Woodward Boundary Study discussion at next BoE meeting

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is the one chance MCPS is going to have in the next 2 decades to do some dramatic shifts in Bethesda and the DCC. Not everyday they open a whole new school. They’d be foolish to waste it with doing it around the edges. They need to rectify the diversity issues now

And I say this as someone who is in a “W” and whose property value will likely be affected too


They can make some improvements with WJ, Wheaton, Einstein, and maybe BCC. But what is a viable way to rectify the diversity issues at Whitman and Kennedy?


Shift from all of them, almost in a circle. Shift some of WJ to Whitman, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is the one chance MCPS is going to have in the next 2 decades to do some dramatic shifts in Bethesda and the DCC. Not everyday they open a whole new school. They’d be foolish to waste it with doing it around the edges. They need to rectify the diversity issues now

And I say this as someone who is in a “W” and whose property value will likely be affected too


They can make some improvements with WJ, Wheaton, Einstein, and maybe BCC. But what is a viable way to rectify the diversity issues at Whitman and Kennedy?


Shift from all of them, almost in a circle. Shift some of WJ to Whitman, etc.


Where Whitman kids will go if they have to take some from WJ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is the one chance MCPS is going to have in the next 2 decades to do some dramatic shifts in Bethesda and the DCC. Not everyday they open a whole new school. They’d be foolish to waste it with doing it around the edges. They need to rectify the diversity issues now

And I say this as someone who is in a “W” and whose property value will likely be affected too


They can make some improvements with WJ, Wheaton, Einstein, and maybe BCC. But what is a viable way to rectify the diversity issues at Whitman and Kennedy?


Shift from all of them, almost in a circle. Shift some of WJ to Whitman, etc.


Where Whitman kids will go if they have to take some from WJ?

Already said earlier. The shift goes from WJ to Whitman to BCC to next in chain in DCC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is the one chance MCPS is going to have in the next 2 decades to do some dramatic shifts in Bethesda and the DCC. Not everyday they open a whole new school. They’d be foolish to waste it with doing it around the edges. They need to rectify the diversity issues now

And I say this as someone who is in a “W” and whose property value will likely be affected too


They can make some improvements with WJ, Wheaton, Einstein, and maybe BCC. But what is a viable way to rectify the diversity issues at Whitman and Kennedy?


Shift from all of them, almost in a circle. Shift some of WJ to Whitman, etc.


Where Whitman kids will go if they have to take some from WJ?

Already said earlier. The shift goes from WJ to Whitman to BCC to next in chain in DCC.


Seems more likely everything will shift in the opposite direction.
Anonymous
All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
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Anonymous
Btw poor families are concentrated in the same areas due to racist land use policies
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
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Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
.


Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.


Data on "disruptive kids" is not used in boundary studies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
.


Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.


Data on "disruptive kids" is not used in boundary studies.


Proxy of distribution curve will work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
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Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.


Data on "disruptive kids" is not used in boundary studies.


Proxy of distribution curve will work.


They look at the percentage of students in each racial/ethnic composition category, FARMS, and ESOL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
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Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.


I am in the DCC, and the most disruptive kids I have experienced are white kids with unstable families. There are not many of them, but, they cause big problems if you get stuck in a class with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


Riiiight, all those UMC kids who are MORE likely to abuse alcohol and drugs than MC/LMC kids are definitely easing the burden. What a bunch of crap, PP. Your post is one of the least compassionate I’ve read on DCUM, and that’s saying something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the schools will become more diverse. This is what MCPS is pushing for. There are a bunch of low performing kids in the county. They want YOUR kids to teach them values, respect and how to read and talk. If you haven’t figured that out then you are clueless. It is not about race it is about low performing kids. The parents aren’t doing sh— at home so teachers have to become magicians and make up for years of kids sitting in. front of tv’s and being ignored. They can’t do it alone so they look to UMC kids to help and ease the burden.


No. What is happening is that among low income populations there is a larger share of disruptive and high needs children. Why? Because their parents lack adequate resources to help their children and/or themselves. For low income families of color this lack of resources is directly tied to the history of chattel slavery, redlining and other forms of racial discrimination in housing, education, labor markets, criminal justice and pretty much any other sector you can think of. Yes, many families of color are not low income, just like many White families are poor, but the above factors disadvantage families of color and advantage White families, which is why we see much larger shares of families of color on poverty than White families.

Most of the kids from low income families are well behaved and hardworking. But since low income families are are concentrated in the same geographic areas + because of the intentional segregation of the school system (Case and point - Kensington Parkwood ES), they.have to go to school with a mich larger share of disruptive kids than White kids do, which negatively affects their access to education, by no fault of their own.
.


Yes, distribute disruptive kids equally in BCC, WJ, Whitman to balance it.


Data on "disruptive kids" is not used in boundary studies.


They may not use "disruptive kids" as a factor, but they use FARMS rates; and there is a correlation between high FARMS schools and incidents of disruption, misbehavior, fights, and high absenteeism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fascinating how everyone seems to know exactly what MCPS/BOE will do.

NONE of you know, you are all guessing. And, in the long-run, MCPS will do whatever they want, parents be damned. We will all just have to wait and see


+1. Think of MCPS/BOE as the Tow Truck guy.

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