What are not very expensive neighborhoods zoned for Langley - Herndon? Reston?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, FCPS. Show you really give a crap about equity and assign this building to Langley, not Marshall:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/12/20/affordable-housing-development-breaks-ground-near-spring-hill-metro-station/#more-281987

Madison, Marshal and McLean are closer to Springhill Metro than Langley. What is the obsession with Langley.

Most neighborhoods zoned to Langley are closer to other schools than to Langley. No reason why this complex couldn’t be assigned to Langley.

I don’t think this is true. You are only talking about certain part of great falls.

We are zoned for Langley and on the McLean/Great Falls border and Langley is our closest high school.

Anything in Great Falls, Reston, Herndon, or Vienna zoned to Langley is closer to another high school than to Langley, and some neighborhoods in McLean zoned to Langley are also closer to McLean.

Again, no reason why the new affordable housing in Tysons/Vienna off Spring Hill Road couldn’t be assigned to Langley. Y’all always come up with phony reasons to justify the continued segregation.

This statement is not true. Langley is the closest high school for most of Great Falls east of the village.

Langley is the closest high school for some of Great Falls east of Great Falls Village, not all, and most of Great Falls is west of GFV.

DP. The point is that Langley is indeed the closest high school for most of GF. The end.

That’s not true. Most of Great Falls is west of Great Falls Village and closer to other high schools. And some of Great Falls east of Great Falls Village is closer to other schools as well.

The point is that it’s a farce to argue that the new affordable housing complex off Spring Hill Road can’t be assigned to Langley if it’s closer to other schools when so many current Langley neighborhoods are closer to other schools.

I have no opinion about your last paragraph because I don't care who is assigned to Langley. And it doesn't look like anyone is arguing against that in the first place.

But your first paragraph is simply untrue. There is no other high school that is closer to most of GF than Langley. The very far west GF neighborhoods are closer to Herndon, but that's it. And certainly, GF east of the Village is closer to Langley than any other school. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here.

You seem rather dense - you are both incorrect when it comes to the facts and apparently incapable of understanding their implications.

Speaking of dense - I see you're incapable of refuting what I wrote. Do tell: which high school is closer to GF east of the Village? We'll wait while you consult some maps and realize how ignorant you look.

Again, most of Great Falls is west of Great Falls Village. And these areas typically are closer to Herndon, South Lakes, and perhaps other schools than to Langley.

With respect to Great Falls east of GFV, there are some areas to the northeast closer to Langley than to any other school. There are also areas southeast of GFV in Great Falls that are closer to Herndon, South Lakes, Madison, Marshall, and/or McLean than they are to Langley. To take but one example, the new Arden development in Great Falls is under 5 miles to Marshall, and just over 6 miles to McLean, but over 7 miles to Langley.

And the point - which you keep ignoring - is that if we're already willing to send kids in expensive houses to Langley even though other schools are closer, there would be no harm and in fact some benefit in reassigning new affordable housing in Tysons like Dominion Square West from Marshall (near capacity and projected to see substantial growth) to Langley (under capacity and projected to see little growth) even if Marshall is closer.

You really are an obnoxious defender of the status quo.

Good grief. I stated above (bolded, for your convenience) that I DO NOT CARE who is assigned to Langley. Send the kids in the affordable housing you mentioned to Langley! No one cares. But you don't have a say and neither do I, so the point is moot. And speaking of obnoxious, you are obnoxiously obsessing over this. And you still haven't told us what school your kids are zoned to and why you care so very, very deeply.

Seems you lied, and are pitching a hissy fit now that you got called out.

It’s a simple observation that, with affordable housing getting built closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods, the School Board - if it truly cares about equity and isn’t just totally full of crap - should assign some of it to under-enrolled Langley rather than load Marshall up with almost all of it.

"Lied"? About what? Most of GF east of the Village is indeed closer to Langley than any other school. You cherrypicked ONE development that is not. Which is weird that you would care about that - all of the houses in that area go to Langley. They're not going to carve out a special island and send it to a grossly overcrowded school, just to please you.

And no one is stopping you from lobbying the SB with your incessant demands - go for it. Not sure what repeatedly whining on this forum is going to do to help your cause.

Are you really that stupid, or just disingenuous?

The point was that Langley already has a ton of neighborhoods closer to other schools than to Langley. To some extent that’s inevitable because of Langley’s location.

