"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Umm … what?

No one loves to hate MCPS. We hate MCPS because it provides a subpar education.

C'mon now.
We all know y'all want to be, compare and measure yourselves to MCPS.
Most of y'all are trying to justify paying for an inferior product by bashing MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Umm … what?

No one loves to hate MCPS. We hate MCPS because it provides a subpar education.

C'mon now.
We all know y'all want to be, compare and measure yourselves to MCPS.
Most of y'all are trying to justify paying for an inferior product by bashing MCPS.

Your attempts at trolling are boring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Your point??????

PP point was that you’re incredibly dim. I agree.

You're as dumb as the PP
You all claimed that MCPS passed/graduated everybody and at the same time posted that the graduation rate is 89%.
Could not make this $hit up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Umm … what?

No one loves to hate MCPS. We hate MCPS because it provides a subpar education.

C'mon now.
We all know y'all want to be, compare and measure yourselves to MCPS.
Most of y'all are trying to justify paying for an inferior product by bashing MCPS.

Your attempts at trolling are boring.

Maybe you should move to your inferior product forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

If you have data showing that recent MCPS graduates are failing out of colleges and/or unable to hold jobs, please share.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

If you have data showing that recent MCPS graduates are failing out of colleges and/or unable to hold jobs, please share.

Well for starters, the Bethesda Magazine article is pretty damning.

[Anonymous]

The typical myth of high standardized test scores equals affluent family paying for tutors while ignoring any possibility of the personal talent and effort (not much limited by social economical conditions, to be frank, if you want to work hard, you can find a way to). Standardized test is definitely not perfect, just like constitutional republic, but so far it may be the least bad option we have. Try think of a scenario, when there is not much objective criteria, only subjective such as "charisma", "personable" and competing on how well pampered the extra curriculum activities are, do you think a lower social-economical family kid can afford competing in golf (with years of gear and training) or horseback riding? Will he/she not have a better chance at least to work hard and get academically as good as his talent and effort permit？ These recent trend of downplay or even demonetize personal effort and academic achievement is really toxic and honestly counter intuitive from what it is "designed" to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

If you have data showing that recent MCPS graduates are failing out of colleges and/or unable to hold jobs, please share.

Well for starters, the Bethesda Magazine article is pretty damning.

So you have none. Got it
-DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

If you have data showing that recent MCPS graduates are failing out of colleges and/or unable to hold jobs, please share.

Well for starters, the Bethesda Magazine article is pretty damning.

So you have none. Got it
-DP

How does it feel to be willingly ignorant?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The typical myth of high standardized test scores equals affluent family paying for tutors while ignoring any possibility of the personal talent and effort (not much limited by social economical conditions, to be frank, if you want to work hard, you can find a way to). Standardized test is definitely not perfect, just like constitutional republic, but so far it may be the least bad option we have. Try think of a scenario, when there is not much objective criteria, only subjective such as "charisma", "personable" and competing on how well pampered the extra curriculum activities are, do you think a lower social-economical family kid can afford competing in golf (with years of gear and training) or horseback riding? Will he/she not have a better chance at least to work hard and get academically as good as his talent and effort permit？ These recent trend of downplay or even demonetize personal effort and academic achievement is really toxic and honestly counter intuitive from what it is "designed" to help.

Claiming someone can achieve success through hard work, is racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

If you have data showing that recent MCPS graduates are failing out of colleges and/or unable to hold jobs, please share.

Well for starters, the Bethesda Magazine article is pretty damning.

So you have none. Got it
-DP

How does it feel to be willingly ignorant?

You should know, you're the ignorant one.
You can't even back up your claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Comparing MCPS to City of Baltimore is setting the bar pathetically low.

My point is that there’s no way MCPS should be letting nearly 100% of the kids graduate when we know they’re not prepared for college or a career.

They have to because guess what groups would dominate the non graduating non prepared for college and career cohort.

Therefore the whole system is required to suck.

[Anonymous]

It’s not perfect but standardized tests are the only feasible way to quantify academic levels.