Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

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I have no issue with the 2 pages describing his body being redacted. We can get a picture of what happened without the graphic details of a child dying.

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Anonymous wrote:When you use your children as props for financial gain, and put yourself out there as this ideal family to be envied and emulated, its only natural for people to feel some amount of schadenfreude when it all turns out to be for show.

They were fine with, and even sought and encouraged, all the attention when it was lining their pockets. Will be interesting to see if they try to use influencing as an income stream going forward or not.

Did you follow Emilie before this happened? Just curious.

I’m not PP but another interested poster, and I did not, I don’t follow anyone on TikTok, or influencers. I found out about her through Reddit, and BECAUSE of their lawsuit for special treatment.

Like the Coldplay dive of shame, she drew attention to the horrifying nature of the report. She streisanded herself don’t blame people who look where she pointed.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone has the right to 'sue to block public records requests'. Everyone has the right to do what this family did, influencers or not. This premise is silly.

Well the judge only saw fit to block two pages and now everyone knows what a dolt the husband is. Even then we all suspected it.

Will be interesting to see if/when she revives her channel.

Right but the question was about their rights. Not sure why they should have fewer rights than anyone else.

Fewer? In an average situation like this, all of the info would have been public record. They have been more protected, not less.

No they haven't. They have used a legal path available to everyone. The question in the OP was should influencers be restricted from using that legal path.

And they were only using it because of crazy stalkers.

LOL crazy stalkers they groomed to love and care about their child and lives in order to profit off of them?

Influencers build their crazies - intentionally. Then they’re victims of that? Nah brah.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:When you use your children as props for financial gain, and put yourself out there as this ideal family to be envied and emulated, its only natural for people to feel some amount of schadenfreude when it all turns out to be for show.

They were fine with, and even sought and encouraged, all the attention when it was lining their pockets. Will be interesting to see if they try to use influencing as an income stream going forward or not.

Did you follow Emilie before this happened? Just curious.

I’m not PP but another interested poster, and I did not, I don’t follow anyone on TikTok, or influencers. I found out about her through Reddit, and BECAUSE of their lawsuit for special treatment.

Like the Coldplay dive of shame, she drew attention to the horrifying nature of the report. She streisanded herself don’t blame people who look where she pointed.

Kindly, go touch grass.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with the 2 pages describing his body being redacted. We can get a picture of what happened without the graphic details of a child dying.

She wanted a lot more sealed. This is just all the judge gave her. I'm sure they wanted to seal all the stuff saying her husband was gambling online and watching NBA playoffs while his child was alone in a pool for 7 minutes, the first two of which he managed to stay alive.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with the 2 pages describing his body being redacted. We can get a picture of what happened without the graphic details of a child dying.

She wanted a lot more sealed. This is just all the judge gave her. I'm sure they wanted to seal all the stuff saying her husband was gambling online and watching NBA playoffs while his child was alone in a pool for 7 minutes, the first two of which he managed to stay alive.

I mean, I would want that sealed too if people were going as far as sending drones over my house and calling hospitals and scouring court records to see what is going on.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

The boy drowned because his parents failed to keep him safe. Said parents invited the public into the boys home. Said public is not talking about said parents, who you defend, while apparently sitting in the grass with your self righteousness intact.

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*is now talking about. Not *not

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

The boy drowned because his parents failed to keep him safe. Said parents invited the public into the boys home. Said public is not talking about said parents, who you defend, while apparently sitting in the grass with your self righteousness intact.

Who is defending the parents? If the mom was filming content with her back turned to the boy when he fell in the pool, you might actually have a a point. Otherwise this happens to parents of all walks of life, or am I missing a sudden spate of drownings of influencer kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with the 2 pages describing his body being redacted. We can get a picture of what happened without the graphic details of a child dying.

She wanted a lot more sealed. This is just all the judge gave her. I'm sure they wanted to seal all the stuff saying her husband was gambling online and watching NBA playoffs while his child was alone in a pool for 7 minutes, the first two of which he managed to stay alive.

I mean, I would want that sealed too if people were going as far as sending drones over my house and calling hospitals and scouring court records to see what is going on.

I would want it sealed too even without drones and whatnot- because I’d know it made my husband and I look like terrible parents. I’d know that it makes my husband look negligent. I’d know that the wrath of public opinion- on which I based by career- was about to turn wildly against me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with the 2 pages describing his body being redacted. We can get a picture of what happened without the graphic details of a child dying.

She wanted a lot more sealed. This is just all the judge gave her. I'm sure they wanted to seal all the stuff saying her husband was gambling online and watching NBA playoffs while his child was alone in a pool for 7 minutes, the first two of which he managed to stay alive.

I mean, I would want that sealed too if people were going as far as sending drones over my house and calling hospitals and scouring court records to see what is going on.

I would want it sealed too even without drones and whatnot- because I’d know it made my husband and I look like terrible parents. I’d know that it makes my husband look negligent. I’d know that the wrath of public opinion- on which I based by career- was about to turn wildly against me.

Well yeah, by people who are too invested and revel in some comeuppance of mom influencers. Her concern was justified it seems.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

I have seen people talking about this everywhere on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

And? You really want people here to stop talking about this but they don't have to just because you say so.

It’s more than a little odd that people here are obsessed with a months old accidental drowning in Arizona.

Nah, it’s not odd. The details of the report were just released Friday and paint a vivid and haunting image of a three year old struggling for his life, for two full minutes, while dad watches basketball. The report clearly shows a lying, coward of a
Father. And a lovely dead child, and a
Mother who had been warned many times yet disregarded common wisdom and paid the ultimate price. Career, child, marriage- gone like POOF.

What more do you want? I think they got their comeuppance. But the “rage” some of you are feeling is misplaced. It’s sad but they are the ones who have to live with the consequences.

I just want to be able to discuss it with others without being lectured by you, since you asked.

I dont feel rage. I do think it’s an interesting discussion. We will one day look back in awe that people opened their homes and children up for public consumption.

This has nothing to do with why that boy drowned. You’re trying to make a connection that doesn’t exist.

(DP) I actually think there is a connection between her being an influencer and him drowning. I think she resisted adding pool safety features because they were not aesthetically pleasing and therefore would impact the popularity of her videos. She needed to have the “perfect” house, which is simply not conducive to water safety. Architecture Digest isn’t photography ugly pool covers or awkward pool fences.

It’s undisputed that she deleted and blocked comments that she needed better pool safety protocols in light of her son. Why would she intentionally delete those comments?

It’s already been discussed what pool safety measures the house had and it isn’t none. This pool had a cover, it just wasn’t in use.