My sister and BIL want me to ask my husband to get their son a lucrative job

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

There are tons of jobs technically in finance, from easy to get to hyper selective entry and high wages. The PP sounds like a troll spamming finance buzzwords and cliches. A dumb jock with a 2.9 gpa may get a cushy “finance” job but it’s not the same caliber of job the elbowy smart kids are fighting for.

[Anonymous]

Why is it relevant that the in laws are middle class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is it relevant that the in laws are middle class?

They might think being handed a 150,000usd junior banker job is like being handed a union apprenticeship. That is not how it works. These prestige banker jobs were filled months if not technically over a year ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

There are tons of jobs technically in finance, from easy to get to hyper selective entry and high wages. The PP sounds like a troll spamming finance buzzwords and cliches. A dumb jock with a 2.9 gpa may get a cushy “finance” job but it’s not the same caliber of job the elbowy smart kids are fighting for.

Sadly a lot of the "elbowy smart kids" make the mistake of going purely down the quant path without developing the other skills needed to excel and they really do end up working for and getting ridiculed by the former jocks at top hedge funds and banks (outside of the quant-only firms).

[Anonymous]

This forum is truly just a bunch of clueless feds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

There are tons of jobs technically in finance, from easy to get to hyper selective entry and high wages. The PP sounds like a troll spamming finance buzzwords and cliches. A dumb jock with a 2.9 gpa may get a cushy “finance” job but it’s not the same caliber of job the elbowy smart kids are fighting for.

Sadly a lot of the "elbowy smart kids" make the mistake of going purely down the quant path without developing the other skills needed to excel and they really do end up working for and getting ridiculed by the former jocks at top hedge funds and banks (outside of the quant-only firms).

Hah, no. The only former jocks at the top are the sons of wealthy families who knew they could coast. Most are not tapped as a friend of their kid like PP, pretty rare. Being a jock was just the easy fun path they could take because they knew daddy would glide their path.

[Anonymous]

Many of the entry level kids in finance are borderline morons with family connections. Some of them even eventually become MDs. Life isn’t actually a meritocracy and it definitely isn’t fair. Sooner you realize that, the better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is hard to get into. And expensive.

Both true. OP has declined to define what is so concerning about this "middle class" background so I am assuming the nephew is the son of two educated professionals that happen to make less than 1m a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is hard to get into. And expensive.

Both true. OP has declined to define what is so concerning about this "middle class" background so I am assuming the nephew is the son of two educated professionals that happen to make less than 1m a year.

Duke is NOT hard to get into and it is NOT expensive.

I attended Duke in 2009 on an athletic scholarship with a GPA of 3.1 and SAT score of 1100. Many of my teammates had similar GPAs and SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

There are tons of jobs technically in finance, from easy to get to hyper selective entry and high wages. The PP sounds like a troll spamming finance buzzwords and cliches. A dumb jock with a 2.9 gpa may get a cushy “finance” job but it’s not the same caliber of job the elbowy smart kids are fighting for.

Sadly a lot of the "elbowy smart kids" make the mistake of going purely down the quant path without developing the other skills needed to excel and they really do end up working for and getting ridiculed by the former jocks at top hedge funds and banks (outside of the quant-only firms).

I attended my 10th year CMU class of reunion with 40 friends who majored in Computer Science. 39 of them have regular jobs making good salaries, between 250K and 350K. One person left CMU after his freshman year and transferred to VA Tech because he couldn't handle CMU. It turned out that he became the most successful person in the group because he is now the CIO for a fortune 100 company. His EQ is so much higher than his IQ. Those of us that attended CMU have very high IQ but low EQ. That "dumb jock" with a low GPA might be your future boss because he has high EQ. They don't teach EQ in college, just saying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is this kid less deserving? Because his parents are poors?

Even a rich kid with great grades would struggle to get handed such a plum job this late in the year. You're asking an uncle to ask one of his close pals to create a space for an undeserving slacker. The fact s/he is middle class is irrelevant. Going to Duke is also irrelevant. There are 2,000 Duke graduates a year. All would like a $150,000 job after graduation. How many get a $150,000 job? Maybe a few hundred, including computer science students.

I am the poster of the 2.9 GPA D1 athlete DS with a high-paying job with an investment company after graduation. FWIW, I am also from the MC.

OP's nephew should have made "connections" in college to avoid this kind of problem. My DS quickly learned in college that college kids with rich parents always like to hang out with athletes and musicians because they want to hang out with "cool" people. In returns, they ask their parents to help DS for opportunities after graduation. It is a win-win formula. Maybe OP's nephew doesn't have any useful skills that those college kids with rich parents want. That's how it works in the real world.

Oh I see so plumb jobs go to the bros who are athletic stars who can help your DS meet girls in college; that’s a more important skill than anything taught in classrooms.

I understand it’s how the world works, but I would think you would have been prouder of your kid if they had been an athlete and got a decent GPA from what you yourself said is an easy state school. But yeah, he’s making $$$ for chasing a ball, ‘Merica.

There are tons of jobs technically in finance, from easy to get to hyper selective entry and high wages. The PP sounds like a troll spamming finance buzzwords and cliches. A dumb jock with a 2.9 gpa may get a cushy “finance” job but it’s not the same caliber of job the elbowy smart kids are fighting for.

Sadly a lot of the "elbowy smart kids" make the mistake of going purely down the quant path without developing the other skills needed to excel and they really do end up working for and getting ridiculed by the former jocks at top hedge funds and banks (outside of the quant-only firms).

I attended my 10th year CMU class of reunion with 40 friends who majored in Computer Science. 39 of them have regular jobs making good salaries, between 250K and 350K. One person left CMU after his freshman year and transferred to VA Tech because he couldn't handle CMU. It turned out that he became the most successful person in the group because he is now the CIO for a fortune 100 company. His EQ is so much higher than his IQ. Those of us that attended CMU have very high IQ but low EQ. That "dumb jock" with a low GPA might be your future boss because he has high EQ. They don't teach EQ in college, just saying.

Taking classes in psychology, rhetoric, philosophy, or communications can go a long way to helping with EQ, communication, and influencing. Athletes are used to dealing with adversity, time management, and collaboration (depending on the sport anyway), which does prepare them for corporate life on top of EQ more generally. Resilience really isn't something a ton of college kids or young professionals have had to show much of either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duke is hard to get into. And expensive.

Both true. OP has declined to define what is so concerning about this "middle class" background so I am assuming the nephew is the son of two educated professionals that happen to make less than 1m a year.

Duke is NOT hard to get into and it is NOT expensive.

I attended Duke in 2009 on an athletic scholarship with a GPA of 3.1 and SAT score of 1100. Many of my teammates had similar GPAs and SAT scores.

The hardest part about most top schools is getting in. Look at the redic GPAs for Yale and Harvard recently. They don't even give a gentleman's C anymore; it is more like B or B+. You can bank on a decent-looking GPA and it is almost impossible to flunk out.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, I think you have some internalized class issues and embarrassment of your middle class roots. Why hasn't your DH helped before with internships? And why haven't you (since I assume you went to a good college and have a well-paying job) helped with an internship before? This is how upper-class do things. Given your roots, it is obvious you don't know this.

Oh wow. Didn't realize OP was stay at home. Now I am just embarrassed for her. Don't get a divorce is all I got to say.

You reek of jealousy! Hahahaahaahahaaaahahaahaahahhhhahahhaahah!

Yep! Totally jealous I am not a sociopath!

Same...totally jealous I am not stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I call troll. Who refers to their nephew as an in-law?

I agree!

[Anonymous]

This is just another raging troll post.