U Michigan EA results

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Anonymous wrote:You people really like Michigan. At $80k/yr consider your options.

If an academically comparable Ivy (say, Penn/Cornell/Columbia) costs 90K a year, what would you pay for Michigan?

Not comparable but also look at the resources available per student. It is a large public university but priced like an Ivy without the benefits.

I'd say academically comparable but far from comparable from a resources available perspective. Have a kid at Michigan and an Ivy, so know this first hand.

They can charge that OOS tuition because there are plenty of kids on Long Island with parents who will pay that. Regarding Michigan vs. Ivys, read in another forum about someone who went to UM instate instead of paying for an Ivy. The point is he wound up at Michigan Law with the Ivy graduates he would have met if he went that route. So he wound up in the same place and saved tens of thousands. Not a bad outcome.

Absolutely! However, I think the question here was about paying OOS tuition to Michigan vs. an Ivy and I think I'd go with an Ivy if I had the choice.

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Anonymous wrote:But are the kids applying to 20 really getting into 15?

My own kid got into Wisconsin and Michigan Friday and is so thrilled with Michigan she’s not waiting to hear from her Ivy ED deferral or any more T20s. Withdrawing everything this week, declining her safety admits and enjoying the rest of her year.

She’s not waiting for her Ivy? Why not? She can still decline safeties.[/quot

I bet a lot of people who got into both will decline wisconsin now.

OP here - because she has worked so hard and yes, Michigan seems like a lot of fun and just as good of an academic experience as the ivies. She wants the rah rah and to be around a lot of smart kids doing great things. (Plus she wants to move on to the fun of finding a roommate, buying merch, meeting other incoming Wolverines online. She’s just plain done!)

Good for you and your daughter to accept the amazing offer right in front of you rather than wait for some pie in the sky that won’t be nearly as much fun! She won’t regret it!

Thank you!! We’re so excited for her. This is the right fit for her.

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Anonymous wrote:You people really like Michigan. At $80k/yr consider your options.

If an academically comparable Ivy (say, Penn/Cornell/Columbia) costs 90K a year, what would you pay for Michigan?

Not comparable but also look at the resources available per student. It is a large public university but priced like an Ivy without the benefits.

I'd say academically comparable but far from comparable from a resources available perspective. Have a kid at Michigan and an Ivy, so know this first hand.

Could you please elaborate. Very interested. This would be helpful to everyone. What is the resource difference that you see?

Not PP but the issues at large publics are extremely large classes, difficulty enrolling in required courses and courses of interest due to limited space, limited personal interaction with faculty, limited advising, the quality of housing and dining services, etc. The resources per student are much smaller and it can have a real impact such as having to delay graduation because of difficulty enrolling in courses and the challenges of getting to know faculty that write recommendation letters.

I'm the original pp with kids at both places. Most of these are non-issues at Michigan. DC has no issues with faculty interaction, class sizes, or dining services, etc. Housing is an issue at every college town. Had one issue with course enrollment where everyone but DC dropped the course and the school just cancelled it (after the add/drop deadline) without providing an alternative and no one was able to help, but other than that has had no issues with getting classes as long as you meet the requirements. Enrollment is based on priority.

Having said that, for a lot of things, you are on your own at Michigan - Internships, finding research opportunities (there are plenty but no one is actively pointing in the right direction), recruitment support (mediocre), etc. The kids have to do a lot of the legwork to get internships. DC has friends in Engineering (juniors; 'really smart' according to DC) who have not had an internship yet.

Ivies seem to be watching out for their kids. They find them opportunities and make sure they are covered. Of course, you still have to apply and such, but the competition is way less. One winter, DC2 got a fully paid short internship/project (2 weeks) which involved a visit to a foreign country and they were 'treated like royalty', without spending a dime. They were encouraged to apply and got it without much fuss. None of that at Michigan. Housing seems to be a function of location. Friends have reported terrible housing situation in Philly, for example.

In balance, if you have the option, go with an Ivy vs a top Public, even if your program of study is not as highly ranked.

Thanks. Would you quantify the difference as 8 relative to 10? 7? 9?

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Anonymous wrote:You people really like Michigan. At $80k/yr consider your options.

If an academically comparable Ivy (say, Penn/Cornell/Columbia) costs 90K a year, what would you pay for Michigan?

Not comparable but also look at the resources available per student. It is a large public university but priced like an Ivy without the benefits.

I'd say academically comparable but far from comparable from a resources available perspective. Have a kid at Michigan and an Ivy, so know this first hand.

They can charge that OOS tuition because there are plenty of kids on Long Island with parents who will pay that. Regarding Michigan vs. Ivys, read in another forum about someone who went to UM instate instead of paying for an Ivy. The point is he wound up at Michigan Law with the Ivy graduates he would have met if he went that route. So he wound up in the same place and saved tens of thousands. Not a bad outcome.

