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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how the Arlington parent equated his /her girl getting yelled at by Mo to professional players getting yelled at by Richie Burke? What does THAT tell you abut how high maintenance that team is?

The most successful athletes of all time were yelled at as kids. You can pretty much name any of them. Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Tiger Woods to name a few. I've seen some pretty crazy AAU girls coaches in my day as well yet alone High School Girls basketball. Serena and Venus Williams have also talked about training as kids and how hard it was.

We are now growing up in a generation where discipline is not respected. Everything must be positive reinforcement. In my opinion, as nice as that sounds, many kids are not going to understand how to deal with failure and are going to be the most entitled human beings in the history of earth. Except for white people that is, we have to learn how to understand our white privilege and how fortunate we are to able to afford to play Club soccer.

In other words, white kids who don't want to be disciplined by coaches and accept they're white privilege will not be able to handle their failures nor are they going to want to compete against others. Please make room for minorities that are less fortunate than your kids so they can get the scholarships, not your weak white girl who doesn't understand what it's like to work hard.

And how many of those stars you mentioned turned out well adjusted? How many of MJ's HS teammates went on to stardom and HOF careers? Yelling doesn't make champions, champions endure in spite of it.

They also used to spank kids in school, but don't allow it anymore. Can you imagine your boss yelling at you like that for some mistake? My kid doesn't need to be yelled at. If the coach figured out how to communicate and coach better, then maybe he wouldn't need to yell. Also, if they just got a new coach it will take time. So for him to yell like he did at those girls in probably their first tournament of the season is unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

[Anonymous]

I will say Alexis’s access and willingness to talk with parents is the exception not the rule for travel soccer. Most travel coaches handle parent emails/demands in a very different way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:McLean rosters in low 20s makes sense. Lots of games played a year, injuries always happen unfortunately, competition for playing time raises the quality of everyone’s play, and those are good numbers for training. The oldest team at 30 is an anomaly. And remember their rosters are that size because players want to be there.

22 players on a U15 roster is too big. At that age there is maybe one or 2 injuries. With 11 allowed on the field at 18 rostered for games there is no need for more that 18 on a team at that age. Arlington has 16 girls at that age as well as U16. If they are running low on players they bring up a girl or 2 from their second team which makes everyone happy. All girls know they are on the team and will get to attend games every week. It's not necessary to have more than 18-20 girls on a team until you reach the U18 age group. Even then having 32 is insane.

^ Totally agree. With so many more elite teams in the area, maybe it's time to reevaluate how teams are put together. Rosters over 18 only helps your bottom line. Agreed increased competition does improve the quality of play to some extent, but let's not forget good quality coaching is most important to the overall development.

Quality of coaching does not matter if you are not starting. The goal should be to play soccer games and if you are good enough maybe play in college. You are not going to play in college if you are not a starter on your clubs first team. If this is the case move to another club where you can at least play in the games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

As the parent of girls ages 13-19, I can say based on experience that this is terrible on so many levels. It is not acceptable behavior for a coach at this age and should not be tolerated by parents or by the club.

This is not a private training session where where parents are picking the fit that is just right for their kid. To subject 15-18 kids to this overbearing style at this age is wrong. The kids are not Michael Jordan. Most are not emotionally or physically ready to meet the demands of this coach, and that is understandable given their age.

It is possible for a good coach to be competitive and not be abusive. Please be better.

Soccer should be fun for your 13 year old. Join a team that makes them happy. There are plenty of good ones out there even for the best players in our area. Find the culture that is the right fit for your family. Do it fast. Your future grown up kids will thank you for removing them from that toxic environment, and look back fondly to their days playing youth sports.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

As the parent of girls ages 13-19, I can say based on experience that this is terrible on so many levels. It is not acceptable behavior for a coach at this age and should not be tolerated by parents or by the club.

This is not a private training session where where parents are picking the fit that is just right for their kid. To subject 15-18 kids to this overbearing style at this age is wrong. The kids are not Michael Jordan. Most are not emotionally or physically ready to meet the demands of this coach, and that is understandable given their age.

It is possible for a good coach to be competitive and not be abusive. Please be better.

Soccer should be fun for your 13 year old. Join a team that makes them happy. There are plenty of good ones out there even for the best players in our area. Find the culture that is the right fit for your family. Do it fast. Your future grown up kids will thank you for removing them from that toxic environment, and look back fondly to their days playing youth sports.

