Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

100% false. Sorry you had to type all that when you could have just admitted your kid is a loser who can't manage D1.

You inadvertently revealed the truth and can’t back away now. I’m sorry you are so bitter and angry about it, though. That’s probably hard on your kid.

So, your kid plays D1?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

100% false. Sorry you had to type all that when you could have just admitted your kid is a loser who can't manage D1.

You inadvertently revealed the truth and can’t back away now. I’m sorry you are so bitter and angry about it, though. That’s probably hard on your kid.

So, your kid plays D1?

Yes. And got D3 offers that were cheaper than in-state flagship as well.

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

It’s literally every weekend and most week nights for practice and lessons. Depending on the sport, more like $1K plus a month all in.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

I only read the OP.

D3 schools may give students an athletic scholarship under the guise of merit. They still have to meet GPA requirements but the money is obviously for athletics under a merit label. This is not uncommon. So, perhaps they aren't lying.

For the love of God stop lying and spamming misinformation. It is against NCAA rules for Division III colleges to give athletic scholarships, period. The means-based financial aid and merit grants and scholarships they give your mediocre athlete kid is the EXACT SAME financial aid package they give every mediocre student applying. No college is violating NCAA rules so your mediocre daughter can play on their laughing stock sub .500 soccer team. You people are so deluded and bats***.

But, you don't understand, my DD is the best player ever, 99% of her travel club is going pro!!!!

Like I said earlier, parents are liars. It's the same thing with Admissions. One mom on our block spammed FB with pictures of her son touring the USNA, MIT, Berkely, Princeton.... only to have her kid end up at, I sh*t you not, The University of Mary Washington.

+1. They make a show about “visiting” Ivies and D1 universities, then their kid ends up at a podunk D3 college. It’s hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

I only read the OP.

D3 schools may give students an athletic scholarship under the guise of merit. They still have to meet GPA requirements but the money is obviously for athletics under a merit label. This is not uncommon. So, perhaps they aren't lying.

For the love of God stop lying and spamming misinformation. It is against NCAA rules for Division III colleges to give athletic scholarships, period. The means-based financial aid and merit grants and scholarships they give your mediocre athlete kid is the EXACT SAME financial aid package they give every mediocre student applying. No college is violating NCAA rules so your mediocre daughter can play on their laughing stock sub .500 soccer team. You people are so deluded and bats***.

As someone who used to work in admissions, this is flat-out wrong.

Everyone quiet down, some professional loser who worked in admissions at a D3 college for $35,000 a year is speaking.

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There is no money for D3 athletes, it is simply not permitted. Any money they are getting is merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you let them be proud of a kid who it doesn't sound like meets DCUM standards? Geez.

Sorry - I won’t give liars the satisfaction.

I only read the OP.

D3 schools may give students an athletic scholarship under the guise of merit. They still have to meet GPA requirements but the money is obviously for athletics under a merit label. This is not uncommon. So, perhaps they aren't lying.

For the love of God stop lying and spamming misinformation. It is against NCAA rules for Division III colleges to give athletic scholarships, period. The means-based financial aid and merit grants and scholarships they give your mediocre athlete kid is the EXACT SAME financial aid package they give every mediocre student applying. No college is violating NCAA rules so your mediocre daughter can play on their laughing stock sub .500 soccer team. You people are so deluded and bats***.

As someone who used to work in admissions, this is flat-out wrong.

Everyone quiet down, some professional loser who worked in admissions at a D3 college for $35,000 a year is speaking.

NP. I'd love to know the background of the person who posted this. Bet there is a rich backstory there.

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OP thanks for posting this. Neither of my DCs play sports and I am always curious abt how college recruiting works. Sounds like travel sports/potential recruiting evoke strong emotions all around, which is fascinating.

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

Ice hockey is well over $10,000/yr all-in.

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

Ice hockey is well over $10,000/yr all-in.

I guess the question is if you actually don’t care about college (BTW those travel people seem to exist only on DCUM as I have never met one IRL), is there a dirt cheap travel hockey league you can join?

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

It’s literally every weekend and most week nights for practice and lessons. Depending on the sport, more like $1K plus a month all in.

Again, completey false. I don't know if youre just some troll or a complete moron but travel basebal in DC is ~$1500-$2000 a season and that season is comprised of usually two weekenight practices and one game, plus two or three tournaments for 3 months.

But hey, if you wnat your kid in a dark basement playing COD with pedos, have at it. My son will be out in the fresh air getting exercise, sun on his face, training, and socialization

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My biggest take on threads like these is that people hyper focus on semantics. Honestly who cares how these people present their kid’s opportunity? Whether in their minds it’s a full ride even if technically it’s a merit scholarship covering tuition, or something else. If they share directly with you, simply say congratulations even if you know they’re not 100% correct. If you see a post on social media, hit it with a like and move on.