Absolutely! However, I think the question here was about paying OOS tuition to Michigan vs. an Ivy and I think I'd go with an Ivy if I had the choice.

Would it depend on the Ivy, or just any Ivy because you want the so-called "prestige?" Because the Ivys are all different from each other in setting and curriculum.

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Did Ross BBA program decisions also come out or are those processed later, after an applicant is already admitted to the liberal arts college?

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Anonymous wrote:Did Ross BBA program decisions also come out or are those processed later, after an applicant is already admitted to the liberal arts college?

They come out later, at least last year they did.

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Anonymous wrote:But are the kids applying to 20 really getting into 15?

My own kid got into Wisconsin and Michigan Friday and is so thrilled with Michigan she’s not waiting to hear from her Ivy ED deferral or any more T20s. Withdrawing everything this week, declining her safety admits and enjoying the rest of her year.

She’s not waiting for her Ivy? Why not? She can still decline safeties.

I bet a lot of people who got into both will decline wisconsin now.

OP here - because she has worked so hard and yes, Michigan seems like a lot of fun and just as good of an academic experience as the ivies. She wants the rah rah and to be around a lot of smart kids doing great things. (Plus she wants to move on to the fun of finding a roommate, buying merch, meeting other incoming Wolverines online. She’s just plain done!)

Everyone says this because you know how insanely unlikely it is to get into an Ivy. This is face-saving 101. Then if you win the lottery and get into an Ivy, you go, obviously -- because you never actually pulled back your pending decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:But are the kids applying to 20 really getting into 15?

My own kid got into Wisconsin and Michigan Friday and is so thrilled with Michigan she’s not waiting to hear from her Ivy ED deferral or any more T20s. Withdrawing everything this week, declining her safety admits and enjoying the rest of her year.

She’s not waiting for her Ivy? Why not? She can still decline safeties.

I bet a lot of people who got into both will decline wisconsin now.

OP here - because she has worked so hard and yes, Michigan seems like a lot of fun and just as good of an academic experience as the ivies. She wants the rah rah and to be around a lot of smart kids doing great things. (Plus she wants to move on to the fun of finding a roommate, buying merch, meeting other incoming Wolverines online. She’s just plain done!)

Everyone says this because you know how insanely unlikely it is to get into an Ivy. This is face-saving 101. Then if you win the lottery and get into an Ivy, you go, obviously -- because you never actually pulled back your pending decisions.

The meanness on this board is unreal. Thank you for taking the time to tell me how "everyone" would react to my pretty specific situation of having a kid who just got accepted to Michigan, is on top of the world, and just made a reasoned decision to move on with her extremely privileged life and not wait on her Cornell ED chances. Have a great day.

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Anonymous wrote:But are the kids applying to 20 really getting into 15?

My own kid got into Wisconsin and Michigan Friday and is so thrilled with Michigan she’s not waiting to hear from her Ivy ED deferral or any more T20s. Withdrawing everything this week, declining her safety admits and enjoying the rest of her year.

She’s not waiting for her Ivy? Why not? She can still decline safeties.

I bet a lot of people who got into both will decline wisconsin now.

OP here - because she has worked so hard and yes, Michigan seems like a lot of fun and just as good of an academic experience as the ivies. She wants the rah rah and to be around a lot of smart kids doing great things. (Plus she wants to move on to the fun of finding a roommate, buying merch, meeting other incoming Wolverines online. She’s just plain done!)

Everyone says this because you know how insanely unlikely it is to get into an Ivy. This is face-saving 101. Then if you win the lottery and get into an Ivy, you go, obviously -- because you never actually pulled back your pending decisions.

Note no mention of the daughter calling Cornell to formally withdraw her application.

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Cornell and Michigan are about a 50:50 split for choice according to Parchment. Wouldn’t be a crazy thing to do!

This board is so full of status obsessed Ivy-whores-it IS possible to get a great education elsewhere!!!

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Actually I was wrong-Parchment says this:

64% choose
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor

95% confidence interval: 56.9% to 70.9%.

36% choose
Cornell University

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I was wrong-Parchment says this:

64% choose
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor

95% confidence interval: 56.9% to 70.9%.

36% choose
Cornell University

I was going to say, most kids I know who had that option, both back when I was in high school and again through our kids, had about the same split for these two schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually I was wrong-Parchment says this:

64% choose
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor

95% confidence interval: 56.9% to 70.9%.

36% choose
Cornell University

I was going to say, most kids I know who had that option, both back when I was in high school and again through our kids, had about the same split for these two schools.

100% - the folks coming back to say Ivy or bust would kill to have either option! Your kid is going to love Michigan! Celebrate this moment.

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No way would people take Michigan over Cornell. Please be honest.

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Anonymous wrote:No way would people take Michigan over Cornell. Please be honest.

Mine did.