In-bounds verification

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Horrors. I suggest making your own decisions about DCPS enrollment privately and confidently, based on your understanding of the rules, the laws, the risks and the benefits. You certainly don't need to answer to your neighbors' envy of the real property you can afford, or the judgements of those stopping by DCUM hoping to frighten and shame you into moving, going private or enrolling in an iffy IB school.

PS. If you're going to rent out/sublet a property you use for enrolment and filing taxes, don't be dumb enough to rent to a family with kids in a neighborhood not short on childless young people in need of housing. Keep things simple by avoiding the headaches associated with tenants with dependents and long-term rentals.

Nobody envies the crappy condo you kept from your single years while you lie to get your kid into the “better” school because you’re too good for Payne or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Come on, Hill parents of little kids without money to burn who bought on CH within the past few years tend to envy those who bought 10, 15 or 20 years ago. Those crappy starter 2BR row houses boundary cheaters tend to own were a bargain once upon a time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Horrors. I suggest making your own decisions about DCPS enrollment privately and confidently, based on your understanding of the rules, the laws, the risks and the benefits. You certainly don't need to answer to your neighbors' envy of the real property you can afford, or the judgements of those stopping by DCUM hoping to frighten and shame you into moving, going private or enrolling in an iffy IB school.

PS. If you're going to rent out/sublet a property you use for enrolment and filing taxes, don't be dumb enough to rent to a family with kids in a neighborhood not short on childless young people in need of housing. Keep things simple by avoiding the headaches associated with tenants with dependents and long-term rentals.

Nobody envies the crappy condo you kept from your single years while you lie to get your kid into the “better” school because you’re too good for Payne or whatever.

You send your kid to Payne, in 4th or 5th grade? If not, pipe down.

[Anonymous]

I think there are two conversations being had here:

1) Is it possible to claim an address you own but don't live in for purposes of getting into a better DCPS, even if you live OOB? The answer is yes, it is possible. As long as you get mail there and feel comfortable with the lie (and it is a lie, it's not your residence if you don't live there), you can do this and OSSE has made it clear they don't investigate or prosecute it.

2) Do people in DC consider this a cool and honorable way to get your kid into the DCPS of your choice? While I see there are posters claiming that yes, people are fine with this, there are clearly quite a few people how think it's crappy. Some people may not care what others think and will do it anyway, other people might decide it's not worth the judgment. I personally would be most uncomfortable with the message it sends to my kids, as the kids WILL figure it out at some point. I don't know about the wisdom of teaching children that taking advantage of a loophole by being somewhat dishonest is a good way of gaining advantage over others. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Horrors. I suggest making your own decisions about DCPS enrollment privately and confidently, based on your understanding of the rules, the laws, the risks and the benefits. You certainly don't need to answer to your neighbors' envy of the real property you can afford, or the judgements of those stopping by DCUM hoping to frighten and shame you into moving, going private or enrolling in an iffy IB school.

PS. If you're going to rent out/sublet a property you use for enrolment and filing taxes, don't be dumb enough to rent to a family with kids in a neighborhood not short on childless young people in need of housing. Keep things simple by avoiding the headaches associated with tenants with dependents and long-term rentals.

Nobody envies the crappy condo you kept from your single years while you lie to get your kid into the “better” school because you’re too good for Payne or whatever.

You send your kid to Payne, in 4th or 5th grade? If not, pipe down.

If you don't want to send your kid to Payne in 4th/5th, don't buy a house IB for Payne. Or do, and get comfy with the lottery. But buying IB for Payne, deciding Payne is an unacceptable option, and then using the address of your 1 bedroom condo over near the Capitol to get your kids into Brent is super sketchy. I don't care if OSSE prosecutes it or not, I think it sucks. Just sell your condo and your house and buy a house you can actually live in IB for Brent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Horrors. I suggest making your own decisions about DCPS enrollment privately and confidently, based on your understanding of the rules, the laws, the risks and the benefits. You certainly don't need to answer to your neighbors' envy of the real property you can afford, or the judgements of those stopping by DCUM hoping to frighten and shame you into moving, going private or enrolling in an iffy IB school.

PS. If you're going to rent out/sublet a property you use for enrolment and filing taxes, don't be dumb enough to rent to a family with kids in a neighborhood not short on childless young people in need of housing. Keep things simple by avoiding the headaches associated with tenants with dependents and long-term rentals.

Nobody envies the crappy condo you kept from your single years while you lie to get your kid into the “better” school because you’re too good for Payne or whatever.

You send your kid to Payne, in 4th or 5th grade? If not, pipe down.

If you don't want to send your kid to Payne in 4th/5th, don't buy a house IB for Payne. Or do, and get comfy with the lottery. But buying IB for Payne, deciding Payne is an unacceptable option, and then using the address of your 1 bedroom condo over near the Capitol to get your kids into Brent is super sketchy. I don't care if OSSE prosecutes it or not, I think it sucks. Just sell your condo and your house and buy a house you can actually live in IB for Brent.

I could not give less of a sht what you think and will do what works for my family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are two conversations being had here:

1) Is it possible to claim an address you own but don't live in for purposes of getting into a better DCPS, even if you live OOB? The answer is yes, it is possible. As long as you get mail there and feel comfortable with the lie (and it is a lie, it's not your residence if you don't live there), you can do this and OSSE has made it clear they don't investigate or prosecute it.

