Trump wins over Biden in NBC poll for the first time, as president’s approval craters to new low

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What happened to one term for Biden? https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129
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Anonymous wrote:Gosh, how will I decide between the guy the with 91 indictments or the guy with none…

You trolls are sad.


No one is trolling anyone. The polls say what they say. A better thing for you to ponder is why this is happening. Biden should be absolutely decimating Trump in the polls. But he isn't. He's losing among key D constituencies like young people and minorities.



The average iQ is 100. Most smart people hang up on unsolicited phone calls.


But there’s no IQ test to vote so . . . Sucks for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:What happened to one term for Biden? https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129


When you become president, you start to smell yourself a bit too much.
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Anonymous wrote:Gosh, how will I decide between the guy the with 91 indictments or the guy with none…

You trolls are sad.


No one is trolling anyone. The polls say what they say. A better thing for you to ponder is why this is happening. Biden should be absolutely decimating Trump in the polls. But he isn't. He's losing among key D constituencies like young people and minorities.



The average iQ is 100. Most smart people hang up on unsolicited phone calls.


But there’s no IQ test to vote so . . . Sucks for everyone.


Yep. And when news was only on one hour a day and it was neutral, dry and boring, low iQ people didn’t follow politics. Then Fox made it 24 hour infotainment and now they all think they’re smart and informed.
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Anonymous wrote:Gosh, how will I decide between the guy the with 91 indictments or the guy with none…

You trolls are sad.


No one is trolling anyone. The polls say what they say. A better thing for you to ponder is why this is happening. Biden should be absolutely decimating Trump in the polls. But he isn't. He's losing among key D constituencies like young people and minorities.



The average iQ is 100. Most smart people hang up on unsolicited phone calls.


But there’s no IQ test to vote so . . . Sucks for everyone.


Yep. And when news was only on one hour a day and it was neutral, dry and boring, low iQ people didn’t follow politics. Then Fox made it 24 hour infotainment and now they all think they’re smart and informed.


Hey, give CNN and Bush the first some credit, will ya?
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Pp. but I totally agree with you. I don’t know how we’d fix it, but 24 hour news is horrible for humanity.
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Anonymous wrote:What happened to one term for Biden? https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129


When you become president, you start to smell yourself a bit too much.


He walked back on that a long time ago. So what?
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^^^ obvious.

Biden has classified records for decades with no presidential authority.

Trump gets raided and charged.

Majority polling say it’s 2 tiered and also elections are not secure and include fraud. Trump has exposed the rot and everybody normal sees it.


The difference is that Biden was like "come search and take what shouldn't be here." Trump doubled down like the traitorous, lying turd he is. EVERYONE at certain levels in government takes stuff home, whether it should or should not. That is the 24 hour cycle we live in necessitates that. If you don't understand that, you have no idea what you're talking about (I work with fed executives routinely).
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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats truly cared so much about saving democracy, they wouldn't have governed as they have. If democracy is under threat, there is only one priority.

Yet look at what they've done the last few years. All it would really take is controlling the borders and a willingness not to pass massive incremental spending programs. Yet this is what we have, a close race with Trump.

Maybe they know something about the real threat to democracy.


Can you say with absolute certainty that Trump will voluntarily give up the presidency in January 2029, as required by the 22nd amendment? Biden will.


Can you say with absolute certainty that Biden will be alive and in good mental form up till November 2028 and that Harris is not as incompetent as she seems, should the worst happen?


So you won’t guarantee that Trump will give up the presidency after his second term?


DP: that Trump would do so is more likely than Biden reaching November 2028 in good shape.


The United States won’t be plunged into a constitutional crisis if Biden dies before his second term ends. But what happens if Trump refuses to abide by the 22nd amendment?


I love the paranoia. It's quite simple. Men with guns escort Turnip out of the WH. Which is kinda what they did in 2020.


Trump (eventually) went willingly in 2020. If he outright refuses next time, who would have the authority to remove him?


