Removing and Renaming Confederate Statues, Schools, Streets, etc: Why?

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

Yes, VA has a racist, Nazi problem.

1. If you think Youngkin is lowering taxes you are an idiot. When have Republicans ever done that? History tells us you are an idiot.

2. Schools VA schools are going to die under your boy Youngkin it will be like Alabama. What do you not understand about the Betsey DeVos model? Privatizing schools for the religious rights money scams?

3. You are a NAZI go back to your hole. Your vocaublary is Discusting!

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

Yes, VA has a racist, Nazi problem.

1. If you think Youngkin is lowering taxes you are an idiot. When have Republicans ever done that? History tells us you are an idiot.

2. Schools VA schools are going to die under your boy Youngkin it will be like Alabama. What do you not understand about the Betsey DeVos model? Privatizing schools for the religious rights money scams?

3. You are a NAZI go back to your hole. Your vocaublary is Discusting!

I apologize for my vocabulary, I was just amplifying my tone in the statment and meant no reference to those genicides.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Who cares. The statues are being taken down. End of an era, end of story to most people. Focus on other things.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Why then is it so damn important to defend monuments glorifying a brief but brutal and violent 4 years of horrible history culminating as a result of clinging to barbaric slavery, which resulted in the unnecessary deaths of 600,000 Americans?

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

Yes, VA has a racist, Nazi problem.

1. If you think Youngkin is lowering taxes you are an idiot. When have Republicans ever done that? History tells us you are an idiot.

2. Schools VA schools are going to die under your boy Youngkin it will be like Alabama. What do you not understand about the Betsey DeVos model? Privatizing schools for the religious rights money scams?

3. You are a NAZI go back to your hole. Your vocaublary is Discusting!

Re: #2. Actually it will be like Virginia. Post-1954, some areas of Virginia supported private “segregation academies” for the white students. One Virginia county actually closed its public school system, leaving Black student and their tax paying families without public school education for 5 years.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/27/integration-public-schools-massive-resistance-virginia-1950s

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Then please explain all of the non-racist reasons for keeping these monuments to white supremacy.

Why are they defending these traitors who killed 600k Americans in an effort to keep 4M Americans enslaved?

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Who cares. The statues are being taken down. End of an era, end of story to most people. Focus on other things.

Not if this guy has anything to say about it.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a reason I chose VA as opposed to DC or MD when moving to this area from Arkansas. I felt as if I would feel least home sick and would be able to retain a bit of my culture from my hometown to my second home here. We need to look ahead, not backwards.

Your culture is celebrating slave holding traitors to our nation?

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Anonymous wrote:It is shameful we ever had statues to those treasonous traitors. The reckoning is long overdue.

They weren't treasonous traitors. Stick to facts.

I don't mind taking down the statues but there's a lot of recent revisionist history from both sides.

Robert Lee was nothing more than an illegal racist warlord who betrayed his country to wage a campaign of racial terror and destruction on half our population. His intentions were pure evil and countless patriots died to defeat this bloody menace. Also, the fact that his racist fan base called him "general" doesn't actually make him one. He led an illegal insurrection. That's like the Oath Keepers giving themselves fake military titles or the KFC guy calling himself "colonel." And you want to put up a statue for THAT GUY?!

Robert E Lee was embarrassed by his own legacy and did not want to be celebrated.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Who cares. The statues are being taken down. End of an era, end of story to most people. Focus on other things.

Not if this guy has anything to say about it.

Yup. Those Republicans are "very fine".

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

I think anyone can have an opinion and they don't need to be from VA to express it.

However having to see these statues on a daily basis could definitely to having more of a personal opinion on the matter rather than speaking from a moral standpoint. I have never once seen a segregationist or confederate’s name be used in md or dc.

DP: Of course you have. The now re-named Woodrow Wilson HS ( that was known as “the white HS” when I was a child) was named after an avowed segregationist, who worked very hard to intensify segregation throughout the Federal government and throughout DC — the Federal City.

Newlands fountain, in Chevy Chase Circle was named to honor a real estate developer — who was responsible for developing neighborhoods marketed with restrictive racial covenants. Those are just two. There are many, many more, from Founding Fathers who enslaved people, to presidents like Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren who built their reputations on genocide. And some of us will always refer to the airport as “National”.