Since that is the case, however, it’s then disingenuous to claim that some of the affordable housing getting built in Tysons - not far from current Langley neighborhoods- couldn’t be assigned there because it’s closer to Marshall.

I'm going to say this really slowly so that perhaps you can comprehend and we won't have to keep repeating ourselves:
NO ONE HAS MADE ANY SUCH CLAIM. YOU HAVE CREATED A STRAWMAN THAT SEEMS TO KEEP YOU UP AT NIGHT. JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course you have to add trailers during a school renovation.

But even if there are still trailers after the renovation, it’s not a good excuse to avoid Cooper and Langley picking up some of the affordable housing in the area, especially if it would otherwise lead to worse overcrowding at Kilmer and Marshall.

Tell the school board and take it up to them. We live close to Langley and our kids attend school there.

It seems odd that people who don’t live here or have kids who go to Langley care so much about having affordable housing being zoned to Langley.

I honestly don’t care one way or another. We won’t get moved since we live close by. Great Falls people may care since if too many people get zoned to Langley, parts of great falls would potentially get rezoned, which is what these other people who don’t live in Langley want.

I don’t think or care about any other pyramids. Other people seem to care too much about the demographics of Langley.

Exactly. Spot-on. It's beyond peculiar the amount of time and energy these posters (or probably it's just the one) put into fretting about the demographics of a school that doesn't affect them in any way whatsoever.

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Anonymous wrote:OP started off by asking about affordable areas zoned to Langley.

There are very few because officials have by design excluded more affordable areas from Langley while students living in expensive houses at the other end of the county go there. It’s crazy.

The situation would be different if some more affordable units were assigned to Langley. Some of these new projects are closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods.

Since Elaine Tholen, who was a shill for Langley, has retired from the School Board, it’s an appropriate time to take a fresh look at the situation.

I can't count how many times you have repeated exactly the same things, verbatim. Tell us, have you lobbied the SB with your "concerns" and asked them to "take a fresh look at the situation"? What do actually get out it by complaining about the same non-issues here on DCUM? And finally, what school do your kids go to? Still waiting.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, FCPS. Show you really give a crap about equity and assign this building to Langley, not Marshall:

https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/12/20/affordable-housing-development-breaks-ground-near-spring-hill-metro-station/#more-281987

Madison, Marshal and McLean are closer to Springhill Metro than Langley. What is the obsession with Langley.

Most neighborhoods zoned to Langley are closer to other schools than to Langley. No reason why this complex couldn’t be assigned to Langley.

I don’t think this is true. You are only talking about certain part of great falls.

We are zoned for Langley and on the McLean/Great Falls border and Langley is our closest high school.

Anything in Great Falls, Reston, Herndon, or Vienna zoned to Langley is closer to another high school than to Langley, and some neighborhoods in McLean zoned to Langley are also closer to McLean.

Again, no reason why the new affordable housing in Tysons/Vienna off Spring Hill Road couldn’t be assigned to Langley. Y’all always come up with phony reasons to justify the continued segregation.

This statement is not true. Langley is the closest high school for most of Great Falls east of the village.

Langley is the closest high school for some of Great Falls east of Great Falls Village, not all, and most of Great Falls is west of GFV.

DP. The point is that Langley is indeed the closest high school for most of GF. The end.

That’s not true. Most of Great Falls is west of Great Falls Village and closer to other high schools. And some of Great Falls east of Great Falls Village is closer to other schools as well.

The point is that it’s a farce to argue that the new affordable housing complex off Spring Hill Road can’t be assigned to Langley if it’s closer to other schools when so many current Langley neighborhoods are closer to other schools.

I have no opinion about your last paragraph because I don't care who is assigned to Langley. And it doesn't look like anyone is arguing against that in the first place.

But your first paragraph is simply untrue. There is no other high school that is closer to most of GF than Langley. The very far west GF neighborhoods are closer to Herndon, but that's it. And certainly, GF east of the Village is closer to Langley than any other school. I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here.

You seem rather dense - you are both incorrect when it comes to the facts and apparently incapable of understanding their implications.

Speaking of dense - I see you're incapable of refuting what I wrote. Do tell: which high school is closer to GF east of the Village? We'll wait while you consult some maps and realize how ignorant you look.

Again, most of Great Falls is west of Great Falls Village. And these areas typically are closer to Herndon, South Lakes, and perhaps other schools than to Langley.

