Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:You all are so noxious and petty. Congrats to all the D3 players who get to continue their love of sport and any merit recieved.
—Nonsport parent (DC played through Varsity and will not play in college)

Respectfully, congrats for what exactly? Anyone can walk on low rank D3 teams. Most of these kids will quit the sport after a year of riding the bench. It’s just these travel sports parents trying to save face because they can’t come to grips with the fact they wasted money and years of free time gunning for a D1 offer that never materialized.

You are just wrong. My son is in the middle of recruitment for baseball. Kids on his travel team will go D1, D2, D3, and JUCO. His high school’s top players will go D3, no D1 talent. Getting on the radar of the D3s is just as hard as D1 - sure, a lower level player, but they still have to want you. You can’t show up and decide to play. They have full rosters and don’t just add walk ons.

Mock D3 athletes if it gets you off - whatever gets you through the day. But you are wrong about what it takes to play at a D3.

I hear what you are saying...but go pick a random D3 school in the middle of nowhere that has a 90%+ acceptance rate. I randomly picked Alma College. I would be shocked if you are 1/2 decent player and you decide to attend that school that you can't walk on that team.

An NESCAC or a school like Emory, JHU, etc....that's a completely different animal. However, there are hundreds of Alma's out there.

BTW, your travel coach needs to warn kids about JUCO. The transfer portal has destroyed the value of JUCO and increasingly doesn't lead anywhere...at the very least, make sure the JUCO has direct admit to a good flagship so have a good option when baseball doesn't work out.

But no one is talking about the middle of nowhere. People are talking about Gettysburg, Lynchburg, Washington College, etc. No one is walking on there unless they are the real deal.

Well...yes they are. You responded to someone that said you can walk on to a low-ranked D3 team, by claiming you cannot.

My point is in fact there are hundreds of low-ranked, non-selective D3 teams that you can probably walk on the team.

DP but read the bolded word in your comment, ponder why it’s bolded, and then just stop talking.

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this never happened.

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's daughter is rowing for Delaware this year. Full ride.

Dummy - Delaware is D1 - we (the adults) are talking about D3 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.

Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.

Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.

Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?

Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.

Once more, the official D1 baseball scholarship policy is as follows:

D1 baseball programs can have up to 11.7 scholarships per team, but not every program awards the full allotment. The scholarships are equivalencies, meaning the value of the scholarships can be distributed among the team in different ways. Each scholarship athlete must receive at least 25% of the total program allotment.

Let's just say the total value of scholarships is 11.7 * $50,000 = $585,000. You can give 11 players on a 50 man roster $50,000 and a 12th player $35,000. Alternatively, you can give 46 players $12,500 each. It's up to the coach to decide. Typically it is somewhere between those extremes where like 50% of the team gets between 25% - 100%, and the rest get zero but they are on the team and are accepted to the college.

No one cares about the D1 rules - they are a specifically talking D3. There is a huge difference.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the school? If they give a huge discount to pretty much everyone then this is nothing really special.

It's special to the parents who are proud of their kid and likely relieved that they won't be on the hook for full tuition.

Lots of teenagers are aimless and undedicated. The kid in question sounds like a hard working kid who is not naturally brilliant, a good test taker, or a naturally gifted athlete. And yet she has diligently kept working at school and her sport, doing the best she can, even retaking test to improve her shot at a good college result. She's gotten in a a school she and her family sound excited about, and bonus, she is getting scholarship money to attend.

She and her parents have every reason to proud and if you can't see that, that's on you. This kid isn't being written up in a national newspaper as some kind of superstar. Her parents are bragging on her a bit because they are happy and proud.

There are many, small D3 schools that provide nearly 100% of admits significant merit aid. If that is the goal then just go to colleges like the below:

Colleges Offering Merit Aid to 95%+ of Students Without Financial Need
Name State % Freshmen W/out Need
Receiving Merit Aid Avg Merit Award Cost of Attendance
('22-'23)
Beloit College WI 99 $41,660 $67,172
Albion College MI 100 $39,697 $67,796
Susquehanna University PA 98 $36,317 $70,600
Kalamazoo College MI 96 $36,009 $68,166
Clarkson University NY 100 $35,794 $76,666
Washington & Jefferson College PA 100 $34,857 $45,515
The College of Wooster OH 98 $33,902 $73,550
Washington College MD 100 $33,834 $67,960
Ursinus College PA 97 $33,247 $74,240
Coe College IA 98 $33,182 $63,562
Simpson College IA 100 $32,534 $55,394
Lebannon Valley College PA 98 $32,257 $60,460
Centre College KY 98 $32,217 $60,370
St. Catherine University MN 96 $32,101 $58,764
Wabash College IN 100 $31,853 $61,500
Lawrence University WI 99 $31,503 $66,987
Widener University PA 97 $31,300 $68,148
Agnes Scott College GA 100 $31,127 $61,195
Cornell College IA 99 $30,950 $61,168
Ohio Wesleyan University OH 99 $30,854 $69,443

Lame schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.

Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.

Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.

Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?

Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.

Once more, the official D1 baseball scholarship policy is as follows:

D1 baseball programs can have up to 11.7 scholarships per team, but not every program awards the full allotment. The scholarships are equivalencies, meaning the value of the scholarships can be distributed among the team in different ways. Each scholarship athlete must receive at least 25% of the total program allotment.

Let's just say the total value of scholarships is 11.7 * $50,000 = $585,000. You can give 11 players on a 50 man roster $50,000 and a 12th player $35,000. Alternatively, you can give 46 players $12,500 each. It's up to the coach to decide. Typically it is somewhere between those extremes where like 50% of the team gets between 25% - 100%, and the rest get zero but they are on the team and are accepted to the college.

