Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


Once more, the official D1 baseball scholarship policy is as follows:

D1 baseball programs can have up to 11.7 scholarships per team, but not every program awards the full allotment. The scholarships are equivalencies, meaning the value of the scholarships can be distributed among the team in different ways. Each scholarship athlete must receive at least 25% of the total program allotment.

Let's just say the total value of scholarships is 11.7 * $50,000 = $585,000. You can give 11 players on a 50 man roster $50,000 and a 12th player $35,000. Alternatively, you can give 46 players $12,500 each. It's up to the coach to decide. Typically it is somewhere between those extremes where like 50% of the team gets between 25% - 100%, and the rest get zero but they are on the team and are accepted to the college.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.


DP. What a weird take. Dude could work at a sports agency, or Nike, or IMG, or literally anywhere.

You do know that shit tons of kids get full rides to D1 schools, right? You think most MLB players paid full freight? Feel free to be the fool. I won't stop you.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.


DP. What a weird take. Dude could work at a sports agency, or Nike, or IMG, or literally anywhere.

You do know that shit tons of kids get full rides to D1 schools, right? You think most MLB players paid full freight? Feel free to be the fool. I won't stop you.


Shit tons for basketball and football. Absolutely not shit tons for baseball and swimming. It’s just not happening.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.


DP. What a weird take. Dude could work at a sports agency, or Nike, or IMG, or literally anywhere.

You do know that shit tons of kids get full rides to D1 schools, right? You think most MLB players paid full freight? Feel free to be the fool. I won't stop you.


4.3% of MLB players have a college degree. So yeah, you keep telling yourself they’re giving out free rides left and right. Baseball players can be drafted right out of HS. A small percentage are coming from college. So no, MOST MLB players are not getting full rides in college.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.


DP. What a weird take. Dude could work at a sports agency, or Nike, or IMG, or literally anywhere.

You do know that shit tons of kids get full rides to D1 schools, right? You think most MLB players paid full freight? Feel free to be the fool. I won't stop you.


This article disagrees with you.
https://baseballcentric.com/division-i-baseball-stats/
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


.1% of college athletes get full rides. And you know 3 of that .1%. Sure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sports are used to lure kids to obscure d 3 schools they would not otherwise attend,


In the DMV travel players in sports like lacrosse, soccer, field hockey, swimming, rowing want to attend top tier schools no matter if D1 or D3. That list closely aligns with USNews Top 50 universities and top 20 SLACs. Most don’t care if it’s D1 or D3 as long it has a brand recognition outside of the sport and it’s double win if it has both. Of these 70 schools (not all have the sports at D1/3 level), majority of the top 25 universities and top 10 SLACs don’t offer merit (do not offer athletic) and if they are D1 non ivy they offer some but not much money in athletic scholarships. Outside of those 35 schools, the remaining D3s in that ideal college list do offer very limited merit scholarships but offer financial aid and again no athletic scholarships and the D1s remaining on the list have both merit and athletic scholarships to offer. The D3s outside of these 70 schools are trying to get as many students enrolled so they use their D3 athletic strategy to recruit and make those kids feel special and throw token merit dollars to them and there would do the same for any applicant to get them to come to the school.
Anonymous
I see DCUMs deranged anti-athlete posters are still stewing. Have they posted more racist posts that get deleted?
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Anonymous wrote:I see DCUMs deranged anti-athlete posters are still stewing. Have they posted more racist posts that get deleted?


What are you talking about?
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Anonymous wrote:Look D# is incredibly bad Inermural athetheletes at most D1 schools would crush those at D3 schools!


Intermural beats D3? lol. A top D3 in most sports is full of kids that could have played mid/low D1 but preferred to balance sports with an education.


Not intramural, but an SEC or ACC club team in say baseball could legitimately maybe win the D3 national championships. Not to say they would…but would be in the conversation. I would imagine Lynchburg and Salisbury (winners or D3 finalists the last several years) probably get their fair share of near D1 talent.