With respect to Great Falls east of GFV, there are some areas to the northeast closer to Langley than to any other school. There are also areas southeast of GFV in Great Falls that are closer to Herndon, South Lakes, Madison, Marshall, and/or McLean than they are to Langley. To take but one example, the new Arden development in Great Falls is under 5 miles to Marshall, and just over 6 miles to McLean, but over 7 miles to Langley.

And the point - which you keep ignoring - is that if we're already willing to send kids in expensive houses to Langley even though other schools are closer, there would be no harm and in fact some benefit in reassigning new affordable housing in Tysons like Dominion Square West from Marshall (near capacity and projected to see substantial growth) to Langley (under capacity and projected to see little growth) even if Marshall is closer.

You really are an obnoxious defender of the status quo.

Good grief. I stated above (bolded, for your convenience) that I DO NOT CARE who is assigned to Langley. Send the kids in the affordable housing you mentioned to Langley! No one cares. But you don't have a say and neither do I, so the point is moot. And speaking of obnoxious, you are obnoxiously obsessing over this. And you still haven't told us what school your kids are zoned to and why you care so very, very deeply.

Seems you lied, and are pitching a hissy fit now that you got called out.

It’s a simple observation that, with affordable housing getting built closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods, the School Board - if it truly cares about equity and isn’t just totally full of crap - should assign some of it to under-enrolled Langley rather than load Marshall up with almost all of it.

"Lied"? About what? Most of GF east of the Village is indeed closer to Langley than any other school. You cherrypicked ONE development that is not. Which is weird that you would care about that - all of the houses in that area go to Langley. They're not going to carve out a special island and send it to a grossly overcrowded school, just to please you.

And no one is stopping you from lobbying the SB with your incessant demands - go for it. Not sure what repeatedly whining on this forum is going to do to help your cause.

Are you really that stupid, or just disingenuous?

The point was that Langley already has a ton of neighborhoods closer to other schools than to Langley. To some extent that’s inevitable because of Langley’s location.

Since that is the case, however, it’s then disingenuous to claim that some of the affordable housing getting built in Tysons - not far from current Langley neighborhoods- couldn’t be assigned there because it’s closer to Marshall.

Oh, the irony.

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Anonymous wrote:OP started off by asking about affordable areas zoned to Langley.

There are very few because officials have by design excluded more affordable areas from Langley while students living in expensive houses at the other end of the county go there. It’s crazy.

The situation would be different if some more affordable units were assigned to Langley. Some of these new projects are closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods.

Since Elaine Tholen, who was a shill for Langley, has retired from the School Board, it’s an appropriate time to take a fresh look at the situation.

OP asked for affordable areas zoned to Langley and for any other options for HS with good test scores with (town)house budget of $850-900K. Other posters also asked for suggestions.

Some replies have suggestions, some have links to real estate listing, but many are not helpful.

OP did not originally ask about other HS options. Sorry if it bothers you if posters have provided context for why it's a fool's errand to look for $850-900K housing zoned for a school whose boundaries have been deliberately crafted over the years to exclude more affordable housing.

DP. You know what else is a fool's errand? Whining about "deliberately crafted boundaries" on a website that no one from the SB even reads or cares about. Good luck to you on your quest.

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Anonymous wrote:OP started off by asking about affordable areas zoned to Langley.

There are very few because officials have by design excluded more affordable areas from Langley while students living in expensive houses at the other end of the county go there. It’s crazy.

The situation would be different if some more affordable units were assigned to Langley. Some of these new projects are closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods.

Since Elaine Tholen, who was a shill for Langley, has retired from the School Board, it’s an appropriate time to take a fresh look at the situation.

OP asked for affordable areas zoned to Langley and for any other options for HS with good test scores with (town)house budget of $850-900K. Other posters also asked for suggestions.

Some replies have suggestions, some have links to real estate listing, but many are not helpful.

OP did not originally ask about other HS options. Sorry if it bothers you if posters have provided context for why it's a fool's errand to look for $850-900K housing zoned for a school whose boundaries have been deliberately crafted over the years to exclude more affordable housing.

DP. You know what else is a fool's errand? Whining about "deliberately crafted boundaries" on a website that no one from the SB even reads or cares about. Good luck to you on your quest.

