RTO:Traffic is atrocious

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

My commute is 30 min but I won’t give this administration more than 8hrs of work. I used to work 8-10hrs at home.

good for you, don't expect a promotion or raise

[Anonymous]

Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

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Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

My commute is 30 min but I won’t give this administration more than 8hrs of work. I used to work 8-10hrs at home.

good for you, don't expect a promotion or raise

I have zero expectations from this administration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I had a rush hour commute back when there was no telecommuting and zero WFH most people my office arrived before peak rush hour and left after peak rush hour.

I was in my office around 745 am to 630pm daily. I could not come in late or leave early.

It was way more productive in person, if I tine travel to 1999 our whole 1,000 person office was working 10-11 hours a day.

Was it hard and horrible? Yes. Was it crazy productive for employer, Yes

People needing to work 11 hours a day is indicative of how low productivity was.

Not really. My 40 person department after WFH, Remote, Dress Down, Flex time was rolled out between 1999 and 2021 went from 40 people to 120 people yet company stayed the same size.

We worked till work was done. Not when your work was done. if we had a quick person they would jump to other jobs. We also had "floaters" meaning you finish your work earlier or have a light day we had cross training we put you in other job or area for day. We also had no internet or cell phones at work and boss could see my screen and keystokes. Having no work was very stressful.

Also mentoring and training was great. Since work had to be done for any of us to go home, we training and mentored new staff right away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had a good run of it for 5 years. Time to get more productivity.

You think people who spend up to 4hrs per day commuting are more productive? Weird. I only have an hour each way and that's still draining to do every day. The point is to burn people out and make them quit, not be more productive.

Why didn't these people buy closer in?

OMG. We bought a mile away...from my spouse's job. I was a remote hire. I did not take this job with the expectation of commuting 5 hours a day.

When did you get hired and what does your offer letter state as work location?

A couple years ago. The job ad stated "remote anywhere in the US" and my offer letter said the work location is my current city, where we already lived near my spouse's job. Good enough for you? Or do you think anyone who ever accepted a remote job was dumb?

If it's the latter, I don't really know what to tell you - stagnating instead of advancing your career or moving away from the in-person spouse's job for a *remote position* don't sound like brilliant choices either. Sometimes people make the best choices they can in their circumstances. But I am sure it makes you feel better to think that nothing unlucky will ever happen to you because you're smarter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I had a rush hour commute back when there was no telecommuting and zero WFH most people my office arrived before peak rush hour and left after peak rush hour.

I was in my office around 745 am to 630pm daily. I could not come in late or leave early.

It was way more productive in person, if I tine travel to 1999 our whole 1,000 person office was working 10-11 hours a day.

Was it hard and horrible? Yes. Was it crazy productive for employer, Yes

People needing to work 11 hours a day is indicative of how low productivity was.

Not really. My 40 person department after WFH, Remote, Dress Down, Flex time was rolled out between 1999 and 2021 went from 40 people to 120 people yet company stayed the same size.

We worked till work was done. Not when your work was done. if we had a quick person they would jump to other jobs. We also had "floaters" meaning you finish your work earlier or have a light day we had cross training we put you in other job or area for day. We also had no internet or cell phones at work and boss could see my screen and keystokes. Having no work was very stressful.

Also mentoring and training was great. Since work had to be done for any of us to go home, we training and mentored new staff right away.

You worked so hard but never learned to write?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amazon, Facebook, most other big tech private companies are RTO. Why should the govt be any different.

Exactly. And the government pays just as well as big tech and tackles the same problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I had a rush hour commute back when there was no telecommuting and zero WFH most people my office arrived before peak rush hour and left after peak rush hour.

I was in my office around 745 am to 630pm daily. I could not come in late or leave early.

It was way more productive in person, if I tine travel to 1999 our whole 1,000 person office was working 10-11 hours a day.

Was it hard and horrible? Yes. Was it crazy productive for employer, Yes

People needing to work 11 hours a day is indicative of how low productivity was.

