In-bounds verification

[Anonymous]

It's very easy to look up who owns a house and if they're getting the homestead deduction for it, so I'd make sure you are taking that on the house that's IB for the school where you enroll. It only takes one busybody parent to check on that for you to have a headache to untangle...and it doesn't look great for nominations, security clearances, bar admissions, and the like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the properties are yours and you’re not formally renting either or you’re moving back and forth between them seasonally, do what you want. Hint: DC isn’t an authoritarian state.

that last bit is a nonsequitur. DC isn’t an “authoritarian state” but it does have laws. when you sign the OSSE residency form you are attesting under penalty of perjury that you actually live at that address - not that you own the property. you probably won’t get caught but please be clear on this - there is no property ownership loophole for school boundaries in DC.

. No loophole, so what. Live at the address when you enroll the kids then move if you want, that’s legal. No discussion to be had. End of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When my kids were in elementary I knew several families who were enrollment cheats. It seemed like a constant stressor for them, having to teach the kids to lie when asked where they live and always having to come up with excuses why they couldn't do playdates or carpool to soccer or birthday parties.

If you have the money to own several homes you don't need that stress.

Some kids actually lottery in to these schools, so just because they don't live IB does not mean they are enrollment cheats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my kids were in elementary I knew several families who were enrollment cheats. It seemed like a constant stressor for them, having to teach the kids to lie when asked where they live and always having to come up with excuses why they couldn't do playdates or carpool to soccer or birthday parties.

If you have the money to own several homes you don't need that stress.

Some kids actually lottery in to these schools, so just because they don't live IB does not mean they are enrollment cheats.

Yeah I wonder how many of my kids friends parents think we are enrollment cheats. We got our spots through the lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to actually live there, at least at the time of enrollment. Owning property isn't enough. They might not check, but if you want to know the rule, it's that you have to live there.

Consider how you would explain it to other parents if you want to have any playdates at your house. There's a lot of social shade thrown at boundary cheaters.

I think it’s actually ambiguous if you have multiple houses that no one lives in, especially if you could legitimately meet the residency documentation requirements at multiple of them. Then for most legal purposes, you could claim any as your residence. If what you mean is you own a house you rent out to someone else, then legally they can claim that as their residence and you cannot.

Yes, I think that's right. I know of a family that lives in bounds for Garrison but owns property in Dupont and I know their kids go to Ross. So people can fudge a bit.

There are many families that do this and I think it’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

You sound jealous of parents who can afford multiple residential properties in DC. I can’t see who they’re hurting in the DCPS ES residency game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's very easy to look up who owns a house and if they're getting the homestead deduction for it, so I'd make sure you are taking that on the house that's IB for the school where you enroll. It only takes one busybody parent to check on that for you to have a headache to untangle...and it doesn't look great for nominations, security clearances, bar admissions, and the like.

so you think illegally taking the homestead deduction for a home that you don’t live in is a good idea for your security clearance??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound jealous of parents who can afford multiple residential properties in DC. I can’t see who they’re hurting in the DCPS ES residency game.

Nobody is jealous and I’m sure many people get away with it. But to be clear, it’s fraud and perjury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's very easy to look up who owns a house and if they're getting the homestead deduction for it, so I'd make sure you are taking that on the house that's IB for the school where you enroll. It only takes one busybody parent to check on that for you to have a headache to untangle...and it doesn't look great for nominations, security clearances, bar admissions, and the like.

so you think illegally taking the homestead deduction for a home that you don’t live in is a good idea for your security clearance??

no, I think you should live where you want to be IB and take the homestead deduction on that property.

[Anonymous]

OK, so it’s fraud and perjury, and?

Non issue, peccadillo, unimportant.

Find a cause worth pursuing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When my kids were in elementary I knew several families who were enrollment cheats. It seemed like a constant stressor for them, having to teach the kids to lie when asked where they live and always having to come up with excuses why they couldn't do playdates or carpool to soccer or birthday parties.