You spend a hell of a lot of time here defending the status quo at Langley if this is a site no one “reads or cares about.” More likely, it’s precisely because you expect some from FCPS and the SB read DCUM that you get so agitated.

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Anonymous wrote:OP started off by asking about affordable areas zoned to Langley.

There are very few because officials have by design excluded more affordable areas from Langley while students living in expensive houses at the other end of the county go there. It’s crazy.

The situation would be different if some more affordable units were assigned to Langley. Some of these new projects are closer to Langley than many current Langley neighborhoods.

Since Elaine Tholen, who was a shill for Langley, has retired from the School Board, it’s an appropriate time to take a fresh look at the situation.

OP asked for affordable areas zoned to Langley and for any other options for HS with good test scores with (town)house budget of $850-900K. Other posters also asked for suggestions.

Some replies have suggestions, some have links to real estate listing, but many are not helpful.

OP did not originally ask about other HS options. Sorry if it bothers you if posters have provided context for why it's a fool's errand to look for $850-900K housing zoned for a school whose boundaries have been deliberately crafted over the years to exclude more affordable housing.

DP. You know what else is a fool's errand? Whining about "deliberately crafted boundaries" on a website that no one from the SB even reads or cares about. Good luck to you on your quest.

You spend a hell of a lot of time here defending the status quo at Langley if this is a site no one “reads or cares about.” More likely, it’s precisely because you expect some from FCPS and the SB read DCUM that you get so agitated.

We all know that's exactly why YOU keep posting and repeating the same things, ad nauseum. You are just certain if you do it often enough, your complaints will get back to the SB and they will magically sit up and take notice that one anonymous poster is unhappy about a school her kids don't even attend. What a joke. Which is why we all wish you luck on your one-woman crusade.

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PP just pointed out one way FCPS might add some diversity to under-enrolled Langley. Why are you so hostile and insecure?

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Anonymous wrote:PP just pointed out one way FCPS might add some diversity to under-enrolled Langley. Why are you so hostile and insecure?

Who are you even talking to? There are many posters here.

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We are in the farthest Langley neighborhood and seriously considering pupil placing our kids at Herndon. The commute to Cooper and Langley is brutal. And they will have better college prospects.

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After watching some Langley parents at a Marshall basketball game yesterday (for example, taunting a Marshall freshman loudly to "turn it over again") I would steer away from Langley. It's win/be the best at all costs for them. There's a way to cheer for your team without being an a-hole.

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Anonymous wrote:After watching some Langley parents at a Marshall basketball game yesterday (for example, taunting a Marshall freshman loudly to "turn it over again") I would steer away from Langley. It's win/be the best at all costs for them. There's a way to cheer for your team without being an a-hole.

DISGUSTING.
However, my 12 year old just played a travel soccer team from Haymarket and those were the most vial adults i've ever encountered. Screaming at one of our players "I hope you get a concussion!!!" when she accidentally did an awkward header.

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Anonymous wrote:After watching some Langley parents at a Marshall basketball game yesterday (for example, taunting a Marshall freshman loudly to "turn it over again") I would steer away from Langley. It's win/be the best at all costs for them. There's a way to cheer for your team without being an a-hole.

DISGUSTING.
However, my 12 year old just played a travel soccer team from Haymarket and those were the most vial adults i've ever encountered. Screaming at one of our players "I hope you get a concussion!!!" when she accidentally did an awkward header.

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Anonymous wrote:After watching some Langley parents at a Marshall basketball game yesterday (for example, taunting a Marshall freshman loudly to "turn it over again") I would steer away from Langley. It's win/be the best at all costs for them. There's a way to cheer for your team without being an a-hole.

DISGUSTING.
However, my 12 year old just played a travel soccer team from Haymarket and those were the most vial adults i've ever encountered. Screaming at one of our players "I hope you get a concussion!!!" when she accidentally did an awkward header.

Crazy.

In this case it would have been fine for the Langley parent to yell “get another steal” to encourage his kid’s team but making fun of a 9th grader from another school seemed so unnecessary. Maybe the kids just take it in stride. I wanted to smack the guy, but stayed quiet.

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Anonymous wrote:After watching some Langley parents at a Marshall basketball game yesterday (for example, taunting a Marshall freshman loudly to "turn it over again") I would steer away from Langley. It's win/be the best at all costs for them. There's a way to cheer for your team without being an a-hole.

I have no idea what this even means.