Where are all the Ivy admits coming from you wonder? Dalton NYC 2023 Matriculations

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Anonymous wrote:I looked through McLean High admits and was very impressed and also very happy for the students. They had several to Harvard, several to Yale, and to all the other Ivys plus top schools, and a bunch to VA state school as well. Pretty impressive for public school kids without the resources and directed attention that private school kids receive.

For elite private schools, I would expect that there are a significant number of Ivy admits.

I mean good for them and all but we’re talking about McLean. I don’t think they’re hurting for resources in or out of school.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like a lot of people here are overly obsessed with the ivies.

Laypeople have never heard of the NESCAC schools & any other school that lacks a dominant football or basketball team. You can pretend that doesn’t matter, but it does during HR resumé screening.

NESCAC schools have a brand issue. Also, many kids don't want to be in small schools in the middle of nowhere where 30 to 40% of kids could be student athletes. I tried to convince my dc interested in STEM to apply, they did not because of above reasons. At a larger school they have a lot of research opportunities and being in a major city has also helped.

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Chilton did amazing this year.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

I know tins of east and south asian multi-multi millionaires in NYC. New money hedge fund/PE people. It's not just wasp's these days who can be rich. That said, I agree w/ your bigger point. Why are these kids winning at the college lottery at Dalton vs. DC private school asian kids who did struggle this year with just one or two exceptions at our local DC private school

perhaps the NYC parents of asian kids donated more to colleges. Or perhaps those schools just have better college process/rigor/reputations w/ top 30 schools that our vaunted DC schools do

As an Indian-American,

Umc/rich Indian-Americans in New York are VERY different from Indian-Americans in Bethesda and NOVA

The former are way more polished the latter are way more dorkier

Que viva la dork! This is why I live in DC area and not NYC. Also my in-laws live in NYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I looked through McLean High admits and was very impressed and also very happy for the students. They had several to Harvard, several to Yale, and to all the other Ivys plus top schools, and a bunch to VA state school as well. Pretty impressive for public school kids without the resources and directed attention that private school kids receive.

For elite private schools, I would expect that there are a significant number of Ivy admits.

I mean good for them and all but we’re talking about McLean. I don’t think they’re hurting for resources in or out of school.

I get that the typical McLean kid will have resources, but it takes a lot of resourcefulness to seek out the opportunities yourself. They're not handed to you or so obvious for the taking. We moved our kids from private to public and can see the difference. Both have pros and cons.

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Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

None of these kids go to remotely competitive privates, signed NYC private school parent.

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Dalton offers the most FA and has the most diverse population for an NYC TT school. These are the most desirable kids - a known quantity for diversity. Not a risk for Ivies at all. Add to that legacy and big donors and their matriculation is no surprise.

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Interestingly I’ve noticed that Harvard-Westlake in LA doesn’t have students who make an Instagram page like this (although it has VERY detailed College matriculation data). Not finding any on Marlborough in LA either.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton offers the most FA and has the most diverse population for an NYC TT school. These are the most desirable kids - a known quantity for diversity. Not a risk for Ivies at all. Add to that legacy and big donors and their matriculation is no surprise.

Urban poor kids have a lot of advantages compared to rural poor kids. Private day schools that offer significant FA, Prep for Prep, Posse, public transportation everywhere, city rec sports & music programs, and high-quality non-profits around to learn & practice various ECs

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Anonymous wrote:The parent population at top NYC privates is in an entirely different league than DC’s.

I’m not sure exactly where the kids of Katie Holmes, Sarah Jessica Parker, Emily Blunt (if they’re back in NYC now), Drew Barrymore, Tina Fey etc go to school in NYC, but presumably top NYC privates. And I bet they’re far from the wealthiest parents of kids at those schools when you take into account NYC finance parents. Unlike DC privates that have a lot of civil servants making $180k/year.

None of these kids go to remotely competitive privates, signed NYC private school parent.

Kewl story

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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/03/09/prep-for-prep-and-the-fault-lines-in-new-yorks-schools

So screw poor white kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like a lot of people here are overly obsessed with the ivies.

Laypeople have never heard of the NESCAC schools & any other school that lacks a dominant football or basketball team. You can pretend that doesn’t matter, but it does during HR resumé screening.

Employers and grad schools know NESCAC schools. Who cares if Joe and Jane Doe do not

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like a lot of people here are overly obsessed with the ivies.

Laypeople have never heard of the NESCAC schools & any other school that lacks a dominant football or basketball team. You can pretend that doesn’t matter, but it does during HR resumé screening.

Employers and grad schools know NESCAC schools. Who cares if Joe and Jane Doe do not

Most employers outside DC/Boston/NYC haven’t heard of the NESCAC schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like a lot of people here are overly obsessed with the ivies.

Laypeople have never heard of the NESCAC schools & any other school that lacks a dominant football or basketball team. You can pretend that doesn’t matter, but it does during HR resumé screening.

NESCAC schools have a brand issue. Also, many kids don't want to be in small schools in the middle of nowhere where 30 to 40% of kids could be student athletes. I tried to convince my dc interested in STEM to apply, they did not because of above reasons. At a larger school they have a lot of research opportunities and being in a major city has also helped.

What you’re saying is fit is most important. For example, many students who grew up in rural areas often want to go to school in a city whereas my kids who grew up in Manhattan wanted more rural.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like a lot of people here are overly obsessed with the ivies.

Laypeople have never heard of the NESCAC schools & any other school that lacks a dominant football or basketball team. You can pretend that doesn’t matter, but it does during HR resumé screening.

Employers and grad schools know NESCAC schools. Who cares if Joe and Jane Doe do not

Most employers outside DC/Boston/NYC haven’t heard of the NESCAC schools

Just because you say so doesn’t make it true. National companies recruit in smaller schools too