If Biden develops dementia and gets even angrier and launches a nuclear attack on China, who will stop him? Kamala? Don't make us laugh.


You are delusional. Biden only does mainstream things in line with longtime U.S. policy, in coordination with our allies, and carefully planned in detail by subject-matter experts and government agencies. Your guy was the lunatic who continually changed policies and made decisions without any knowledge or understanding or expert consultation based on something stupid that some idiot said on Fox News.


Are you kidding? He reversed Trump’s Iran policies (which were in line with the US's longterm Iran strategy, broken only briefly by Obama). Then, two years later, he changed his mind and went back to Trump’s Iran policies. That means he changed our foreign policy in the middle east twice in the span of as many years. That's erratic and irresponsible and lead to the war we are all now watching in horror.

He did the same thing at the border. Reversed Trump's policies, which were generally consistent with long term policy, and loosened the border controls. Then, again, two years later he changes his mind and goes back to Trump’s policies. This is insanity.

So many lies in this post. It’s so time consuming to fight against all the MAGA lies alls the time. It’s exhausting.


Where’s the lie?



A complete and utter joke to claim Trump
Is the only honest politician out of hundreds of couples. If the consequences of his never ending dishonesty weren’t so serious it would be funny.

You have some gall lecturing others on intellectual and personal honesty while holding up a politician who has been proven to have lied thousands of times as honest.


False or misleading statements by Donald Trump

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...nald_Trump

During his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of 6.1 per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described the scale of Trump's mendacity as "unprecedented" in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found "significant evidence" of an intent to deceive.[15]


Trump’s drumbeat of lies about the 2020 election keeps getting louder. Here are the facts

https://apnews.com/articl...e739fbb50d

WASHINGTON (AP) — With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.
It’s part of a multiyear effort to undermine public confidence in the American electoral process as he seeks to chart a return to the White House in 2024. There is evidence that his lies are resonating: New polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that 57% of Republicans believe Democrat Joe Biden was not legitimately elected as president.


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Anonymous wrote:If the democrats truly cared so much about saving democracy, they wouldn't have governed as they have. If democracy is under threat, there is only one priority.

Yet look at what they've done the last few years. All it would really take is controlling the borders and a willingness not to pass massive incremental spending programs. Yet this is what we have, a close race with Trump.

Maybe they know something about the real threat to democracy.


Can you say with absolute certainty that Trump will voluntarily give up the presidency in January 2029, as required by the 22nd amendment? Biden will.


Can you say with absolute certainty that Biden will be alive and in good mental form up till November 2028 and that Harris is not as incompetent as she seems, should the worst happen?


So you won’t guarantee that Trump will give up the presidency after his second term?


DP: that Trump would do so is more likely than Biden reaching November 2028 in good shape.


The United States won’t be plunged into a constitutional crisis if Biden dies before his second term ends. But what happens if Trump refuses to abide by the 22nd amendment?


I love the paranoia. It's quite simple. Men with guns escort Turnip out of the WH. Which is kinda what they did in 2020.


Trump (eventually) went willingly in 2020. If he outright refuses next time, who would have the authority to remove him?


If Biden develops dementia and gets even angrier and launches a nuclear attack on China, who will stop him? Kamala? Don't make us laugh.


You are delusional. Biden only does mainstream things in line with longtime U.S. policy, in coordination with our allies, and carefully planned in detail by subject-matter experts and government agencies. Your guy was the lunatic who continually changed policies and made decisions without any knowledge or understanding or expert consultation based on something stupid that some idiot said on Fox News.


Are you kidding? He reversed Trump’s Iran policies (which were in line with the US's longterm Iran strategy, broken only briefly by Obama). Then, two years later, he changed his mind and went back to Trump’s Iran policies. That means he changed our foreign policy in the middle east twice in the span of as many years. That's erratic and irresponsible and lead to the war we are all now watching in horror.

