Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

The PP seems to agree that the reaction is due to the family's media presence.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

The PP seems to agree that the reaction is due to the family's media presence.

But some of the PP are saying they never even heard of her until this blew up. So why care about the media presence after the fact?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

1. They don't want to--people can choose who they want to talk about

Or

2. They don't know about the other cases

Or

3. The influencer wants us to talk about her life in other aspects so why not this? She is getting what she asked for

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

She is going to reply and say she finds that "odd" as well. What she doesn't want=odd. That the new definition of the word.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

I have seen people talking about this everywhere on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

No, I don’t follow influencers. I learned about this case on Reddit.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

No, I don’t follow influencers. I learned about this case on Reddit.

So, someone you had never heard of had something tragic happened to them and now you desperately want to talk about it? What’s your real agenda?

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Anonymous wrote:When you use your children as props for financial gain, and put yourself out there as this ideal family to be envied and emulated, its only natural for people to feel some amount of schadenfreude when it all turns out to be for show.

They were fine with, and even sought and encouraged, all the attention when it was lining their pockets. Will be interesting to see if they try to use influencing as an income stream going forward or not.

Did you follow Emilie before this happened? Just curious.

I’m not PP but another interested poster, and I did not, I don’t follow anyone on TikTok, or influencers. I found out about her through Reddit, and BECAUSE of their lawsuit for special treatment.

Like the Coldplay dive of shame, she drew attention to the horrifying nature of the report. She streisanded herself don’t blame people who look where she pointed.

Agree. Wouldn’t know who this woman was if sure hadn’t made a big fuss about redactions and dodging convictions and such that made her family newsworthy for months.

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Anonymous wrote:When you use your children as props for financial gain, and put yourself out there as this ideal family to be envied and emulated, its only natural for people to feel some amount of schadenfreude when it all turns out to be for show.

They were fine with, and even sought and encouraged, all the attention when it was lining their pockets. Will be interesting to see if they try to use influencing as an income stream going forward or not.

Did you follow Emilie before this happened? Just curious.

"Following" is just as meaningless as saving a web fsvorite. Influences made themselves public figures, so no, you implications that no one can speak about her unless they clicked a button to add her to a web fsvorite is preposterous.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

No, I don’t follow influencers. I learned about this case on Reddit.

So, someone you had never heard of had something tragic happened to them and now you desperately want to talk about it? What’s your real agenda?

Yes, yes I do.

I want to talk about it.

That IS the agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

No, I don’t follow influencers. I learned about this case on Reddit.

So, someone you had never heard of had something tragic happened to them and now you desperately want to talk about it? What’s your real agenda?

--No one is desperate.
--We talk about circumstances and people that are new to us everyday, that we learn about in the, wait for it, NEWs.
--The agenda is to talk about the circumstance.

Do you really think you can ask a million rhetorical questions all day and make people stop talking? No, you can't. You have no ability to shame others into doing what you want.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

The PP seems to agree that the reaction is due to the family's media presence.

But some of the PP are saying they never even heard of her until this blew up. So why care about the media presence after the fact?

Because they do care. And they can care.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

OK, so let’s assume that connection. Why are people not talking about other kids who drowned and breathless and full of schadenfruede/disdain about how/why their parents were negligent?

Because no one else invited 1M+ strangers into their private lives.

If you are one of the followers, you’re part of the problem.

No, I don’t follow influencers. I learned about this case on Reddit.

I am actively anti influencer and believe these family and mommy bloggers are doing irreparable damage to their own and to other families. They sell image and discourage actual presence- in their watchers and by the creators- and all of the children suffer by having distracted parents living lives in their phones instead of in their living room- present in body if not in mind or spirit- or attention.

This popped up in my Reddit feed because it was both trending and on point with my beliefs around influencers. I still don’t follow Emilie or any other influencer and I still think this is a subject worth discussing.

These people made a living - and a very profitable one- by opening up their children, skin care routines, relationships, and (apparently) their urination emergencies. They bought that pool - the one that killed their child- with viewer clicks.

Why do you want the national interest to center around little sally who drowned in Bethesda and is Mourned by her family and neighbors because who else knows a 3 year old? That child will have privacy because their parents gave them privacy.

Trigg unfortunately did not get privacy in life- turning his death into a circus.

Only two people are responsible for that indisputable fact- his mother and father.

They ask strangers to award him privacy in death yet they didn’t allow him a moment of privacy in life.