Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

Disagree. If you are in a class with engaged students, answering questions, raising hands, participating with one another, that is not the same as being in a classroom where you are the only one sitting in the first row or two, without teacher redirection. The only student raising their hand. Repeatedly, until the teacher stops calling on you in hope that someone else will participate. Where students are not one their phones, or making noise, or banging on the walls or desks (yes, true story from my friend the substitute teacher). Let's not pretend the same opportunities to learn, or be in a safe environment in the halls or bathrooms or parking lot, present themselves at every school. A good student will have a much harder time with success IMO.

Look I get you to want to convince others of this folly because you paid extra for this "good" school, but AP English or Calc BC is the same everywhere. Sure, the school in the more affluent area may have 6 sections of AP English whereas others may have 4 but the same kid can do exactly the same at either school. And in MCPS don't try to pretend there's any real difference, kids are running around schools like Whitman and Churchill with knives this year and those schools also are infamous for the drug use.

No, this is not true. See scores at the various MCPS high schools or read commentary on AP Teacher FB groups. - AP teacher

You're definitely not an AP teacher

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

Isn't PHS supposed to be falling down?

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/facilities/construction/project/poolesvillehs.aspx

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

Schools don't have a socioeconomic status.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

Schools don't have a socioeconomic status.

Sounds like you're new to DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

There are newly renovated schools and long-neglected schools in areas all around the county.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

Schools don't have a socioeconomic status.

Sounds like you're new to DCUM.

LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

Disagree. If you are in a class with engaged students, answering questions, raising hands, participating with one another, that is not the same as being in a classroom where you are the only one sitting in the first row or two, without teacher redirection. The only student raising their hand. Repeatedly, until the teacher stops calling on you in hope that someone else will participate. Where students are not one their phones, or making noise, or banging on the walls or desks (yes, true story from my friend the substitute teacher). Let's not pretend the same opportunities to learn, or be in a safe environment in the halls or bathrooms or parking lot, present themselves at every school. A good student will have a much harder time with success IMO.

Look I get you to want to convince others of this folly because you paid extra for this "good" school, but AP English or Calc BC is the same everywhere. Sure, the school in the more affluent area may have 6 sections of AP English whereas others may have 4 but the same kid can do exactly the same at either school. And in MCPS don't try to pretend there's any real difference, kids are running around schools like Whitman and Churchill with knives this year and those schools also are infamous for the drug use.

No, this is not true. See scores at the various MCPS high schools or read commentary on AP Teacher FB groups. - AP teacher

You're definitely not an AP teacher

For 13 years - sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

Disagree. If you are in a class with engaged students, answering questions, raising hands, participating with one another, that is not the same as being in a classroom where you are the only one sitting in the first row or two, without teacher redirection. The only student raising their hand. Repeatedly, until the teacher stops calling on you in hope that someone else will participate. Where students are not one their phones, or making noise, or banging on the walls or desks (yes, true story from my friend the substitute teacher). Let's not pretend the same opportunities to learn, or be in a safe environment in the halls or bathrooms or parking lot, present themselves at every school. A good student will have a much harder time with success IMO.

Look I get you to want to convince others of this folly because you paid extra for this "good" school, but AP English or Calc BC is the same everywhere. Sure, the school in the more affluent area may have 6 sections of AP English whereas others may have 4 but the same kid can do exactly the same at either school. And in MCPS don't try to pretend there's any real difference, kids are running around schools like Whitman and Churchill with knives this year and those schools also are infamous for the drug use.

No, this is not true. See scores at the various MCPS high schools or read commentary on AP Teacher FB groups. - AP teacher

You're definitely not an AP teacher

For 13 years - sorry.

Sounds like your school needs a visit from the diversity bus!

[Anonymous]

Interesting meetings on the new boundary study last week. You can check out the public hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVY3FeefiHc and the BOE work session here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D5w0PN_vM

The BOE "working session" was a robust marathon session that lasted a whopping 15 minutes, but the hearing and the community views presented there were interesting to listen to. Was heartening to see that views were almost all in support of this study - I think it's long overdue - and that the biggest issue seems to be that this scope doesn't go far enough and should include several other high schools. The work session was focused primarily on making sure hard to reach communities are actually accessed meaningfully this time around so that they are not drowned out by others whose views are more easily accessible.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting meetings on the new boundary study last week. You can check out the public hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVY3FeefiHc and the BOE work session here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D5w0PN_vM

The BOE "working session" was a robust marathon session that lasted a whopping 15 minutes, but the hearing and the community views presented there were interesting to listen to. Was heartening to see that views were almost all in support of this study - I think it's long overdue - and that the biggest issue seems to be that this scope doesn't go far enough and should include several other high schools. The work session was focused primarily on making sure hard to reach communities are actually accessed meaningfully this time around so that they are not drowned out by others whose views are more easily accessible.

When the boundary options will be presented and when final decision will be made? Is there a document in MCPS website with details?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting meetings on the new boundary study last week. You can check out the public hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVY3FeefiHc and the BOE work session here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D5w0PN_vM

The BOE "working session" was a robust marathon session that lasted a whopping 15 minutes, but the hearing and the community views presented there were interesting to listen to. Was heartening to see that views were almost all in support of this study - I think it's long overdue - and that the biggest issue seems to be that this scope doesn't go far enough and should include several other high schools. The work session was focused primarily on making sure hard to reach communities are actually accessed meaningfully this time around so that they are not drowned out by others whose views are more easily accessible.