You people and your damn white privilege's. No wonder minorities are so upset...your nice big house in the suburbs. Don't discipline my kid because she isn't working hard or makes a poor decision in a game that may or may not cost the team. It's disgusting.

Sorry to break the news but winning clubs attract players and therefore a coach understands that and tries his or her best to get the results. If they don't get results, they are released. These are paid coaches. If that's not the environment you want, than ECNL or GA is not for you. Well maybe at Metro United but don't expect to win but do expect a miserable result. And if you think a College Coach isn't going to yell, than you are really lost. What are you going to do, complain to the University AD that the coach is too hard? LOL. Keep it up, my DD is going to run over yours like Monster Truck.

Look, if you want rainbow's and unicorns, go play for a parent coached club or rec team. Afterwards they can play Minecraft or TicToc, heck, maybe they even will do it during practice if it makes them happy. This is where your daughter likely belongs.

[Anonymous]

The fact is that this particular team never seems to be happy, but their move is to come here and bash whoever it is that is coaching. It's your money: if you are that unhappy as a group, band together and ask for a meeting. If it isn't granted go higher up the ladder.
If the representatives of that team who post on here are, in fact, just one or two disgruntled parents looking to foment trouble by coming here- knock it off.
Be adults

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

As the parent of girls ages 13-19, I can say based on experience that this is terrible on so many levels. It is not acceptable behavior for a coach at this age and should not be tolerated by parents or by the club.

This is not a private training session where where parents are picking the fit that is just right for their kid. To subject 15-18 kids to this overbearing style at this age is wrong. The kids are not Michael Jordan. Most are not emotionally or physically ready to meet the demands of this coach, and that is understandable given their age.

It is possible for a good coach to be competitive and not be abusive. Please be better.

Soccer should be fun for your 13 year old. Join a team that makes them happy. There are plenty of good ones out there even for the best players in our area. Find the culture that is the right fit for your family. Do it fast. Your future grown up kids will thank you for removing them from that toxic environment, and look back fondly to their days playing youth sports.

You people and your damn white privilege's. No wonder minorities are so upset...your nice big house in the suburbs. Don't discipline my kid because she isn't working hard or makes a poor decision in a game that may or may not cost the team. It's disgusting.

Sorry to break the news but winning clubs attract players and therefore a coach understands that and tries his or her best to get the results. If they don't get results, they are released. These are paid coaches. If that's not the environment you want, than ECNL or GA is not for you. Well maybe at Metro United but don't expect to win but do expect a miserable result. And if you think a College Coach isn't going to yell, than you are really lost. What are you going to do, complain to the University AD that the coach is too hard? LOL. Keep it up, my DD is going to run over yours like Monster Truck.

Look, if you want rainbow's and unicorns, go play for a parent coached club or rec team. Afterwards they can play Minecraft or TicToc, heck, maybe they even will do it during practice if it makes them happy. This is where your daughter likely belongs.

Just double checked the ASIST brackets. Arlington still in 3rd on their side. So how's that working for you?

I think the point PP was making is that the kids are not in college. So what is acceptable behavior for a college coach is not the same as for a 13 yr old. Competing at a high level can and should be rewarding for younger and older kids. But winning and being a jerk on the sidelines is not an either/or scenario. You can do both. We should demand the same of our teachers. The best 7th grade teachers can prepare our kids academically AND foster a healthy classroom environment. Would you accept it if your kid got torn down in the classroom? Then why is it okay on a soccer field? If ECNL/GA is so great, then you should have your pick of coaches, right? Maybe get one that makes it about the kids and not about the club or about himself. Do a great job, then winning will be the result and maybe you will all be happier with how you got there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact is that this particular team never seems to be happy, but their move is to come here and bash whoever it is that is coaching. It's your money: if you are that unhappy as a group, band together and ask for a meeting. If it isn't granted go higher up the ladder.
If the representatives of that team who post on here are, in fact, just one or two disgruntled parents looking to foment trouble by coming here- knock it off.
Be adults

Arlington will have no trouble replacing any girls who choose to leave. Welcome, Mclean and BRYC and DC Stoddert and Alexandria and Metro United players who are willing to work hard!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

As the parent of girls ages 13-19, I can say based on experience that this is terrible on so many levels. It is not acceptable behavior for a coach at this age and should not be tolerated by parents or by the club.

