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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

I think there was likely already a lot of tension and conflict between them and Kate could tell the spirit in which the comment was intended. We wll know how upset women get when men use hormones to explain how a woman is acting.

But how did Kate make Meghan cry in this scenario? What did Kate have to apologize for?...I suppose if she was being generous, she apologized for letting her emotions get in the way of the brides big week?!

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I am so sick of the crying story line. Mix in weddings, toddlers, babies, pregnancies and new family members/cultures, and there is bound to be some tears shed.

There are bigger fist to fry in this crazy saga.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

I think there was likely already a lot of tension and conflict between them and Kate could tell the spirit in which the comment was intended. We wll know how upset women get when men use hormones to explain how a woman is acting.

agreed. but pregnancy hormones ARE a thing, and most people realize that. that said, you don't say it to someone you're not that close to.

Exactly. Imagine if someone said that to you in a work setting!

well, they are sister-in-laws, not co-workers, so presumably a bit more casual. It's the type of DCUM comment someone will get super pissed about a family member making, and people will tell them to chill out because there are dying people in Ukraine.

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If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did they get so angry and cut off contact with Thomas Markle for selling private stories and doing interviews when that is their bread and butter?

That’s actually a really good point that I never thought of! They are such hypocrites. But it’s all about revenge and money so…

Thomas Markle wasn't even selling private stories initially. He just sold.pix of literally himself (pretending to get fitted in a suit for their wedding)

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

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So far, I haven’t seen any self reflection in this book and it’s all about blaming other people. Of course it is not out yet, so maybe that’s in there too.

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

WOW. This grown ass man is completely unable to take any responsibility for his actions. Is he really trying to blame this particular event on anyone other than himself? It completely diminishes his credibility on other topics.

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

Yeah, none of them look good there but Kate wasn’t even married to him yet. I’m also not sure how much I buy the story because he seems to be paranoid and exaggerating and vengeful.

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Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

WOW. This grown ass man is completely unable to take any responsibility for his actions. Is he really trying to blame this particular event on anyone other than himself? It completely diminishes his credibility on other topics.

I think he solely took responsibility for that action for more than a decade. But if he says that Will and Kate also egged him on, he's got a right to share his story.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

I think there was likely already a lot of tension and conflict between them and Kate could tell the spirit in which the comment was intended. We wll know how upset women get when men use hormones to explain how a woman is acting.

agreed. but pregnancy hormones ARE a thing, and most people realize that. that said, you don't say it to someone you're not that close to.

Exactly. Imagine if someone said that to you in a work setting!

well, they are sister-in-laws, not co-workers, so presumably a bit more casual. It's the type of DCUM comment someone will get super pissed about a family member making, and people will tell them to chill out because there are dying people in Ukraine.

But the victim of the insult is not the one writing the tell all book. She held her head high.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If these are the worst stories they can come up with....

she wagged a finger at me after I made a snarky comment about hormones...

he pushed me back after we got in a face to face shouting match about my wife bullying people....

This is a lot of ruined relationships over pretty petty family conflicts.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

… After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

The story about Kate and Will encouraging Harry to dress in the Nazi costume is the worst one in my opinion. It's one thing for 20 year old Harry to have bad judgment--he'll never have an important role in Britain. But the future king and queen?
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-says-kate-middleton-prince-william-told-him-wear-nazi-costume-spare-reports/

WOW. This grown ass man is completely unable to take any responsibility for his actions. Is he really trying to blame this particular event on anyone other than himself? It completely diminishes his credibility on other topics.

I think he solely took responsibility for that action for more than a decade. But if he says that Will and Kate also egged him on, he's got a right to share his story.

I actually think all of the criticism for this is unfair - the rules changed very recently and this event preceded the time when dressing like a bad guy was no longer acceptable. But when he starts defensively pointing a finger at his brother and SIL, who he used to have a good relationship with, it's just pathetic. None of them knew better at the time. Now they all do. He can say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean he should.

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Anonymous wrote:Violence is inexcusable. If indeed William laid hands in his brother he has a lot to apologize for.

Inexcusable? I don't know, some brothers still wrestle, even as grown-ups. Should they? Probably not. People do lots of things they probably shouldn't do.

Presumably a friendly tussle is different from shoving your brother forcefully because you disapprove of his choice of wife. 🙄

The issue was that Meghan was bullying the palace staff.

I really wish she'd addressed this in their documentary on Netflix.

She didn't dare say anything about it, lest Buckingham Palace release "the goods" on her. Wonder if it will leak now. William will be p*ssed and likely find it difficult to restrain himself.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.