MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

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Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

Indian American here. I’m not Asian. Sorry. You don’t make the rules for us all.

Even Indians do not want to be classified as Asians since they can see how Asians are treated in this great country.

Wut? Asians are treated with respect in this country because they are correctly perceived as hard-working and law-abiding.

What?
You’re systematically put down (such as affirmative action) because you’re respected?

Asians attend highly selective colleges in numbers that far exceed their percentage of the overall population. In the exact case we are discussing here, MIT, "the percentage of Asian American students in the class rose to 47 percent from 40 percent" - compared to Asians being maybe 7% of the overall population. How the f**k is that "systematically put down through affirmative action"???

Is your brain full of $hit or you’re doing this on purpose? How does that have anything to do with if a group is discriminated or not. Did you not see the fact Asian Americans are subject to much much higher standards than other races to be admitted to top colleges in this country?
Google SCOTUS ruling on Harvard lawsuit.

Asians are accepted to Ivies and MIT vastly in excess of their numbers in the general population, and you're whining about discrimination? Get bent. If there were actual discrimination then Asians at Harvard would be 7% not 30%.

Despite the discrimination.
Kudos to Asians.
Kudos to SCUTUS.
Stop racism and discrimination.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

That one way to respond when the numbers aren't on your side

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Do you know the percentage numbers? I know for a fact, Asian percentages dropped a lot after the TJ “reform”.

Mostly because the denominator increased. The actual number of Asian students attending is close to an all-time high.

Math.

Why are Asians subject to higher standards? That’s racist and unlawful.

Asians are 20% of Fairfax County and 63% of TJHS. Stop crying about racism.

Jewish students make up 2% of the US population but make up about 20% of the Ivy schools - that is 10 times the population but nobody wants to discuss that and only want to point out 7% Asians make up about 18% of the Ivy schools (2.5 times).

shhh...you aren't supposed to notice these things

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Let's be honest, your kid is not desiring "diversity" since Howard is considered "diverse" university. Your kid sounds anti-Asian.

Not surprising since many in our society are brainwashed to become anti-Asian w/o even them becoming aware. Wake up people.

I don't know why you're bringing up an HBCU. What my kid wants is a university that is multi cultural. black/white/Hispanic/Asian/mixed race. If you can't understand this I don't know what to say. If this makes her racist then so be it.

And some kids just want to pursue excellence....

No one who goes to these schools is an idiot. Maybe you should look in the mirror and take stock of yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Let's be honest, your kid is not desiring "diversity" since Howard is considered "diverse" university. Your kid sounds anti-Asian.

Not surprising since many in our society are brainwashed to become anti-Asian w/o even them becoming aware. Wake up people.

I don't know why you're bringing up an HBCU. What my kid wants is a university that is multi cultural. black/white/Hispanic/Asian/mixed race. If you can't understand this I don't know what to say. If this makes her racist then so be it.

And some kids just want to pursue excellence....

No one who goes to these schools is an idiot. Maybe you should look in the mirror and take stock of yourself.

Yes, no need to use race in admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

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Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

Aah my favorite type of rascism still exists on this board!

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Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

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Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

Another +1. Truly sad comments here.

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Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

Yes, everyone should be treated fairly and equally as an individual not by their skin color.

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Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

Multiculturalism has failed because, overwhelmingly, only liberal whites "don't care about race" or are willing to advantage other races over their own. Every other race does, and that's not going to stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

That one way to respond when the numbers aren't on your side

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Do you know the percentage numbers? I know for a fact, Asian percentages dropped a lot after the TJ “reform”.

Mostly because the denominator increased. The actual number of Asian students attending is close to an all-time high.

Math.

Why are Asians subject to higher standards? That’s racist and unlawful.

The TJ application process is race-blind. All kids face the same standards.

Except the school board changed the admission system to reduce Asians and increase blacks/Hispanics in 2020-2021 in a rushed process during the height of pandemic. Sneaky idiots.

