Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a photo of the pool? I'm having trouble envisioning what's so great about it that a fence would ruin its aesthetics. I don't think I've ever seen a pool without a fence -- and we have some fairly wealthy friends.

I think you and some other posters may be confused about the fence terminology. Of course they had a their entire backyard including the pool fenced - like a tall wooden stockade fence - to keep random toddlers from wandering in from the neighborhood and drowning in their pool. This is what local jurisdictions and homeowners insurance policies universally require. What they did not have was a pool fence between the deck and the actual water, which keeps toddlers wandering out of the house from drowning in their pool. When their kids were little my SIL’s family had one like this, but shorter:

Wow, aesthetically, that is so ugly. I understand the hesitancy to install something like that.

[Anonymous]

They had a “katchakid” pool net which is considered a good safety net so in theory they didn’t need the fence.

But the net only works if it’s on the pool, and that day it wasn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a photo of the pool? I'm having trouble envisioning what's so great about it that a fence would ruin its aesthetics. I don't think I've ever seen a pool without a fence -- and we have some fairly wealthy friends.

I think you and some other posters may be confused about the fence terminology. Of course they had a their entire backyard including the pool fenced - like a tall wooden stockade fence - to keep random toddlers from wandering in from the neighborhood and drowning in their pool. This is what local jurisdictions and homeowners insurance policies universally require. What they did not have was a pool fence between the deck and the actual water, which keeps toddlers wandering out of the house from drowning in their pool. When their kids were little my SIL’s family had one like this, but shorter:

Wow, aesthetically, that is so ugly. I understand the hesitancy to install something like that.

Ugly > death child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a photo of the pool? I'm having trouble envisioning what's so great about it that a fence would ruin its aesthetics. I don't think I've ever seen a pool without a fence -- and we have some fairly wealthy friends.

I think you and some other posters may be confused about the fence terminology. Of course they had a their entire backyard including the pool fenced - like a tall wooden stockade fence - to keep random toddlers from wandering in from the neighborhood and drowning in their pool. This is what local jurisdictions and homeowners insurance policies universally require. What they did not have was a pool fence between the deck and the actual water, which keeps toddlers wandering out of the house from drowning in their pool. When their kids were little my SIL’s family had one like this, but shorter:

Wow, aesthetically, that is so ugly. I understand the hesitancy to install something like that.

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Wow, what a crappy set of values you have. If you have small children, you put a safety fence around the pool. Also most of the fences I see aren't as ugly as this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

How much are you paid by this family?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

[Anonymous]

Did they test the dad for drugs or alcohol? So many man children are high all day off those thc vape pens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

The PP isn’t standing with a bullhorn outside their house. She would need to actively seek these opinions out. When you willfully disregard basic safety despite having the time and means to do so you should expect public scorn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

The PP isn’t standing with a bullhorn outside their house. She would need to actively seek these opinions out. When you willfully disregard basic safety despite having the time and means to do so you should expect public scorn.

I would think having to suffer the loss of your child will do. These people are undoubtedly not reading any of this “scorn” PP hopes to heap on them. They got to bury a dead child, I’m pretty sure the message was received. This is just some weird catharsis for some to think the parents will actually read this (they won’t).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

The PP isn’t standing with a bullhorn outside their house. She would need to actively seek these opinions out. When you willfully disregard basic safety despite having the time and means to do so you should expect public scorn.

I would think having to suffer the loss of your child will do. These people are undoubtedly not reading any of this “scorn” PP hopes to heap on them. They got to bury a dead child, I’m pretty sure the message was received. This is just some weird catharsis for some to think the parents will actually read this (they won’t).

Believe it or not there are A LOT of people who care more about public perception than the death of their child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

As you stated- they probably won’t read it so how is discussing the private death of a public figure (she had 4m followers!) piling on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah I cannot believe the hate these parents are getting. It is crazy. But then I never feel that sort of hate/hysteria that people feel toward parents who have a tragic accident, hot car deaths, etc. for which they are responsible even though accidental.

Parents get criminally charged for hot car deaths all the time. Someone even mentioned another Arizona dad who was charged for a hot car death this year in this thread. Not sure what point you are trying to make but depending on the circumstances many accidents do rise to the level of negligence.

I am not speaking about legality or criminality. I am talking about basic compassion, or at least not piling on parents at their lowest of the low points in their lives.

And yet when we have easily preventable deaths, especially of innocent children, it does not seem like the pain of other bereaved parents is enough to discourage negligent behavior of other parents. So here we are.

So your job is piling on. Got it.

The PP isn’t standing with a bullhorn outside their house. She would need to actively seek these opinions out. When you willfully disregard basic safety despite having the time and means to do so you should expect public scorn.

I would think having to suffer the loss of your child will do. These people are undoubtedly not reading any of this “scorn” PP hopes to heap on them. They got to bury a dead child, I’m pretty sure the message was received. This is just some weird catharsis for some to think the parents will actually read this (they won’t).

Believe it or not there are A LOT of people who care more about public perception than the death of their child.

Especially when the public perception includes an "aesthetic" that makes them money and can't be ruined by the looks of a life-saving fence.