When the boundary options will be presented and when final decision will be made? Is there a document in MCPS website with details?

Boundary options will be presented sometime in 2024, and the final decision will be made in March 2025.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/CPCRMG689EA8/$file/FY2024%20Cap%20Bdgt%20FY2023-2028%20Amend%20CIP%20ADA%20Facilites%20Update%20230223%20PPT.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting meetings on the new boundary study last week. You can check out the public hearing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVY3FeefiHc and the BOE work session here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4D5w0PN_vM

The BOE "working session" was a robust marathon session that lasted a whopping 15 minutes, but the hearing and the community views presented there were interesting to listen to. Was heartening to see that views were almost all in support of this study - I think it's long overdue - and that the biggest issue seems to be that this scope doesn't go far enough and should include several other high schools. The work session was focused primarily on making sure hard to reach communities are actually accessed meaningfully this time around so that they are not drowned out by others whose views are more easily accessible.

When the boundary options will be presented and when final decision will be made? Is there a document in MCPS website with details?

Boundary options will be presented sometime in 2024, and the final decision will be made in March 2025.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/CPCRMG689EA8/$file/FY2024%20Cap%20Bdgt%20FY2023-2028%20Amend%20CIP%20ADA%20Facilites%20Update%20230223%20PPT.pdf

Thanks.

My guess is as good as anyone else's but I think 3 Tilden kids will join Woodward and NB kids will join WJ. Then some kids of DCC join both( may be one elementary each). IN additional some shifting from BCC/DCC/Whitman boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

tell me you go to a DCC or NCC school without saying it that is like saying all burger joints are the same because they all serve burgers and fires. the clientele, Facilites and the staff make all the difference. There are some restaurants most of us would never go in because of the people who frequent them, same could be said of some of the lower SES schools. If youre happy more power to you, I have one kid in a W and one in Private and I can tell you many W parents aren't super happy with MoCo either

Wait, are you saying that there are some restaurants you won't go to because poor people eat there too? Really? Please don't kid yourself that most people are messed up like that, that's ALL you...

They made some interesting points kind of... In MCPS many of the wealthiest areas have schools that are in the greatest disrepair and the staff is pretty much the same everywhere since they hire from the same pool.

Citation needed.

Just talk to parents at Whitman or Wootton sometime.

Whitman LITERALLY just got a beautiful addition/upgrade. Meanwhile, Eastern MS keeps getting bumped down the list for upgrades, and the SSIMS physical plant is such a mess that it creates a genuine safety risk for students.

I've also often thought that the higher SES schools are the last to get renovations or just upkeep.

There are newly renovated schools and long-neglected schools in areas all around the county.

BCC was neglected for decades until it was renovated in the early 00s. I’m glad the neighborhood pushed for a historically sensitive renovation instead of demolition, the initial MCPS plan. Richard Montgomery was similarly neglected for decades in its crumbling facility until it was completely rebuilt. Montgomery County is still catching up to decades of deferred maintenance and facility upgrades.

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Anonymous wrote:Reminder that school boundaries wouldn’t be such a blood sport if MCPS delivered the same product at each location and addressed safety issues across the district. We all know these schools aren’t equal but we pretend they are because many people on this board directly benefit from the inequality.

The only people who pretend the schools are equal are people in lesser schools. The high SES schools know better than anybody the differences. The muddled middle has a lot of parity, save a special program or two most of the DCC are about the same.

Actually, no the only people who pretend they're significantly different are misguided. The same opportunities exist at most every school. The same kid can get the exact same education at almost any MCPS school. Yes, there are minor differences in standardized test averages which stem largely from differences in demographics, but that's not the same thing as good. Why a student does well isn't so much the school but largely parental involvement which unfortunately isn't something the county can change.

Disagree. If you are in a class with engaged students, answering questions, raising hands, participating with one another, that is not the same as being in a classroom where you are the only one sitting in the first row or two, without teacher redirection. The only student raising their hand. Repeatedly, until the teacher stops calling on you in hope that someone else will participate. Where students are not one their phones, or making noise, or banging on the walls or desks (yes, true story from my friend the substitute teacher). Let's not pretend the same opportunities to learn, or be in a safe environment in the halls or bathrooms or parking lot, present themselves at every school. A good student will have a much harder time with success IMO.

Look I get you to want to convince others of this folly because you paid extra for this "good" school, but AP English or Calc BC is the same everywhere. Sure, the school in the more affluent area may have 6 sections of AP English whereas others may have 4 but the same kid can do exactly the same at either school. And in MCPS don't try to pretend there's any real difference, kids are running around schools like Whitman and Churchill with knives this year and those schools also are infamous for the drug use.

No, this is not true. See scores at the various MCPS high schools or read commentary on AP Teacher FB groups. - AP teacher

You're definitely not an AP teacher

For 13 years - sorry.

Sounds like your school needs a visit from the diversity bus!

Because I told you that AP classes are not all the same? Keep your head buried in the sand.