FCPS statement on NMF issue

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

They did follow through with the results. Just not as quickly on the third-tier results as some RWNJs expected.

NMSC should notify all winners electronically. It’s 2023; why are they using paper certificates FFS. It’s just a waste of time for FCPS staff.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

Staff is probably too busy completing FOIA requests and all of the extra work generated by Trumpers.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

Staff is probably too busy completing FOIA requests and all of the extra work generated by Trumpers.

Mic drop. End the thread right here.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

This is a 3rd party that the school district has determined is very important that they pay millions of dollars to them so students can take their tests.
National Merit is separate from College Board, but still it is not appropriate to call them just a 3rd party.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

This is a 3rd party that the school district has determined is very important that they pay millions of dollars to them so students can take their tests.
National Merit is separate from College Board, but still it is not appropriate to call them just a 3rd party.

An antiquated service provider that needs to enter the 21st century?

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

Someone up thread said her FCPS kid didn't get it on time years ago. There's an assumption this was never an issue before this year, but I haven't seen any reporting that supports that assumption.

There also seems to be an air of sour grapes over the lack of public acknowledgment of the commended status.

And to the pp who asked why Dr. Reid didn't just email the schools to figure out what happened - because of the accusations by that lady from TJ and her followers and the launch of an investigation by the Atty General. Those folks would never be satisfied by an internal investigation alone. Hell, half of the complainers on this thread aren't even satisfied by the 3rd party investigation.

FCPS should have handed them out in a timely fashion or should have refused and told NMSC to do it, absolutely. But as I've said umpteen times, it's the worst conspiracy theory ever to say they were deliberately withheld because of equity.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

To make sure kids get practice for the SAT and the opportunity to be a semi finalist so they can get be in the running for a scholarship. All of that was accomplished and has nothing to do with handing out commended certificates.

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

Someone up thread said her FCPS kid didn't get it on time years ago. There's an assumption this was never an issue before this year, but I haven't seen any reporting that supports that assumption.

There also seems to be an air of sour grapes over the lack of public acknowledgment of the commended status.

And to the pp who asked why Dr. Reid didn't just email the schools to figure out what happened - because of the accusations by that lady from TJ and her followers and the launch of an investigation by the Atty General. Those folks would never be satisfied by an internal investigation alone. Hell, half of the complainers on this thread aren't even satisfied by the 3rd party investigation.

FCPS should have handed them out in a timely fashion or should have refused and told NMSC to do it, absolutely. But as I've said umpteen times, it's the worst conspiracy theory ever to say they were deliberately withheld because of equity.

Or, to put it more bluntly, that’s a Republican lie.

A fabrication to fearmonger.

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FCPS should have handed them out in a timely fashion or should have refused and told NMSC to do it, absolutely. But as I've said umpteen times, it's the worst conspiracy theory ever to say they were deliberately withheld because of equity.

Well, there has to be some explanation of why they didn't give them.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are repeating this talking point of a third party corporation is expecting the school staff to do their work for them. This happens all the time. Those flyers that are sent out by schools, included a lot more work by staff to include the corporations' material into the flyers. Sometimes thru PTA, others directly by school staff. And this is not some random corporate money making opportunity, but one of the most well known academic awards in the country, albeit not the Commended status.

But how hard would it be for that company to just email the kids the info? This is the thing.

They do it for the real winners; the semi-finalists get notifications from the College Board. Maybe they view commended as being worthless. All it signifies is that a kid did well on the PSAT. Does anyone really care? Do colleges that ignore SATs and ACTs really care about a years old PSAT score?

There are about 3X more commended students than semifinalists, but all are in the top 4% of test takers. I think some of the Democrats are going to regret the dismissive way they referred to kids whose academic records are, with few exceptions, far above and beyond the accomplishments of politicians like Stella Pekarsky, Laura Jane Cohen, Karl Frisch, etc.

And, many would be semi-finalists in another state.

Then go live in those states.......wah, wah, wah......

Somehow, expecting the school system to do something they should be happy and pleased to do bothers you?

Distributing literature from an organization whose primary function is to sell student information to marketers so that kids can receive years of junk mail?

You're clearly too cool for school, but this nihilism in the service of a blatantly left-wing political agenda won't work out well in the end.

More Republican lies.

Do you get paid by the lie?

Not a Republican but it’s repugnant that we have people like Nardos King on the payroll who do little but post Tweets on Hayfield basketball players while academic success in FCPS is regularly denigrated by Democratic hacks. FCPS is a joke.

The only people denigrating FCPS are POS republicans.

Well, I have no idea who you are--I'm not the only one on here criticizing FCPS--but, it is clear that you are going to defend FCPS no matter what they do. I disagree with Asra on many things but I don't think it is asking too much for the schools to do their jobs. Too many things are falling through the cracks in this system.

How is it their job to distribute papers for a third party?

Like it or not - That actually was their job here.

Disagree. There was no clarity about how it was to be done or by when. College Board simply send the names to the school.

They have been doing this for years. No excuse for dropping the ball on this. Priorities are clearly not on academics.

And, to the person saying they are "runners Up." Even "runners up" get acknowledged. And, some of those schools had NO semi-finalists, so even more important to acknowledge the success.

Delivering paper from 3rd party has nothing to do with delivering academics.

I’d rather have staff support teachers and schools on the actual education vs 3rd party paperwork.

Then, why does FCPS pay for the PSAT if tjey don't want to follow through with the results? Please answer that question.

Very easy to answer: to ensure all students have access. You can’t sit here and tell me no black, brown, poor kids would all take it if barriers such as cost and timing were not removed.

And, you don't want those kids to be acknowledged if they are commended? You seem to think they wouldn't have the means to take the test--do you think the parents would have the access to the scores or the information they need?

Again. the schools have done this for years. There is no excuse to stop doing it. It's not that hard to hand out a certificate. Means much more than receiving it in the mail. It shows that the school is aware of the achievement. It also lets the teachers know about the achievement. It is not insignificant.

dP. Of course they should be acknowledged. By the entity that is creating the standard and the award.

They were acknowledged and notified, and any minimal issues created by the timing were rectified quickly.

It shouldn’t have been a federal case. To make it one exposed the clown crew for what they are.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS should have handed them out in a timely fashion or should have refused and told NMSC to do it, absolutely. But as I've said umpteen times, it's the worst conspiracy theory ever to say they were deliberately withheld because of equity.

This whole thing started with a school official lying and saying they were withheld because of equity. Not in those words, but something about not wanting kids to feel left out.