The UNC club baseball team also has kids that could have played D1 at other schools but either didn’t want a less academic D1 or didn’t want to have a 60 hour per week job of playing baseball and the crazy travel schedule.

The UNC club team would likely beat nearly every academic D3 in the NESCAC considering I know plenty of low 80s kids recruited to those schools because yes you need the grades and scores for those schools. Emory or JHU likely a different matter.


Agree with this, my kid plays on a club team that absolutely destroyed D3 teams when they played them. The team does win club national championships. The club team practices and plays as much or more than most D3 teams (all year play)


When and where do those match ups happen? Where do you live where there are so many D3 schools available for this?

There are athletes who pick D3 schools as they do not want to practice and play all year round.

I know it's hard for some of you to imagine that not everyone has the same goals as you do or that you do for your children.



This is not the experience of D3 athletes I know in multiple sports. They do in fact train/practice all year round, though perhaps not in the same number of hours as a D1 player.



D3 soccer players don't play year round - they have a fall season, they have few friendlies in the Spring. The coach can't practice or train them after the completion of the fall season until late feb/early March. They can train by themselves, captain practices but the game and training schedule is significantly less than D1. Here is an overview of D3 https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d3/saac/D3SAAC_TimeDemandsResources.pdf.
Anonymous
It’s possible the scholarship is for only the first year. Then the family is on the hook to pay for the rest of the college degree. I’ve seen this happen elsewhere- small colleges are hurting right now enrollment is way down.
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Anonymous wrote:With only a very few exceptions, the only full ride D1 athletic scholarships (for males at least) are for football and basketball. All others are partials. Half if lucky, but more likely 1/3 or 1/4. That makes the D3 full scholarship boast even more absurd.


Absolute horseshit. My nephew got a full ride for swimming and my coworkers sons- both of them- got full rides for baseball.


Is your nephew a world class swimmer? Full rides can happen but they are exceedingly rare. If he’s not heading to the Olympics he didn’t get a full ride.


Again- thats me youre quoting, and yes, he is connected with the Olympics.

Are you sure your coworker didn't say "my kid got a baseball scholarship," which you interpreted to be a "full scholarship" and you now know to be false?


Am I sure I understand the situation of the guy who sits next to me from 8-5, M-F, 5 days a week for the last 6 years? Yeah, I'm sure.


And an Olympic level nephew swimmer.
The odds of one person you know getting a full ride in either of those sports is vanishingly small. Yet you know 3.
Not buying it.


DP. What a weird take. Dude could work at a sports agency, or Nike, or IMG, or literally anywhere.

You do know that shit tons of kids get full rides to D1 schools, right? You think most MLB players paid full freight? Feel free to be the fool. I won't stop you.


4.3% of MLB players have a college degree. So yeah, you keep telling yourself they’re giving out free rides left and right. Baseball players can be drafted right out of HS. A small percentage are coming from college. So no, MOST MLB players are not getting full rides in college.


There are a fair number of kids drafted after their junior year of college and they leave early. They don’t have a degree, but they went to college.

You also have to look at only US players to do an accurate sort of analysis. Zero DR, Japanese, Mexican, etc MLB players go to college and they probably make up 40%-50% of all MLB players.

If you look at the MLB draft, about 50% of 1st round and about 25% of 2nd round are HS kids. After 2nd round, it is 90%+ college players, though again, many are juniors.
Anonymous
You all are so noxious and petty. Congrats to all the D3 players who get to continue their love of sport and any merit recieved.
—Nonsport parent (DC played through Varsity and will not play in college)
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Anonymous wrote:You all are so noxious and petty. Congrats to all the D3 players who get to continue their love of sport and any merit recieved.
—Nonsport parent (DC played through Varsity and will not play in college)


You’re missing the point. I’m super happy for the kids - 100%. I take issue with the obnoxious parents that lie about it to impress people. They’re the real a$$holes here.
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