They wanted to increase representation from underrepresented groups. Which is why they ADDED seats to accommodate these additional kids from across the county.

There are as many Asian students there today as ever before. And they have a higher acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

We can only hope.

Look what happened to TJ. Affirmative action in disguise to significantly reduce Asian students in favor of other races. Clear discrimination that is an "inconvenient truth":

Asians face more discrimination (sometimes language difficulties as well) than URMs and still manage to excel and gain admission to top schools and gain employment to top companies.

It clearly is NOT discrimination.

It wasn’t about reducing the number of Asian students, it was about expanding access to more kids from across the county. Which is why they ADDED seats for this expanded access.

Asian students still make up the majority of students and are accepted at a higher rate than other groups. And, in fact, there are MORE Asian students at TJ since the admissions change than almost any other year in the school’s history.

The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ by school year (fall):


Acceptance rates (class of 2025):
Asian 19%
Black 14% (5% lower)
Multiracial/Other* 13% (6% lower)
Hispanic 21%
White 17%

Plus, the court decided it wasn’t discrimination.
https://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinions/221280.P.pdf
Pg 7
“we are satisfied that the challenged admissions policy does not disparately impact Asian American students”

And the SCOTUS left ruling in place:
https://virginiamercury.com/2024/02/20/supreme-court-wont-hear-thomas-jefferson-admissions-case/

On average, classes have ~60 more URMs, which was a huge % increase, more than 200% jump.



More importantly, we’ve seen representation from all middle schools and kids from lower-income families. In fact, per the courts, the students who benefited the most were Asian from low-income families.

TJ is not just a school for wealthy kids from feeder schools. Or wealthy kids who gained an unfair advantage because their families could afford to get access to previous test questions on an NDA-protected test.

You don’t sound very smart or you’re just evil. Did you purposely forget to look at the percentage of each race?

That one way to respond when the numbers aren't on your side

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Do you know the percentage numbers? I know for a fact, Asian percentages dropped a lot after the TJ “reform”.

Mostly because the denominator increased. The actual number of Asian students attending is close to an all-time high.

Math.

Why are Asians subject to higher standards? That’s racist and unlawful.

The TJ application process is race-blind. All kids face the same standards.

Except the school board changed the admission system to reduce Asians and increase blacks/Hispanics in 2020-2021 in a rushed process during the height of pandemic. Sneaky idiots.

They wanted to increase representation from underrepresented groups. Which is why they ADDED seats to accommodate these additional kids from across the county.

There are as many Asian students there today as ever before. And they have a higher acceptance rate.

You forget to mention that number of freshmen Asian students decreased by approximately 30% after the admission change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

How do you tackle opportunity hoarding? I would gladly trade my child’s hock and possible Ivy ticket for an excellent k-12 education. People here are delusional if they think we all start at a level playing field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

How do you tackle opportunity hoarding? I would gladly trade my child’s hock and possible Ivy ticket for an excellent k-12 education. People here are delusional if they think we all start at a level playing field.

Hard Working middle class kids shouldn't be penalized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there are so many disparaging comments about races and ethnicities--and I mean not a particular one but all of them, I hope this gets shut down, and I go hope that only radicals are posting here because if this is where we are in todays world it is VERY SAD

+1 depressing really

multiculturalism will fail if this is what people think and post when anonymous, and i bet it all most are dems here...

I really dont care what my race, religion and culture does, I stopped caring at 20 when i realized I wont be defined by my parents and let alone by my ancestors, I wont be defined by my political affiliation, and I dont care what is politically correct, who ever thinks otherwise is not a well developed person

How do you tackle opportunity hoarding? I would gladly trade my child’s hock and possible Ivy ticket for an excellent k-12 education. People here are delusional if they think we all start at a level playing field.

Hard Working middle class kids shouldn't be penalized.

Not exactly an answer to PP's question