2) Do people in DC consider this a cool and honorable way to get your kid into the DCPS of your choice? While I see there are posters claiming that yes, people are fine with this, there are clearly quite a few people how think it's crappy. Some people may not care what others think and will do it anyway, other people might decide it's not worth the judgment. I personally would be most uncomfortable with the message it sends to my kids, as the kids WILL figure it out at some point. I don't know about the wisdom of teaching children that taking advantage of a loophole by being somewhat dishonest is a good way of gaining advantage over others. YMMV.

My children have been going to an OOB school for years (via the lottery) and that question has never come up. I don’t even think boundaries and the lottery is on their radar. Why would it be unless an adult brings it up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are two conversations being had here:

1) Is it possible to claim an address you own but don't live in for purposes of getting into a better DCPS, even if you live OOB? The answer is yes, it is possible. As long as you get mail there and feel comfortable with the lie (and it is a lie, it's not your residence if you don't live there), you can do this and OSSE has made it clear they don't investigate or prosecute it.

2) Do people in DC consider this a cool and honorable way to get your kid into the DCPS of your choice? While I see there are posters claiming that yes, people are fine with this, there are clearly quite a few people how think it's crappy. Some people may not care what others think and will do it anyway, other people might decide it's not worth the judgment. I personally would be most uncomfortable with the message it sends to my kids, as the kids WILL figure it out at some point. I don't know about the wisdom of teaching children that taking advantage of a loophole by being somewhat dishonest is a good way of gaining advantage over others. YMMV.

Lmao at the kids WILL figure it out. So many of the kids at every school are OOB that no one pays attention. And it would make my day if some parent thought they could get nosy with me.

[Anonymous]

We know a couple families at Brent in the upper grades who are probably boundary cheaters.They knock themselves out to keep up multiple row houses within half a mile of campus and to help the PTA. They didn’t take scarce ECE spots. I’ve never heard chatter about their residency situation. It’s not interesting to those of us who’ve been in the neighborhood for eons. We’d rather have them stick around than move to VA. Eyebrows may be raised in the part of relative newcomers to CH but the old guard doesn’t mind.

[Anonymous]

Agree. If you've been dug in on the Hill for a really long time, you tend to roll with other old timers getting creative on residency. You're tired of friends and neighbors you like leaving for the burbs over school issues. You leave stary-eyed approaches to recent arrivals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We know a couple families at Brent in the upper grades who are probably boundary cheaters.They knock themselves out to keep up multiple row houses within half a mile of campus and to help the PTA. They didn’t take scarce ECE spots. I’ve never heard chatter about their residency situation. It’s not interesting to those of us who’ve been in the neighborhood for eons. We’d rather have them stick around than move to VA. Eyebrows may be raised in the part of relative newcomers to CH but the old guard doesn’t mind.

You don't think they got in through the lottery at some point? You know that's a thing, especially in older grades, right?

[Anonymous]

Doubt it. They arrived in K, when there were few spots, and their smaller houses are near us, nicely kept up rentals. I feel like they have as strong a claim to Brent as anybody else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think there are two conversations being had here:

1) Is it possible to claim an address you own but don't live in for purposes of getting into a better DCPS, even if you live OOB? The answer is yes, it is possible. As long as you get mail there and feel comfortable with the lie (and it is a lie, it's not your residence if you don't live there), you can do this and OSSE has made it clear they don't investigate or prosecute it.

2) Do people in DC consider this a cool and honorable way to get your kid into the DCPS of your choice? While I see there are posters claiming that yes, people are fine with this, there are clearly quite a few people how think it's crappy. Some people may not care what others think and will do it anyway, other people might decide it's not worth the judgment. I personally would be most uncomfortable with the message it sends to my kids, as the kids WILL figure it out at some point. I don't know about the wisdom of teaching children that taking advantage of a loophole by being somewhat dishonest is a good way of gaining advantage over others. YMMV.

The way to blunt this criticism is stating that you lived in-boundary when your (first) kid started at the school and you subsequently moved.

You still get to remain in the school and your subsequent kid(s) get sibling preference.

I've heard this from multiple parents at my kid's school and I didn't bat an eye. Further, OSSE says this is completely allowable. This is probably the better way to address the issue and your kids don't need to hide anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree. If you've been dug in on the Hill for a really long time, you tend to roll with other old timers getting creative on residency. You're tired of friends and neighbors you like leaving for the burbs over school issues. You leave stary-eyed approaches to recent arrivals.

not really. I’d think you are a greedy tool if you maintain “multiple rowhouses” on the hill and lie to get into our IB. also you best not be an “active parent”
complaining about every dang thing at the school not being perfect.

[Anonymous]

I don't care for your churlish outlook, PP, and don't get the greedy part. Some of us bought CH starter row houses when they cost a third of what they would now. The DCPS ES landscape in Ward 6 hasn't been straightforward in this century; it sits on shifting sands. Watkins was far and away the most popular option when we arrived, but it's star has fallen far since the charter boom kicked off. LT attracted few IB parents just 7 or 8 years back. Maury was almost sold off to developers 15 years ago. Longtime Hill homeowners who aren't wealthy do the best they can on schools. Active PTA parents always welcome, whatever the mode of their arrival.