Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s that families like mine who are in the “middle” that are the concern.

We are zoned for a middle of the road ES - very diverse SES.

We started at public had a sh-tty experience with MCPS - well behaved kids at the top suffered because what limited resources there were went to the bottom. And granted I’m fine with resources going to the bottom, but it’s the disregard for the needs of others that is bothersome. Literally physical safety became a daily concern of my first grader. It’s a race to the bottom instead of lifting up.

Went to private even though it is a financial stretch. Kids are much happier, they have excelled academically and aren’t worried about being beat up at recess.

I don’t know what changed - maybe covid or teacher shortages or demographic shifts - but something is very wrong with our once top school district.


Ditto. We pulled ours out eight years ago, and should have done it earlier.

And yet here you are on a MCPS forum.
They live rent-free in your head.
Anonymous
Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s that families like mine who are in the “middle” that are the concern.

We are zoned for a middle of the road ES - very diverse SES.

We started at public had a sh-tty experience with MCPS - well behaved kids at the top suffered because what limited resources there were went to the bottom. And granted I’m fine with resources going to the bottom, but it’s the disregard for the needs of others that is bothersome. Literally physical safety became a daily concern of my first grader. It’s a race to the bottom instead of lifting up.

Went to private even though it is a financial stretch. Kids are much happier, they have excelled academically and aren’t worried about being beat up at recess.

I don’t know what changed - maybe covid or teacher shortages or demographic shifts - but something is very wrong with our once top school district.


Ditto. We pulled ours out eight years ago, and should have done it earlier.

And yet here you are on a MCPS forum.
They live rent-free in your head.


Hahahah - most of this seems like fiction written by a private school recruiter.
Anonymous
We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.


We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county


Is that true Baltimore has all horrible publics? Now it explains why people that I know living in Baltimore send their kids to private. They never tell me why, and they just tell me that private fit their child needs..........and not further say that their public sucks. Why Baltimore public sucks? Many violence and low academic performance or not diversified or so many poor? Why families live in Baltimore, just for work convenience and city life?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county


Is that true Baltimore has all horrible publics? Now it explains why people that I know living in Baltimore send their kids to private. They never tell me why, and they just tell me that private fit their child needs..........and not further say that their public sucks. Why Baltimore public sucks? Many violence and low academic performance or not diversified or so many poor? Why families live in Baltimore, just for work convenience and city life?


Baltimore also has high poverty. I think it may be related.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.


We left mcps precovid and moved to a private private boys school in dc that apart from small class sizes and all can participate in sports, the academics have not been better and in classes worse. Moving back to public, can’t justify the annual cost at over $30 grand.


We just left our private and returned to MCPS and couldn't be happier. The AP options in HS seem much better and it's also free.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know why any sane person would put down $2+ million on a house in MoCo rather than in Virginia (or even the District).


This.

You can deny it all you want, but it’s clear that MCPS is a failing school system. It’s failing our students and many staff will argue that Central Office is even failing to support our teachers. Morale is low and there seems to be no improvement to come.


How do you know it’s any better in Virginia or DC??? Give me a break. MCPS is fine.


So "fine" is acceptable to you? It isn't fine for many many students. And it hasn't for a long time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county


Is that true Baltimore has all horrible publics? Now it explains why people that I know living in Baltimore send their kids to private. They never tell me why, and they just tell me that private fit their child needs..........and not further say that their public sucks. Why Baltimore public sucks? Many violence and low academic performance or not diversified or so many poor? Why families live in Baltimore, just for work convenience and city life?


I would agree that MCPS could go the way of Baltimore public schools. There are enough high-SES in MC to fund several private schools. Given the crappy CO and board of education we're stuck with, it's just a matter of time.

There is one High School in Baltimore that's good (Eastern Technical High School, and River Hill High and Western School of Technology and Environmental Science are okay. However, all three have college readiness less than 70% so I wouldn't call them solid academic institutions.

Our family used to go to Inner Harbor on weekends. We don't anymore. Baltimore overall has a high rate of violent crime and even in Inner Harbor (where the police at least try to keep crime under wraps) has been a nightmare for local businesses. I would google "Baltimore Inner Harbor crime" if you really want to read what's happening up there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.


You forgot to mention 1)Its one school not a school district, 2) its a school that can decide who is part of the population and who is not, 3) the smaller class sizes exist because school determines what sizes it wants and limits the student intake to match, 4) the teachers are not necessarily better they just have less kids and 4) you apparently can afford to pay a tuition that increases by 2-5% every year.

STOP trying to compare apples and oranges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We left MCPS after the Spring shutdown due to Covid. Went to private where our kids attended in person all year. Learned what we were missing, ranging from smaller class sizes, to attention for all kids (including the high flyers and the quiet ones, not just the trouble makers and those who needed some catching up), teachers who got to know our kids (because they weren't one of 30 in a classroom, one of 150 they saw in a day), a place where our kids who weren't star athletes could still participate in sports and other activities because it's required, and there aren't 100 kids going out for 20 spots.

Long story short, we are not going back to MCPS. HHI is $350k. Our priority is our children's education, and MCPS no longer fits the bill.


You forgot to mention 1)Its one school not a school district, 2) its a school that can decide who is part of the population and who is not, 3) the smaller class sizes exist because school determines what sizes it wants and limits the student intake to match, 4) the teachers are not necessarily better they just have less kids and 4) you apparently can afford to pay a tuition that increases by 2-5% every year.

STOP trying to compare apples and oranges.


Why? The PP tasted both apples and oranges - that is the point of this post. Decide what you like - different values.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county


Actually, Baltimore public schools actually teach according to the science of reading. MCPS has been teaching reading for at least the last 15 years (as quoted by the Elem ELA Director)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?


There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Try asking private school admissions how much applications have increased. Done!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't Baltimore full of great privates and horrible publics?
This may be what ultimately happens to Montgomery county


Actually, Baltimore public schools actually teach according to the science of reading. MCPS has been teaching reading for at least the last 15 years (as quoted by the Elem ELA Director)

Is that why so few Baltimore Public School students are reading at grade level?
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