No one cares about the D1 rules - they are a specifically talking D3. There is a huge difference.

Way to respond to a comment that was specific to a PP like 4 pages back...with just an out of left field comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You all are so noxious and petty. Congrats to all the D3 players who get to continue their love of sport and any merit recieved.
—Nonsport parent (DC played through Varsity and will not play in college)

Respectfully, congrats for what exactly? Anyone can walk on low rank D3 teams. Most of these kids will quit the sport after a year of riding the bench. It’s just these travel sports parents trying to save face because they can’t come to grips with the fact they wasted money and years of free time gunning for a D1 offer that never materialized.

You are just wrong. My son is in the middle of recruitment for baseball. Kids on his travel team will go D1, D2, D3, and JUCO. His high school’s top players will go D3, no D1 talent. Getting on the radar of the D3s is just as hard as D1 - sure, a lower level player, but they still have to want you. You can’t show up and decide to play. They have full rosters and don’t just add walk ons.

Mock D3 athletes if it gets you off - whatever gets you through the day. But you are wrong about what it takes to play at a D3.

I hear what you are saying...but go pick a random D3 school in the middle of nowhere that has a 90%+ acceptance rate. I randomly picked Alma College. I would be shocked if you are 1/2 decent player and you decide to attend that school that you can't walk on that team.

An NESCAC or a school like Emory, JHU, etc....that's a completely different animal. However, there are hundreds of Alma's out there.

BTW, your travel coach needs to warn kids about JUCO. The transfer portal has destroyed the value of JUCO and increasingly doesn't lead anywhere...at the very least, make sure the JUCO has direct admit to a good flagship so have a good option when baseball doesn't work out.

But no one is talking about the middle of nowhere. People are talking about Gettysburg, Lynchburg, Washington College, etc. No one is walking on there unless they are the real deal.

Well...yes they are. You responded to someone that said you can walk on to a low-ranked D3 team, by claiming you cannot.

My point is in fact there are hundreds of low-ranked, non-selective D3 teams that you can probably walk on the team.

DP but read the bolded word in your comment, ponder why it’s bolded, and then just stop talking.

Sorry...are you offended because plenty of kids can walk onto really bad D3 teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's daughter is rowing for Delaware this year. Full ride.

Dummy - Delaware is D1 - we (the adults) are talking about D3 schools.

Because your kid is a loser.

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor's daughter is rowing for Delaware this year. Full ride.

Dummy - Delaware is D1 - we (the adults) are talking about D3 schools.

Because your kid is a loser.

Why do you keep calling kids losers? The whole point of this thread is the PARENTS trying to talk it up to other people. Not the kids. I’m sure most D3 college athletes are great kids. Not sure why you keep insulting innocent kids. They aren’t being a$$holes - their parents are.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the school? If they give a huge discount to pretty much everyone then this is nothing really special.

It's special to the parents who are proud of their kid and likely relieved that they won't be on the hook for full tuition.

Lots of teenagers are aimless and undedicated. The kid in question sounds like a hard working kid who is not naturally brilliant, a good test taker, or a naturally gifted athlete. And yet she has diligently kept working at school and her sport, doing the best she can, even retaking test to improve her shot at a good college result. She's gotten in a a school she and her family sound excited about, and bonus, she is getting scholarship money to attend.

She and her parents have every reason to proud and if you can't see that, that's on you. This kid isn't being written up in a national newspaper as some kind of superstar. Her parents are bragging on her a bit because they are happy and proud.

There are many, small D3 schools that provide nearly 100% of admits significant merit aid. If that is the goal then just go to colleges like the below:

Colleges Offering Merit Aid to 95%+ of Students Without Financial Need
Name State % Freshmen W/out Need
Receiving Merit Aid Avg Merit Award Cost of Attendance
('22-'23)
Beloit College WI 99 $41,660 $67,172
Albion College MI 100 $39,697 $67,796
Susquehanna University PA 98 $36,317 $70,600
Kalamazoo College MI 96 $36,009 $68,166
Clarkson University NY 100 $35,794 $76,666
Washington & Jefferson College PA 100 $34,857 $45,515
The College of Wooster OH 98 $33,902 $73,550
Washington College MD 100 $33,834 $67,960
Ursinus College PA 97 $33,247 $74,240
Coe College IA 98 $33,182 $63,562
Simpson College IA 100 $32,534 $55,394
Lebannon Valley College PA 98 $32,257 $60,460
Centre College KY 98 $32,217 $60,370
St. Catherine University MN 96 $32,101 $58,764
Wabash College IN 100 $31,853 $61,500
Lawrence University WI 99 $31,503 $66,987
Widener University PA 97 $31,300 $68,148
Agnes Scott College GA 100 $31,127 $61,195
Cornell College IA 99 $30,950 $61,168
Ohio Wesleyan University OH 99 $30,854 $69,443

Lame schools.

If your DC is interested in chemistry, then Kalamazoo may be one of the more affordable picks for UG with a pipeline to PhD (they may still have an arrangement with Yale where the tuition is covered for MS/PhD).

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-colleges-chemistry

[Anonymous]

Yes of course. My husband had a full ride to a D3 school on a sports scholarship but also had the academic chops to get in there (schools like his don't let people in *just* for athleticism, they require the grades and work ethic, too).

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Anonymous wrote:Yes of course. My husband had a full ride to a D3 school on a sports scholarship but also had the academic chops to get in there (schools like his don't let people in *just* for athleticism, they require the grades and work ethic, too).

Have you read any part of this thread? Or are you just stirring things up?