Just to add that many people from DC, MD, and beyond work and shop in Virginia on a daily basis. If “having to see these statues on a daily basis” is somehow what counts in order to express an opinion, then it is in no way limited to the people who live in Virginia.



https://dcist.com/story/22/01/18/white-supremacist-name-removed-chevy-chase-fountain/

These are names from the past and it’s appropriate to rename buildings that bear the names of racists.

More recently, however, DC used taxpayer funds to erect a statue downtown of ex-mayor Marion Barry who expressed notoriously racist views, particularly about Asians. His name also prominently adorns (stains may be a more apt word) a large DC government building at 14th and U Streets. Shouldn’t Barry’s name be removed and the statue exiled to a museum or something?

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Anonymous wrote:The South rebelled and attempted to break away from the United States. That's called treason. The leaders of the rebellion declared war on the United States over the issue of slavery. (You can claim it is a state's right's issue, but it was the state's right to keep slavery legal). Many, if not most, of the statues, buildings and street names erected to honor the traitors were put in place long after the Civil War. Many were erected during the Civil Rights era as a provocation aimed at people who wanted to supported voting rights, equal access to quality education and end to racial discrimination. So yes, the statues should come down. (Also, you may say its heritage, not hate. But it's a heritage of hate.)

Well said. The statues and street names were tools to intimidate black people and put them in their place. These statues and street names started popping up right around the time the Klan started to become more prominent. Now you wouldn't name a street Hitler Highway, would you? I see no need for a street to be named Jefferson Davis Highway.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire thread is an example of why these monuments need to be removed, schools need names changed, and a lot of history needs to be taught.

Can you imagine that here we are, in 2022, explaining why slavery was bad? This entire thread is frightening.

Well this thread is also very biased. What percent of these posters you think are from VA as opposed to Dc or Md? Probably only half. Also take into account the political biases, it’s not representative of the state at all.

Really? What do you think would be “representative of the state” — which includes everything from southwestern Virginia to the DC suburbs? Are there views “representative of the state” that somehow include the FFVs, the Ballston Bros, the recent suburban transplants, the immigrants, the longtime rural communities AND the 20% of the population that’s made up of non-monolithic Black communities?

Well this forum is made of people who come from the DC area, so i would doubt those from southwest virginia or even people from as south as fredericksburg engaging in it. Obviously it would be more insightful to get the standpoints of people from all across the state, as these monuments are concentrated from anywhere from Arlington to Richmond to Southwestern Virginia.

I’m not questioning the value of having insights that are “representative of the state”. I’m asking what that would look like since the PP has decided that “this thread is…very biased”.

Various county elected officials and board members have voted to keep these monuments and statues in place throughout Virginia. County-wide Referendums across the state have also indicated that the majority of the voters do not want to remove these statues.

We sure have some "very fine" racists here in VA.

Wanting to keep confederate monuments does not equal being a racist. Are you that ignorant?

Please list all of the non-racist reasons for keeping monuments to white supremacy. Try not to sound like a racist when you list them out.

NP. I don’t really have a strong opinion on this particular issue, I just don’t want to be like the liberals in Maryland and DC. I think this whole DMV thing is a bunch of bs, these New York migrants have an identity crisis and want to be so superior and different from the rest of Virginia yet send their kids to UVA and VT. Go try finding this acronym in border crossing states like St. Louis or Kansas City. They’ll get a good chuckle. Back in the day all the liberal minded folks would move to Maryland and the conservatives would move to Virginia. Then they all started to get jealous of the low taxes and better way of living and started to infest our beautiful southern state. Take me back please.

Be wary, theyre spreading like termites through the core all the way to loudoun and pw county now.

That kind of dehumanizing language (“termite”, “infest”) often precedes genocide. Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda. This thread is scary.

I agree - although I suspect this is just one racist in VA sock-puppeting supportive replies.

PP here. Racism is a overreaching statement that does not characterize the vast majority of confederate statue defenders. Is Glenn Youngkin a racist? Are all republicans racist? Racism is not a one all be all, is not appropriate to label people as such.

Who cares. The statues are being taken down. End of an era, end of story to most people. Focus on other things.

Not if this guy has anything to say about it.

And what does that show? The person appointed and the governor are both inherently racist?