The bean counting and judgment never stops.

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Anonymous wrote:How broke are you losers talking about wasting money on travel sports. It's a couple grand. If that is a lot of money to you, you got much bigger issues.

Ice hockey is well over $10,000/yr all-in.

I guess the question is if you actually don’t care about college (BTW those travel people seem to exist only on DCUM as I have never met one IRL), is there a dirt cheap travel hockey league you can join?

In the DC area, literally every white middle class kid goes to college and about 1/4 of them play a travel sport as well. The area is hyper competitive. You can drive down little river turnpike in Annandale and count, by the dozens, the number of SAT and AP test prep businesses.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

So play rec. If you are doing the sport for pure joy, why would you spend thousands for the privilege?

Not PP, but my kid who will play D3 baseball really can’t play rec. It would be dangerous, not fair, and not fun for anyone. He throws 85, which is good but not D1 level at Junior year. Getting plunked by a pitch like that can injure you, and kids need to have practice with incrementally increasing pitch speeds to practice getting out of the way, turning their backs, etc. at the right time. It’s one of the reasons many high schools have Freshman teams - you just can’t safely put most 14 year olds up against a 17 or 18 year old. So that is one reason my son doesn’t play rec.

The other is he takes great joy in competition - he loves seeing how he stacks up, getting beat and then getting better and beating the one who beat him. These kids follow each other on social media, talk a little trash, then give each other manly hugs in the hand shake line. It’s a GAME. And games are only fun when you play against people who are your match.

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Anonymous wrote:Travel sports parents lie because they can’t come to terms with the last decade of carting their kids around was a complete waste.

I absolutely think it’s this. 100%.

Without touching the lying claim, what an odd take. How is spending time with your kid in a healthy physical activity a waste?

It’s the travel cost/time commitment that is the waste. It did absolutely nothing to get your kid into college - which is why most people do travel. If you want to spend time with your kid in a healthy physical activity, why aren’t you doing rec? It saves you thousands of dollars, and time spent traveling to tournaments and practice.

I mean if you want to blow thousands on travel for sh¡ts and giggles, have at it. But most people have a college goal in mind.

My kid did travel baseball because he loves the game. It didn't have a damn thing to do with colleges.

Ok. Then you’re one of the people that has money to waste on travel even though he could have played for much less. But you’re in the minority. At least around here.

Nope. Maybe 10% of his travel team is continuing at the collegiate level (not club) And I'm in Old Town. Rec and HS don't play a third as much as Travel and virtually all tournament play is travel related. Bottom line, if you want lots of at bats, you play travel.

It sounds like you don't know anything about this.

I have a kid that plays on a high level travel team (70% are D1 commits) and I don’t understand this whatsoever.

We told our kid after 8th grade that travel baseball was only in the cards if the plan was to play in college. If it isn’t, then what’s the point of spending thousands on team fees and travel?

Our kid thought about it and did try other sports in freshman and sophomore year as well, but decided he wanted to commit to baseball and put in the work. Talking to several D1 and D3 coaches and will be playing in several marquee tournaments as well…we will see what happens.

However, we weren’t investing all this money for a hobby. There really isn’t rec baseball at HS so it would have meant focusing on other sports or pursuing other interests, which he fully understood (and playing HS ball which is always an option in his case based on his HS).

Because it’s fun. I realize that doing a sport for the pure joy is a concept you have never experienced and cannot possibly understand, but that is the answer. It’s fun.

So play rec. If you are doing the sport for pure joy, why would you spend thousands for the privilege?

Not PP, but my kid who will play D3 baseball really can’t play rec. It would be dangerous, not fair, and not fun for anyone. He throws 85, which is good but not D1 level at Junior year. Getting plunked by a pitch like that can injure you, and kids need to have practice with incrementally increasing pitch speeds to practice getting out of the way, turning their backs, etc. at the right time. It’s one of the reasons many high schools have Freshman teams - you just can’t safely put most 14 year olds up against a 17 or 18 year old. So that is one reason my son doesn’t play rec.

The other is he takes great joy in competition - he loves seeing how he stacks up, getting beat and then getting better and beating the one who beat him. These kids follow each other on social media, talk a little trash, then give each other manly hugs in the hand shake line. It’s a GAME. And games are only fun when you play against people who are your match.

This happens in HS baseball, but my kid has never played the same travel team 2x in any season. Honestly, it’s rare he would know a single player on any opponent team since they are coming from all over the East Coast.