My sister and BIL want me to ask my husband to get their son a lucrative job

[Anonymous]

People, the only person who thinks the nephew is "demanding" a highly competitive $150k IB job is the OP. Who is divorced from reality.

What is reasonable is asking around or passing a resume around his work or contacts to see if there are other, less coveted opportunities. That's literally all anyone on here has been proposing. The nephew is not a total moron (hence Duke) and I find it near impossible to believe that he thinks he's getting a $150k IB job at this point.

The OP, however, has demonstrated herself to be a moron, so I don't doubt that she is adding inflammatory facts and/or doesn't understand what is being requested here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. People on here are acting awfully righteous, but I doubt they would automatically pull strings or stick their necks out for kinfolk they do not deem appropriate or prepared for the role.

That aside, middle-class strivers generally work harder than upper-class dilettantes, who don't have to work for money.

This is absurd. My daughter's sorority was practically all wealthy gals from the northeast and their chapter GPA was 3.8. Her sisters are currently working in tech, finance, or at medical, dental and top law schools. Nobody is impressed you went to Duke if you have a rotten GPA and weak internships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, the only person who thinks the nephew is "demanding" a highly competitive $150k IB job is the OP. Who is divorced from reality.

What is reasonable is asking around or passing a resume around his work or contacts to see if there are other, less coveted opportunities. That's literally all anyone on here has been proposing. The nephew is not a total moron (hence Duke) and I find it near impossible to believe that he thinks he's getting a $150k IB job at this point.

The OP, however, has demonstrated herself to be a moron, so I don't doubt that she is adding inflammatory facts and/or doesn't understand what is being requested here.

What does 'lucrative job' mean? If the kid wants a normal 9-5 paying an average starting salary, the family does not need an uncle's help. He can walk down to the professional development office or whatever it's called at Duke.

[Anonymous]

Let me break this down for the SAHM OP who doesn't have much if any professional experience: your nephew is attempting to do something called "networking." That is the best way to find a job. He is smart to be doing this. It's weird and selfish if your husband isn't at least willing to review his nephew's resume and give him some advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People on here are acting awfully righteous, but I doubt they would automatically pull strings or stick their necks out for kinfolk they do not deem appropriate or prepared for the role.

That aside, middle-class strivers generally work harder than upper-class dilettantes, who don't have to work for money.

This is absurd. My daughter's sorority was practically all wealthy gals from the northeast and their chapter GPA was 3.8. Her sisters are currently working in tech, finance, or at medical, dental and top law schools. Nobody is impressed you went to Duke if you have a rotten GPA and weak internships.

That person wasn't suggesting all wealthy people are lazy. We know that isn't true.

[Anonymous]

I see no harm in putting in a referral and letting him go through the standard interviewing process at the firm/company

Most entry-level jobs are very generic in nature. And also pretty repetitive. These jobs seem "competitive" because the market is saturated, not because they require a rocket scientist. As long as it's not posing a threat to society, what's the big deal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is our oldest nephew and I'm a SAHM, so I've never been through this before. Nephew is graduating from college. Sister and BIL are middle class. I'm a bit uncomfortable with my husband putting his neck out for an in-law who honestly doesn't seem deserving of a backdoor to a lucrative job. Or is this just how the world works and I should encourage my husband to help? My husband has helped a couple of close friends' kids, but they all had pretty impressive CVs, so I don't think they really even needed the lift.

How about an entry level job in your husband's company? Everyone needs help to get started and that's different from expecting an executive position without experience. Ask yourself if your nephew was your son and your family members could help would you ask? Also, your dh helps strangers. What is the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see no harm in putting in a referral and letting him go through the standard interviewing process at the firm/company

Most entry-level jobs are very generic in nature. And also pretty repetitive. These jobs seem "competitive" because the market is saturated, not because they require a rocket scientist. As long as it's not posing a threat to society, what's the big deal?

I agree with this. Most of these posters must not know 22 year old IB bankers. There is nothing special about them at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see no harm in putting in a referral and letting him go through the standard interviewing process at the firm/company

Most entry-level jobs are very generic in nature. And also pretty repetitive. These jobs seem "competitive" because the market is saturated, not because they require a rocket scientist. As long as it's not posing a threat to society, what's the big deal?

Wall Street interviews for graduating college students were last summer. All of those positions were filled months ago. And those offers went to kids with relevant summer 2023 internships. It's not like you can be a layabout all summer and walk up to the Morgan Stanley booth at the career fair in September and get a call back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see no harm in putting in a referral and letting him go through the standard interviewing process at the firm/company

Most entry-level jobs are very generic in nature. And also pretty repetitive. These jobs seem "competitive" because the market is saturated, not because they require a rocket scientist. As long as it's not posing a threat to society, what's the big deal?

Wall Street interviews for graduating college students were last summer. All of those positions were filled months ago. And those offers went to kids with relevant summer 2023 internships. It's not like you can be a layabout all summer and walk up to the Morgan Stanley booth at the career fair in September and get a call back.

Start reading better. No poster is suggesting he is getting an IB job. Those are the jobs that were snatched last summer.

There are, however, just regular entry level jobs at banks - running spreadsheets, client relationships, HR entry level, other admin. Those are hired on rolling basis, and his uncle could be helpful in getting his resume to the top of the pile for one of those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

I never said it was an easy state school. There is more than one way to become successful. If those kids with rich parents are willing to help, one would be foolish to turn it down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP you sound petty and nasty.

Agree. What does it matter that they’re middle class?

The only thing that matters is whether the kid is sharp and willing to roll up his sleeves. If the answer is yes, ask your husband to help get him an interview.

[Anonymous]

Duke is hard to get into. And expensive.

[Anonymous]

You should ask. It’s up to him if he does it or not but yes you owe it to your sister.