Trump wins over Biden in NBC poll for the first time, as president’s approval craters to new low

[Anonymous]

Danny, what does "eliminated" mean?

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1726404482127331345

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone didn't learn from 2016 polls that polls are not always accurate.

Polls have also shown that the incumbent POTUS can be behind and still win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/us/politics/biden-trump-election-presidents-polling.html

+1

For the incumbent president to lose, you’d need a *major* economic, foreign policy or domestic crisis. And probably a combination of at least two. GDP is strong, the unemployment rate is low and inflation is trending downward. Nobody has to wear masks at the grocery store any more. And say what you will about Ukraine and Israel, but not one American soldier has died in those conflicts. From that vantage point, Biden is going to be very hard to beat.

Cough cough Bush the Elder cough cough.

And he wasn't as unpopular or hated as Biden was. And far more popular than Biden was at his peak.

As it is, I'm amused at younger voter's disapproval of Biden over Israel and Gaza. What are they going to do? Turn to Turnip? Who is staunchly pro Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People will get the government they deserve. I never understood the point of all this bellyaching.

+1Like people complaining about crime when they voted for people who are known to be lenient when dealing with criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone didn't learn from 2016 polls that polls are not always accurate.

Polls have also shown that the incumbent POTUS can be behind and still win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/us/politics/biden-trump-election-presidents-polling.html

+1

For the incumbent president to lose, you’d need a *major* economic, foreign policy or domestic crisis. And probably a combination of at least two. GDP is strong, the unemployment rate is low and inflation is trending downward. Nobody has to wear masks at the grocery store any more. And say what you will about Ukraine and Israel, but not one American soldier has died in those conflicts. From that vantage point, Biden is going to be very hard to beat.

Cough cough Bush the Elder cough cough.

And he wasn't as unpopular or hated as Biden was. And far more popular than Biden was at his peak.

As it is, I'm amused at younger voter's disapproval of Biden over Israel and Gaza. What are they going to do? Turn to Turnip? Who is staunchly pro Israel.

Donald Trump is no Bill Clinton

[Anonymous]

I’m a conservative and definitely want the Dems to keep the Biden/Harris ticket in 2024.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone didn't learn from 2016 polls that polls are not always accurate.

Polls have also shown that the incumbent POTUS can be behind and still win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/us/politics/biden-trump-election-presidents-polling.html

+1

For the incumbent president to lose, you’d need a *major* economic, foreign policy or domestic crisis. And probably a combination of at least two. GDP is strong, the unemployment rate is low and inflation is trending downward. Nobody has to wear masks at the grocery store any more. And say what you will about Ukraine and Israel, but not one American soldier has died in those conflicts. From that vantage point, Biden is going to be very hard to beat.

Cough cough Bush the Elder cough cough.

And he wasn't as unpopular or hated as Biden was. And far more popular than Biden was at his peak.

As it is, I'm amused at younger voter's disapproval of Biden over Israel and Gaza. What are they going to do? Turn to Turnip? Who is staunchly pro Israel.

Donald Trump is no Bill Clinton

Donald Trump is a much more popular politician than Bill Clinton. He’s involved in countless criminal trials, vilified by the press, and is beating Biden consistently in the polls. Bill Clinton was fawned over by the press and didn’t have these kinds of legal issues.

These national polls don’t matter as much as the polls that should really worry Dems. Look at the polls showing Trump up by double digits in some of the swing states like Arizona and Michigan. Trump is going to win back a lot of the Rust Belt states Biden won and win Nevada and Arizona as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the NY Post. Hello?

Soooooo, msnbc would say bidens ahead?

[Anonymous]

Someone is pushing hard to say Biden won’t win. Forget polls, look at votes. The Democratic party is strong. We’ve been on a winning streak since Trump was elected. Our grassroots are organized, our fundraising is strong and we’re kicking ass in elections.

Sure, you can all point to polls which are an indicator of a snapshot in time with nothing bound to real life. I choose to look at results. And the Republican Party is in deep do do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone didn't learn from 2016 polls that polls are not always accurate.

Polls have also shown that the incumbent POTUS can be behind and still win.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/16/us/politics/biden-trump-election-presidents-polling.html

+1

For the incumbent president to lose, you’d need a *major* economic, foreign policy or domestic crisis. And probably a combination of at least two. GDP is strong, the unemployment rate is low and inflation is trending downward. Nobody has to wear masks at the grocery store any more. And say what you will about Ukraine and Israel, but not one American soldier has died in those conflicts. From that vantage point, Biden is going to be very hard to beat.

Cough cough Bush the Elder cough cough.

And he wasn't as unpopular or hated as Biden was. And far more popular than Biden was at his peak.

As it is, I'm amused at younger voter's disapproval of Biden over Israel and Gaza. What are they going to do? Turn to Turnip? Who is staunchly pro Israel.

Donald Trump is no Bill Clinton

Donald Trump is a much more popular politician than Bill Clinton. He’s involved in countless criminal trials, vilified by the press, and is beating Biden consistently in the polls. Bill Clinton was fawned over by the press and didn’t have these kinds of legal issues.

These national polls don’t matter as much as the polls that should really worry Dems. Look at the polls showing Trump up by double digits in some of the swing states like Arizona and Michigan. Trump is going to win back a lot of the Rust Belt states Biden won and win Nevada and Arizona as well.

With the 6 voters per state he has managed to attract since 2020? Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Danny, what does "eliminated" mean?

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1726404482127331345

No longer in the race. Dummy.

[Anonymous]

The last three elections have shown us that polls are frequently wrong, haven't they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a conservative and definitely want the Dems to keep the Biden/Harris ticket in 2024.

Of course you do.

What could be worse for Dems.

[Anonymous]

I’m just hoping Joe can hang on for one more year. Looking forward to the debates.

What is the deadline to get a new Democrat on the ballot? Joe’s just gotta live past that date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone is pushing hard to say Biden won’t win. Forget polls, look at votes. The Democratic party is strong. We’ve been on a winning streak since Trump was elected. Our grassroots are organized, our fundraising is strong and we’re kicking ass in elections.

Sure, you can all point to polls which are an indicator of a snapshot in time with nothing bound to real life. I choose to look at results. And the Republican Party is in deep do do.

Haha! When will you realize that Trump transcends regular politics. People are shallow and obsessed with celebrities and Trump has a large contingent of shallow people that vote for him and could care less about conventional politics or voting in off year elections. Winning referendums on abortion in an off year election means nothing. Trump is an entirely different animal.

[Anonymous]

His followers are like Lemmings taking our country over a cliff.