Removing and Renaming Confederate Statues, Schools, Streets, etc: Why?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Imagine how I feel being a native Loudouner and having to deal with all this suburbanization and yankee transplants becoming the majority. Wish I could go back to times where Northern Virginia still retained some it’s dixie charm.


You should continue to fly your confederate flag so your neighbors know who you really are.


The Southern Flag is not racist. Here in rural western Loudoun/northern Fauquier, I frequently see individuals flying said flags to pride their heritageal geographic representation. It is great to see that parts of exurban Northern Virginia continues to retain its beautiful southern way of life; cowboy hats, twangy accents, and some sweet tea after a long day.


That flag is not the "Southern" flag - it is the flag of the Confederacy and nothing else. Heritage? At 4 years, the Confederacy didn't even last as long as a can of tuna. https://foodsguy.com/canned-tuna-bad/


It’s the flag of white supremacy.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.



Because it was always about white supremacy. In Arizona it was making sure the Indians and Mexicans knew who was boss.



First of all, Arizona has exactly 5 civil war monuments. Additionally, Tucson has had Mexican-Americans on city council since day 1. I think people forget that it was Mexican territory so many, many Mexicans lived there until America decided to make it a state in 1912. Most of the monuments were gifts from Southern groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.



Because it was always about white supremacy. In Arizona it was making sure the Indians and Mexicans knew who was boss.



First of all, Arizona has exactly 5 civil war monuments. Additionally, Tucson has had Mexican-Americans on city council since day 1. I think people forget that it was Mexican territory so many, many Mexicans lived there until America decided to make it a state in 1912. Most of the monuments were gifts from Southern groups.


And the reason Arizona was granted statehood in 1912 was that the 1910 census showed that for the first time it had a majority-white population.

And ask yourself, why would Southern groups be making gifts of Civil War memorials to Arizona in the mid-20th century?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.


This is correct. It is bizarre actually that you can travel in rural areas in Western states and see Confederate battle flag bumper stickers. There are also several right-wing groups in the west, such as the group that took over the wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that frequently display the Confederate battle flag at their rallies.


What is most bizarre is that you can go to places like Ohio and upstate New York and see Confederate flags. The winners rooting for the losers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine how I feel being a native Loudouner and having to deal with all this suburbanization and yankee transplants becoming the majority. Wish I could go back to times where Northern Virginia still retained some it’s dixie charm.


You should continue to fly your confederate flag so your neighbors know who you really are.


The Southern Flag is not racist. Here in rural western Loudoun/northern Fauquier, I frequently see individuals flying said flags to pride their heritageal geographic representation. It is great to see that parts of exurban Northern Virginia continues to retain its beautiful southern way of life; cowboy hats, twangy accents, and some sweet tea after a long day.


Loudoun County's "beautiful southern way of life" included segregated schools until 1968.

Also, cowboy hats?!?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.


This is correct. It is bizarre actually that you can travel in rural areas in Western states and see Confederate battle flag bumper stickers. There are also several right-wing groups in the west, such as the group that took over the wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that frequently display the Confederate battle flag at their rallies.


What is most bizarre is that you can go to places like Ohio and upstate New York and see Confederate flags. The winners rooting for the losers.

The absolute most mind-boggling are West Virginians flying confederate flags. Do these people have any pride in place at all?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine how I feel being a native Loudouner and having to deal with all this suburbanization and yankee transplants becoming the majority. Wish I could go back to times where Northern Virginia still retained some it’s dixie charm.


You should continue to fly your confederate flag so your neighbors know who you really are.


The Southern Flag is not racist. Here in rural western Loudoun/northern Fauquier, I frequently see individuals flying said flags to pride their heritageal geographic representation. It is great to see that parts of exurban Northern Virginia continues to retain its beautiful southern way of life; cowboy hats, twangy accents, and some sweet tea after a long day.


Ummmm: “Cowboy hats” ??!!! Those must be either transplants or recent affectations. Northern Virginia had tobacco farms, some corn, and small family farms. Some horses, sure, but cowboy hats aren’t a traditional sign of “heritageal geographic representation” in Northern Virginia. You sound confused. Did you somehow mistake trucker caps for cowboy hats?

Psssst: Stopping at Cracker Barrel will NOT give you an accurate sense of of the culture, or the stereotypes you seem to be clutching to your bosom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.


This is correct. It is bizarre actually that you can travel in rural areas in Western states and see Confederate battle flag bumper stickers. There are also several right-wing groups in the west, such as the group that took over the wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that frequently display the Confederate battle flag at their rallies.


What is most bizarre is that you can go to places like Ohio and upstate New York and see Confederate flags. The winners rooting for the losers.

The absolute most mind-boggling are West Virginians flying confederate flags. Do these people have any pride in place at all?


Well, that tells you a LOT about the state of education in West Virginia. They do have pride: it’s just about Race more than Place.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.


This is correct. It is bizarre actually that you can travel in rural areas in Western states and see Confederate battle flag bumper stickers. There are also several right-wing groups in the west, such as the group that took over the wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that frequently display the Confederate battle flag at their rallies.


What is most bizarre is that you can go to places like Ohio and upstate New York and see Confederate flags. The winners rooting for the losers.


And why they have Confederate monuments in places that were never part of the Confederacy - https://www.splcenter.org/whose-heritage-map

Hint: It's not about heritage or the confederacy. it's about racism and segregation. Always has been.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m from out West. The Civil War isn’t a thing out there. I was shocked and disgusted that streets (Lee Highway) were named after the traitorous Confederate losers. Get with modern times hillbillies!


You should visit Arizona. They have some great Confederate monuments.


This is correct. It is bizarre actually that you can travel in rural areas in Western states and see Confederate battle flag bumper stickers. There are also several right-wing groups in the west, such as the group that took over the wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon that frequently display the Confederate battle flag at their rallies.


What is most bizarre is that you can go to places like Ohio and upstate New York and see Confederate flags. The winners rooting for the losers.

The absolute most mind-boggling are West Virginians flying confederate flags. Do these people have any pride in place at all?


For many people there's a dumb-as-a-stump "ah'm a rebbul" aspect to flying the Confederate flag. And it's largely people who don't read and don't know history well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is fantastic

Henrietta Lacks statue to replace Robert E Lee monument in Roanoke
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/henrietta-lacks-statue-replaces-robert-e-lee-monument-virginia?fbclid=IwAR3uY8PXAYsRlkDZqB9oTY-1Ebs-vDXwvOZ0OxwOTWizTLZkNlOLVuOYCNk&mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Excellent. Someone who saved millions vs killed half million.
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