FCPS statement on NMF issue

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know why but I’m surprised to see the Dems turn into victim blamers. If you could look outside your political blinders for a minute - FCPS did screw up here. I’m not say deliberately but negligently.

It’s not cool that kids didn’t have this info for college apps. If your kid had this you would want to know. College admissions are so hard today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why but I’m surprised to see the Dems turn into victim blamers. If you could look outside your political blinders for a minute - FCPS did screw up here. I’m not say deliberately but negligently.

It’s not cool that kids didn’t have this info for college apps. If your kid had this you would want to know. College admissions are so hard today.

So hard, in fact, that except for a very limited set of circumstances, this award wouldn’t matter. Countless admissions officers have gone public insisting such.

Yes, they should have been distributed in a timely manner. No, it’s not a big deal that they weren’t. End of story.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why but I’m surprised to see the Dems turn into victim blamers. If you could look outside your political blinders for a minute - FCPS did screw up here. I’m not say deliberately but negligently.

It’s not cool that kids didn’t have this info for college apps. If your kid had this you would want to know. College admissions are so hard today.

So hard, in fact, that except for a very limited set of circumstances, this award wouldn’t matter. Countless admissions officers have gone public insisting such.

Yes, they should have been distributed in a timely manner. No, it’s not a big deal that they weren’t. End of story.

It's not your reward-you don't get to say what is a "big deal" to someone else. How arrogant!

[Anonymous]

What’s arrogant is wasting all this time and money demanding an investigation into a piece of paper saying your kid is a runner up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s arrogant is wasting all this time and money demanding an investigation into a piece of paper saying your kid is a runner up.

No, what's arrogant is believing you get to determine what is important or not to some other person who EARNED it.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s arrogant is wasting all this time and money demanding an investigation into a piece of paper saying your kid is a runner up.

No, what's arrogant is believing you get to determine what is important or not to some other person who EARNED it.

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I do not understand why FCPS administration could not have gone to each school and ask what happened that they dropped the ball. The principal and Student Services should have been able to answer.

There are lots of excuses they could use. Staff could have been sick. Could have had new staff that was not aware of the process, etc.

The question is: have they always dropped the ball on this or was this a decision to delay or omit.

Reid herself could have emailed eight principals to get that information. This is not hard.

[Anonymous]

cont--But, since they did pay for a report--they could redact names and release the whole report--not spin it out as she did.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s arrogant is wasting all this time and money demanding an investigation into a piece of paper saying your kid is a runner up.

+1600

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

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We need to recognize and appreciate academic efforts of students to promote its value and encourage other students to strive hard. Unless there is a culture of seeing academic efforts as something to be proud of, educational standards will suffer.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to recognize and appreciate academic efforts of students to promote its value and encourage other students to strive hard. Unless there is a culture of seeing academic efforts as something to be proud of, educational standards will suffer.

Ok. Good thing that is already happening.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

+1

Waste of time for overworked, understaffed staff - NMSC should have just notified themselves.