's found guilty, he's gonna spend a long time in prison complaining about his ideological radical lawyers, who made a hero out of him and tried to get him back to the United States when that was not in his own self-interest.

If he's acquitted, they can still bring the deportation charges because the standard of proof is very different in deportation charges ... From the government's point of view, it's a win-win to do it this way.


He gets due process this way, which is what matters.


He always had due process. He had and continues to have a lawful removal order. He either goes to jail here before going to El Salvador, or he gets deported once again (probably back to El Salvador if extradited for crimes there).
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