Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

This is an utterly bizarre and utterly joyless outlook. I have kids who made it to college with significant funding, so technically worth it, and yet even my kids and I would never say that travel sports was for college.

The obsessed anti-athlete haters on DCUM are just so, so weird. I have come to the conclusion that they don’t actually know how to have fun, to do something for the love and enjoyment, so they have to see the world the way the PP does. They don’t understand joy, camaraderie, fitness, or any of the intangibles that sports brings.

Keep in mind that these people pour tremendous amounts of time, money, and resources into raising their kids, not to to be future well-functioning adults, but to be future college students. They simply can’t comprehend a parenting philosophy or strategy (or God forbid the lack of strategy or philosophy) that is not 100% focused on college admissions.

The spoken and unspoken goal of all the crazy sports parents is their kid "playing at the next level." You are lying if you deny that. Not necessarily T20 elite admissions hooks, just on a college team, any college team. And preferably D1, for bragging rights and real student-athlete scholarships.

No way. I want my kid to go pro. I couldn’t give less of a sh!t about playing in college.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

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I mean, whats the point of going to the beach on vacation? Waste of time and money. Christmas? Pure foolishness.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

100% false. Sorry you had to type all that when you could have just admitted your kid is a loser who can't manage D1.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

100% false. Sorry you had to type all that when you could have just admitted your kid is a loser who can't manage D1.

DP

Do you think your kids would be embarrassed if they caught you arguing like this online? Not just due to the pathetic living-vicariously aspect, but also because of the elementary/middle school level of insults slung?

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

No, I get the idea of fun. However, the vast majority of people paying money for competitive youth orchestras, selective drama and dance companies and competitive chess do in fact have a view on either college (whether selective college admissions or conservatories) or perhaps professional opportunities. Not sure why you seem to think it is so different. This isn't to say kids don't enjoy it, but it's quite odd you think people have to spend lots of $$$s for "fun".

Kids playing music for fun have lots of fun starting a garage band or playing for the HS. Kids playing chess merely for fun play for the HS chess team. I would agree you can spend lots of money on video games just for fun because it's no fun playing on an under-powered, old computer.

What's odd is that you equate spending thousands of dollars with fun.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

No, I get the idea of fun. However, the vast majority of people paying money for competitive youth orchestras, selective drama and dance companies and competitive chess do in fact have a view on either college (whether selective college admissions or conservatories) or perhaps professional opportunities. Not sure why you seem to think it is so different. This isn't to say kids don't enjoy it, but it's quite odd you think people have to spend lots of $$$s for "fun".

Kids playing music for fun have lots of fun starting a garage band or playing for the HS. Kids playing chess merely for fun play for the HS chess team. I would agree you can spend lots of money on video games just for fun because it's no fun playing on an under-powered, old computer.

What's odd is that you equate spending thousands of dollars with fun.

What about horse riding in all of its many varieties? I know many people who own horses and spend countless hours riding and grooming them. None of those families think their daughter has a career as a professional rider or trainer.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

No, I get the idea of fun. However, the vast majority of people paying money for competitive youth orchestras, selective drama and dance companies and competitive chess do in fact have a view on either college (whether selective college admissions or conservatories) or perhaps professional opportunities. Not sure why you seem to think it is so different. This isn't to say kids don't enjoy it, but it's quite odd you think people have to spend lots of $$$s for "fun".

Kids playing music for fun have lots of fun starting a garage band or playing for the HS. Kids playing chess merely for fun play for the HS chess team. I would agree you can spend lots of money on video games just for fun because it's no fun playing on an under-powered, old computer.

What's odd is that you equate spending thousands of dollars with fun.

What about horse riding in all of its many varieties? I know many people who own horses and spend countless hours riding and grooming them. None of those families think their daughter has a career as a professional rider or trainer.

Hmm...so I guess this discussion really isn't about Bill Gates and if he wants to spend millions to indulge his daughter's horse-riding habit (though believe she is on the Olympic team), but I suppose if you think that is the profile of the average travel sports family...then sure. Interesting you know "many" families that own horses that pay lots of money for their kid to play at a high level with no further ambitions...but hard to dispute.

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How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

Well, if OP's straw woman needs tons of merit for a D3 school that accepts everyone and gives tons of merit to everyone...pretty broke I gather.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

Name one other thing you kid does for "fun" that you spend thousands of dollars a year to participate.

Would you spend thousands per year for your kid to play paintball with a group every week? I bet your kid thinks that is fun too. If the answer is yes, then at least you are fine with whatever your kid does for fun.

Fashion design. (Really.)

Also I have a friend whose kid is a competitive chess player and they spend far more than I ever spent on club soccer.

You seem extremely unfamiliar with the concept of fun, so you probably don’t understand how many activities are out there that are done purely for fun but that cost a lot to be done at a high level. Music, art, fashion, gaming, and lots more: all have enormous costs when done well. And very few are done with an eye to college discounts or admissions.

. . . the vast majority of people paying money for competitive youth orchestras, selective drama and dance companies and competitive chess do in fact have a view on either college (whether selective college admissions or conservatories) or perhaps professional opportunities. Not sure why you seem to think it is so different . . .

I pursued an entirely impractical college major from start to finish purely because I enjoyed doing it. I spent years of work learning and preparing for it, entered it _knowing_ I wasn't going to stay with it after college, pursued a completely different career track, and have been totally satisfied with the whole experience. Sometimes people really do pour effort (and resources, if they are fortunate enough to have them) into doing something at _their_ highest personal level just because they want to. It doesn't all have to be a straight line to a particular kind of college or a particular job.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

100% false. Sorry you had to type all that when you could have just admitted your kid is a loser who can't manage D1.

You inadvertently revealed the truth and can’t back away now. I’m sorry you are so bitter and angry about it, though. That’s probably hard on your kid.

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So, I'm assuming the three dudes spamming this board with 'people only do travel to get into college' all married their very first girlfriend, right?

I mean, theres no sense in dating for fun, huh? If you're dating a girl it's only because you wnat to marry the girl, right?