He did the same thing at the border. Reversed Trump's policies, which were generally consistent with long term policy, and loosened the border controls. Then, again, two years later he changes his mind and goes back to Trump’s policies. This is insanity.

So many lies in this post. It’s so time consuming to fight against all the MAGA lies alls the time. It’s exhausting.


Where’s the lie?



A complete and utter joke to claim Trump
Is the only honest politician out of hundreds of couples. If the consequences of his never ending dishonesty weren’t so serious it would be funny.

You have some gall lecturing others on intellectual and personal honesty while holding up a politician who has been proven to have lied thousands of times as honest.


False or misleading statements by Donald Trump

https://en.m.wikipedia.or...nald_Trump

During his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of 6.1 per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described the scale of Trump's mendacity as "unprecedented" in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found "significant evidence" of an intent to deceive.[15]


Trump’s drumbeat of lies about the 2020 election keeps getting louder. Here are the facts

https://apnews.com/articl...e739fbb50d

WASHINGTON (AP) — With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.
It’s part of a multiyear effort to undermine public confidence in the American electoral process as he seeks to chart a return to the White House in 2024. There is evidence that his lies are resonating: New polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that 57% of Republicans believe Democrat Joe Biden was not legitimately elected as president.




Sorry - just meant to post the links and info on all the endless lies that MAGA ignore -
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Trumps kids are healthy, happy and Ivy educated.

The country is healthier, happier (according to polls) and more powerful under Trump



Yikes. Are you blaming Biden for his son's cancer and death? Sicko.

Also you know that money buys entrance to elite schools, don't you. Just goes to show what an elitist Trump is.
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I'm scared.
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Trumps kids are healthy, happy and Ivy educated.

The country is healthier, happier (according to polls) and more powerful under Trump



Yikes. Are you blaming Biden for his son's cancer and death? Sicko.

Also you know that money buys entrance to elite schools, don't you. Just goes to show what an elitist Trump is.



Good point - one more piece of evidence that billionaire Trump has nothing in common with the vast majority of MAGA sycophants he cultivates ..,
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Anonymous wrote:Pp. but I totally agree with you. I don’t know how we’d fix it, but 24 hour news is horrible for humanity.


Yep. Many of us have watched our previously sane parents turn absolutely bat$hit.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone didn't learn from 2016 polls that polls are not always accurate.

Polls have also shown that the incumbent POTUS can be behind and still win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/us/politics/biden-trump-election-presidents-polling.html


+1

For the incumbent president to lose, you’d need a *major* economic, foreign policy or domestic crisis. And probably a combination of at least two. GDP is strong, the unemployment rate is low and inflation is trending downward. Nobody has to wear masks at the grocery store any more. And say what you will about Ukraine and Israel, but not one American soldier has died in those conflicts. From that vantage point, Biden is going to be very hard to beat.



Have you been living under a rock? We have had this already with Biden’s inflation exploding costs for everything.


Inflation’s going down, my friend. I know that makes you sad but it’s the reality.


Most things cost substantially more today than they did when Biden was inaugurated and wages have not kept pace. You can try to explain it away but anyone who goes grocery shopping knows it.



It sounds like you think the president just decides that things should cost more.


Rounds of stimulus checks followed by $1 trillion in infrastructure spending as inflation was rising. Economists were screaming that it was inflationary, but the administration argued that inflation was transitory. Everyone not invested in build back better passing saw this coming and said so at the time



Criminals who stole PPP money aside, people spent that money which improves the economy.

Should we let our infrastructure crumble? When should we pay for it?

Corporate profits at all time highs the past few years - maybe you need to direct some of your anger towards companies taking advantage the opportunity to excuse their price increases.


Biden should run on an 'inflation was necessary' platform. I'm sure it will go great


His "build back better" was so close to "make america great again." Not sure how everyone was ok with that so maybe 'inflation was necessary' would work lol.
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