Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Does the public really need to see video footage of the child drowning??? No, they don't.

She is trying to block the death certificate, the 911 call, and the police report. All things that are routinely released in court proceedings, etc. At any point in her life prior to this happening, she would have viewed this much interest in her as a reflection of her awesomeness and her being a “girl boss.”

If my child died, the public would not care because I don’t put my life out there on sale for the world. She does.

But yes, you are right I absolutely loathe influencers and struggle to find any empathy when things go poorly for them. My first thought was that she was probably filming/editing/prepping while her unattended three year old wandered outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: So many of these influencers do incredibly dangerous things and show it off which risks having others emulate them. I have seen things like riding bikes as a family and nobody has helmets including the baby in a bike with mom, allowing toddlers way too close to a pool and the only person who seems to be around is mommy who is filming something else and just happens to catch this, allowing a baby to poke a large dog in the face and be rough and more. Anytime the adoring fans bring up concerns I see defensiveness or blocking.

So, if this was negligence they are covering up, then I actually think they do harm blocking it UNLESS one child pushed the other into the water or accidentally did something. It is never the fault of a child who should be closely supervised, but I absolutely would want that child protected.

Rumor has it one influencer family once played with Jarts…

[Anonymous]

It sounds like OP is trying to hide something...interesting.

[Anonymous]

Apparently, before the child drowned, there were lots of comments on her posts telling her to fence her pool and she DELETED them. So the idea that she can just delete “bad” content like the 911 call or body cam footage is par for the course.

She also has videos showing that her young child knew how to open the door leading to the pool, by himself.

I have nothing against this influencer and I am sad for her. But in general, the public’s inappropriate and unhealthy interest in this child’s death is a direct result of the “content” she put out there. Influencers are harmful to society IMHO.


And most of all, influencers are harmful to themselves. She will no doubt film some long series talking about what happened, her grief, etc. And it will be monetized and those videos will make a bunch of money. Will she set up a foundation in honor of her child? Will she become a crusader of water safety? Or will she simply buy a bigger house and a nicer car? My money is on the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, before the child drowned, there were lots of comments on her posts telling her to fence her pool and she DELETED them. So the idea that she can just delete “bad” content like the 911 call or body cam footage is par for the course.

She also has videos showing that her young child knew how to open the door leading to the pool, by himself.

I have nothing against this influencer and I am sad for her. But in general, the public’s inappropriate and unhealthy interest in this child’s death is a direct result of the “content” she put out there. Influencers are harmful to society IMHO.


And most of all, influencers are harmful to themselves. She will no doubt film some long series talking about what happened, her grief, etc. And it will be monetized and those videos will make a bunch of money. Will she set up a foundation in honor of her child? Will she become a crusader of water safety? Or will she simply buy a bigger house and a nicer car? My money is on the latter.

I agree once the dust settles she will monetize it for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, before the child drowned, there were lots of comments on her posts telling her to fence her pool and she DELETED them. So the idea that she can just delete “bad” content like the 911 call or body cam footage is par for the course.

She also has videos showing that her young child knew how to open the door leading to the pool, by himself.

I have nothing against this influencer and I am sad for her. But in general, the public’s inappropriate and unhealthy interest in this child’s death is a direct result of the “content” she put out there. Influencers are harmful to society IMHO.


And most of all, influencers are harmful to themselves. She will no doubt film some long series talking about what happened, her grief, etc. And it will be monetized and those videos will make a bunch of money. Will she set up a foundation in honor of her child? Will she become a crusader of water safety? Or will she simply buy a bigger house and a nicer car? My money is on the latter.

I agree once the dust settles she will monetize it for sure.

+1. I’m sure she loved her son. But when your entire “career” consists of making videos for the sole purpose of making money, it’s probably second nature to her.

I actually think it’d be really hard to be an influencer. Your entire existence, your purpose, is putting a camera on your kids and yourself. And then editing it to present a very unrealistic picture of your life aimed solely at making the most money. How absolutely meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see all monetizing of children online or on TV reality shows to be covered by the same regulations as child actors and professional agency sponsored child models, including require Coogan Accounts for any funds generated by minor content

+1
I read that there are photos of the boy who drowned. If I were his mother I would absolutely sue to have the release of the photos blocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would like to see all monetizing of children online or on TV reality shows to be covered by the same regulations as child actors and professional agency sponsored child models, including require Coogan Accounts for any funds generated by minor content

+1
I read that there are photos of the boy who drowned. If I were his mother I would absolutely sue to have the release of the photos blocked.

I agree no one needs to see photos or videos. But why block the police report? Unless you have something to hide.

[Anonymous]

I think blocking photos and videos of the death of any child is appropriate but the 911 calls and police reports are usually public knowledge. I am guessing she was being negligent, maybe filming or something, an doesn’t and the details released, specially given the criticism.
She had already gotten before he died about the pool not being fenced and the child being able to open the door to the deck.
Her other child is only 2 months old so she is also dealing with postpartum related issues at the moment.

[Anonymous]

This was posted on the other thread, anyone know of it’s legit?

I heard dad was at home with him but mom was the one that called 911 because dad didn’t answer when mom called him after she saw the alert from the pool camera on her phone. Wonder what dad was doing that he missed his kid drowning AND can’t answer the phone when his wife calls?

[Anonymous]

No, but also, death records of children shouldn't be made available to the public, IMO. That goes for all children.

But also, how much does Emilie wish she'd gone with the ugly, un-aesthetic pool fence right about now?

I wonder if she even has homeowners insurance. I had to provide so much proof of my safety items (fence height, childproof locks) before I could get insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

[Anonymous]

I think the hate towards mom influencers is way out of proportion.

Look, we’ve set up a society where moms are expected to stay home and parent 24/7, yes also expected to contribute 50% of the finances. Most men cannot afford to provide for a family on their salary alone. Some moms found a way to both stay home and make money. Good for them. I’m not going to fault them for finding a solution in a nearly impossible set of circumstances.

People also think the life of an influencer is easy. Take some pictures, post videos. It’s not. It is a grind. Landing one brand deal takes weeks if not months.