If you have the money to own several homes you don't need that stress.

Some kids actually lottery in to these schools, so just because they don't live IB does not mean they are enrollment cheats.

Our PTA published a school directory, they didn't live at the address in the directory. I remember one year for my kid's birthday party I offered to pick everyone up. A couple of parents quickly came up with excuses why they didn't want that, they would drop the kids off. Then I remembered they didn't live at the address in the book.

[Anonymous]

Of all the issues in DC in general and with DCPS specifically, it blows my mind that people care about boundary fraud. Definition of a victimless “crime”.

[Anonymous]

Just send your kid to private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the properties are yours and you’re not formally renting either or you’re moving back and forth between them seasonally, do what you want. Hint: DC isn’t an authoritarian state.

that last bit is a nonsequitur. DC isn’t an “authoritarian state” but it does have laws. when you sign the OSSE residency form you are attesting under penalty of perjury that you actually live at that address - not that you own the property. you probably won’t get caught but please be clear on this - there is no property ownership loophole for school boundaries in DC.

There is also no boundary law on the books to break for DC residents. Only out of state residents.

[Anonymous]

These are the attestation you make when you sign the form. None of which are about specific addresses within the city. The first row just reference that the documents are authentic (which they would be) and the person lives in the District. PPs talking about intention blah blah blah, care to point out where those are?

• I certify that I am the adult student or the student’s legal parent, guardian, custodian, or Other Primary Caregiver and am submitting valid and proper residency documentation accordingly or have identified myself as a non-resident and understand the required tuition agreement and tuition payment needed for enrollment.
• I certify that I have established and will maintain a physical presence in the District, defined as the “actual occupation and inhabitance of a place of abode with the intent to dwell for a continuous period of time”; and I am submitting valid and proper documentation to verify residency, as set forth in 5A DCMR § 5004; or, I have identified myself as a non-resident and will complete the required tuition agreement and tuition payment.
• I consent to the disclosure of whether I was determined to meet the residency requirements for any government funded financial assistance program (such as, Medicaid, TANF, or SNAP) in which I am enrolled for the sole purpose of verifying District residency for DC public or charter school enrollment. By signing below, I am saying: I authorize OSSE to obtain my personally identifiable DC residency status information from other state or federal agencies, including but not limited to, the DC Department of Human Services (DHS), the DC Housing Authority (DCHA), and the Department of Health Care Finance (DHCF). OSSE will protect my information and follow all applicable laws regarding the protection and use of this information.
• I understand that enrollment of the above-named student in District of Columbia Public Schools, public charter schools, or other schools providing educational services funded by the District of Columbia is based on my representation of bona-fide DC residency, including this sworn statement of physical presence and my submission of valid and proper documentation verifying residency or by completion of a tuition agreement and tuition payments.
• I understand that even if the documentation I provide appears to be satisfactory, OSSE or school officials, with reasonable basis, may seek further information to verify the student’s residency or the Other Primary Caregiver status of the adult enrolling the student.
• If the District of Columbia, through OSSE, determines that I am not a resident or an approved non-resident under 5A DCMR § 5007, I understand that I am liable for payment of retroactive tuition for the student, and that the student may be withdrawn from school.
• I understand that if I provide false information or documentation, I can be referred to DC Office of the Inspector General for criminal prosecution or to the DC Office of the Attorney General for prosecution under the False Claims Act and under DC Code § 38-312 which provides that any person who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both a fine and imprisonment.
• I understand that this form and all supporting documentation to this form, including all other OSSE forms used to verify residency, will be retained by the school. I consent to their disclosure to OSSE, external auditors, and other District agencies including but not limited to the DC Office of the Inspector General and the DC Office of the Attorney General, upon request, for the purposes of ensuring the accuracy of my District residency.
• I understand that the District of Columbia may use whatever legal means it has at its disposal to verify my residence.
• I agree to notify the school of any change of residence for myself or the student within three school days of such change and complete a DC Residency Verification Form.