Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why any sane person would put down $2+ million on a house in MoCo rather than in Virginia (or even the District).

This.

You can deny it all you want, but it’s clear that MCPS is a failing school system. It’s failing our students and many staff will argue that Central Office is even failing to support our teachers. Morale is low and there seems to be no improvement to come.

How do you know it’s any better in Virginia or DC??? Give me a break. MCPS is fine.

So "fine" is acceptable to you? It isn't fine for many many students. And it hasn't for a long time.

Fine = Free. And that is why MCPS remains overcrowded and mediocre. Nobody demands much from a freebie. Happy to have moved to private. Less political posturing and more focus on education and kids’ needs as we come out of Covid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.

We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.

We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.

Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.

[Anonymous]

Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A couple of things here to think about.

The retiree population is exploding in the county. It is predicted to make up over 20% of the county population in 5 to 10 years. They tend to retire in place and stay in their single family homes near many of us live.

Educated Families and other groups are having fewer kids.

The wealthy are getting more wealthy due to increases in income. Stock market and inheritance. We are seeing a huge wealth transfer.

Huh? The retired are leaving MD in droves. This is a known problem as higher income retirees are being replaced by lower income newcomers.

Interesting. Because all I see is smaller homes previously owned by older folks ripped down and McMansions built. These are not lower income folks swing g the price tag.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.

We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.

We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.

Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.

dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.

We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.

We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.

Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.

dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.

Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

I wish I could scream this from the rooftop.

Our ES experience was incredible.....then everything went turned into dumpster fire almost immediately in MS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

I hated being MS age myself and am dreading that life stage for my own DCs because of it. I was a student at a private MS and was bullied so mercilessly that I bear permanent emotional liabilities. The smaller size just meant there was no way to get away from the kids who teased me, and the fact that the community was intentional meant it was also homogeneous and insular, which made things worse. What do privates do differently from MCPS (or any public school) to turn the tide of MS social hell? I ask this in all seriousness, because you can probably imagine I'd do an awful lot to try to ensure my DCs don't experience what I did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.

We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.

We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.

Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.

dp.. absolutely zero intent of that happening. If anything, they push more URM to take AP classes/exams.

Really? Not from what I have seen. Give it a year or two. Then we can talk equity.

and what have you seen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

I hated being MS age myself and am dreading that life stage for my own DCs because of it. I was a student at a private MS and was bullied so mercilessly that I bear permanent emotional liabilities. The smaller size just meant there was no way to get away from the kids who teased me, and the fact that the community was intentional meant it was also homogeneous and insular, which made things worse. What do privates do differently from MCPS (or any public school) to turn the tide of MS social hell? I ask this in all seriousness, because you can probably imagine I'd do an awful lot to try to ensure my DCs don't experience what I did.

I think MS anywhere is pretty terrible. I know kids who went to private school who are good friends and one had an ok experience and one had a terrible experience at the same school so I don’t think private schools have any great secret.

I just told my kid to get through middle school and it would get better and it did. Can’t see making any life choices based on choice of MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Wait until you get to MS!

We lost several families to private in MS (families who swore up and down how they valued public schools and would never opt for private). And then, more who opted for private in HS, after seeing how bad the MCPS MS experience was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

I hated being MS age myself and am dreading that life stage for my own DCs because of it. I was a student at a private MS and was bullied so mercilessly that I bear permanent emotional liabilities. The smaller size just meant there was no way to get away from the kids who teased me, and the fact that the community was intentional meant it was also homogeneous and insular, which made things worse. What do privates do differently from MCPS (or any public school) to turn the tide of MS social hell? I ask this in all seriousness, because you can probably imagine I'd do an awful lot to try to ensure my DCs don't experience what I did.

I think MS anywhere is pretty terrible. I know kids who went to private school who are good friends and one had an ok experience and one had a terrible experience at the same school so I don’t think private schools have any great secret.

I just told my kid to get through middle school and it would get better and it did. Can’t see making any life choices based on choice of MS.

I agree.

However, the academics in MS are atrocious.

English is abysmal, with the ‘mixed-ability’ Advanced English for all nonsense. And Math is weak, regardless of the class.

Social is hit or miss in both public and private. It’s the academic issues that lead many families to private school in MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.

We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.

We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.

Until they do away with APs. It is not equitable.

Life is not equitable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our MCPS ES already has small class sizes; DCs' needs are being met in spades; principal and teachers are terrific; family community is great; extracurricular options and aftercare are easy to access; facility is pleasant, comfortable, and walking distance from our home. Why would we go private?

Because what lies ahead in MS is a trash heap? ES is a different animal.

I hated being MS age myself and am dreading that life stage for my own DCs because of it. I was a student at a private MS and was bullied so mercilessly that I bear permanent emotional liabilities. The smaller size just meant there was no way to get away from the kids who teased me, and the fact that the community was intentional meant it was also homogeneous and insular, which made things worse. What do privates do differently from MCPS (or any public school) to turn the tide of MS social hell? I ask this in all seriousness, because you can probably imagine I'd do an awful lot to try to ensure my DCs don't experience what I did.

I think MS anywhere is pretty terrible. I know kids who went to private school who are good friends and one had an ok experience and one had a terrible experience at the same school so I don’t think private schools have any great secret.

I just told my kid to get through middle school and it would get better and it did. Can’t see making any life choices based on choice of MS.

I agree.

However, the academics in MS are atrocious.

English is abysmal, with the ‘mixed-ability’ Advanced English for all nonsense. And Math is weak, regardless of the class.

Social is hit or miss in both public and private. It’s the academic issues that lead many families to private school in MS.

English has been our biggest disappointment at my son’s elite private school. Surprisingly, it was better at MCPS and we’ve had to hire a tutor to fill in the gap. Which is ridiculous when we already pay for private. The grass is not always greener.