Not really. My 40 person department after WFH, Remote, Dress Down, Flex time was rolled out between 1999 and 2021 went from 40 people to 120 people yet company stayed the same size.

We worked till work was done. Not when your work was done. if we had a quick person they would jump to other jobs. We also had "floaters" meaning you finish your work earlier or have a light day we had cross training we put you in other job or area for day. We also had no internet or cell phones at work and boss could see my screen and keystokes. Having no work was very stressful.

Also mentoring and training was great. Since work had to be done for any of us to go home, we training and mentored new staff right away.

Talk about Stockholm syndrome for your sweatshop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

Childcare and housing costs way way more compared to incomes and is far more scarce than prior generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

How dare people want to save money? FYI both houses and childcare are way more expensive than before COVID and federal pay has hardly changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are people so obsessed with whether someone ran an errand during the day? Did they get their work done or not? Shouldn't that be all that matters? If they didn't get their work done, they should get in trouble. If they did get their work done, why do you care if they were doing something personally productive rather than sitting in front of a screen like a zombie?

I am a lawyer and the whole omg you didn't sit in front of your screen during all working hours thing is so bizarre to me. I cannot manufacture work and people have varying degrees of efficiency. why should you care if I am meal prepping because I finished up my work early, instead of reading dumb articles on my computer if I were trapped in the office?

because feds aren't really salaried workers. Hours we work actually matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

I don't understand this line of thinking, my kids are teenagers now so I am out of the childcare phase. We had a part time nanny when they were in elementary, we had long commutes at that time and were always frazzled. I don't want others to go through what I did, it was stressful. If younger parents can save some money by WFH and picking up their kids at a reasonable hour, I fully support it, even better if they can spend a bit more time with their kids in the process. As a society we have such individualistic mindset that we don't really care for improving the lives of others if it doesn't in any way improves our lives.

Parents spending more time with their kids is a good thing for society, parents able to save a bit of money is a good thing, parents being less stressful means less dysfunction in families and it is a very good thing for the health of our society. The overall nastiness, rudeness, lack of empathy is a result of dysfunctional families, wake up America and live your family life values in real time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

We have childcare*, but two parents commuting every day means we will have to find a daycare with even longer hours. And pretty much impossible to have dinner together as a family.

* People like to throw around accusations of parents not having childcare, but I literally don't know anyone who was working from home while taking care of a young child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

We have childcare*, but two parents commuting every day means we will have to find a daycare with even longer hours. And pretty much impossible to have dinner together as a family.

* People like to throw around accusations of parents not having childcare, but I literally don't know anyone who was working from home while taking care of a young child.

Plenty also only need intermittent childcare and don't know what to do.

We're dual feds. DH is often called to crises out of town. Normally I work 6-3:30 and get the kids from school, dh takes them to school. What can I do when he's out of town? Just take 2.5-3 hours of annual leave a day? There isn't an option for before school care that you pay per day and I don't need it daily. It's also currently full.

Schools just aren't set up for working parents and previously our works took the full brunt of that. Now both school and work are unfriendly to everyone. I like working in the office, but the complete lack of any flexibility is killing me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many people don't want to pay for childcare like everyone else did before covid, they want to pocket the extra money and also live far out to pocket even more money!

We have childcare*, but two parents commuting every day means we will have to find a daycare with even longer hours. And pretty much impossible to have dinner together as a family.

* People like to throw around accusations of parents not having childcare, but I literally don't know anyone who was working from home while taking care of a young child.

Plenty also only need intermittent childcare and don't know what to do.

We're dual feds. DH is often called to crises out of town. Normally I work 6-3:30 and get the kids from school, dh takes them to school. What can I do when he's out of town? Just take 2.5-3 hours of annual leave a day? There isn't an option for before school care that you pay per day and I don't need it daily. It's also currently full.

Schools just aren't set up for working parents and previously our works took the full brunt of that. Now both school and work are unfriendly to everyone. I like working in the office, but the complete lack of any flexibility is killing me.

Yes but this isn’t a new problem. Intermittent childcare has always been a need and has never been available.