This is not a private training session where where parents are picking the fit that is just right for their kid. To subject 15-18 kids to this overbearing style at this age is wrong. The kids are not Michael Jordan. Most are not emotionally or physically ready to meet the demands of this coach, and that is understandable given their age.

It is possible for a good coach to be competitive and not be abusive. Please be better.

Soccer should be fun for your 13 year old. Join a team that makes them happy. There are plenty of good ones out there even for the best players in our area. Find the culture that is the right fit for your family. Do it fast. Your future grown up kids will thank you for removing them from that toxic environment, and look back fondly to their days playing youth sports.

You people and your damn white privilege's. No wonder minorities are so upset...your nice big house in the suburbs. Don't discipline my kid because she isn't working hard or makes a poor decision in a game that may or may not cost the team. It's disgusting.

Sorry to break the news but winning clubs attract players and therefore a coach understands that and tries his or her best to get the results. If they don't get results, they are released. These are paid coaches. If that's not the environment you want, than ECNL or GA is not for you. Well maybe at Metro United but don't expect to win but do expect a miserable result. And if you think a College Coach isn't going to yell, than you are really lost. What are you going to do, complain to the University AD that the coach is too hard? LOL. Keep it up, my DD is going to run over yours like Monster Truck.

Look, if you want rainbow's and unicorns, go play for a parent coached club or rec team. Afterwards they can play Minecraft or TicToc, heck, maybe they even will do it during practice if it makes them happy. This is where your daughter likely belongs.

Just double checked the ASIST brackets. Arlington still in 3rd on their side. So how's that working for you?

I think the point PP was making is that the kids are not in college. So what is acceptable behavior for a college coach is not the same as for a 13 yr old. Competing at a high level can and should be rewarding for younger and older kids. But winning and being a jerk on the sidelines is not an either/or scenario. You can do both. We should demand the same of our teachers. The best 7th grade teachers can prepare our kids academically AND foster a healthy classroom environment. Would you accept it if your kid got torn down in the classroom? Then why is it okay on a soccer field? If ECNL/GA is so great, then you should have your pick of coaches, right? Maybe get one that makes it about the kids and not about the club or about himself. Do a great job, then winning will be the result and maybe you will all be happier with how you got there.

How did race get into this? You are aware that this particular team has minorities on it right? I actually agree with part of your premise, but to pretend that minorities just in general have a better work ethic is not logical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it is miserable for players who can not meet the expectations of the coach. Practices and games become harder and harder. The coach, the player and teammates know what is coming.

As the parent of girls ages 13-19, I can say based on experience that this is terrible on so many levels. It is not acceptable behavior for a coach at this age and should not be tolerated by parents or by the club.

This is not a private training session where where parents are picking the fit that is just right for their kid. To subject 15-18 kids to this overbearing style at this age is wrong. The kids are not Michael Jordan. Most are not emotionally or physically ready to meet the demands of this coach, and that is understandable given their age.

It is possible for a good coach to be competitive and not be abusive. Please be better.

Soccer should be fun for your 13 year old. Join a team that makes them happy. There are plenty of good ones out there even for the best players in our area. Find the culture that is the right fit for your family. Do it fast. Your future grown up kids will thank you for removing them from that toxic environment, and look back fondly to their days playing youth sports.

You people and your damn white privilege's. No wonder minorities are so upset...your nice big house in the suburbs. Don't discipline my kid because she isn't working hard or makes a poor decision in a game that may or may not cost the team. It's disgusting.

Sorry to break the news but winning clubs attract players and therefore a coach understands that and tries his or her best to get the results. If they don't get results, they are released. These are paid coaches. If that's not the environment you want, than ECNL or GA is not for you. Well maybe at Metro United but don't expect to win but do expect a miserable result. And if you think a College Coach isn't going to yell, than you are really lost. What are you going to do, complain to the University AD that the coach is too hard? LOL. Keep it up, my DD is going to run over yours like Monster Truck.

Look, if you want rainbow's and unicorns, go play for a parent coached club or rec team. Afterwards they can play Minecraft or TicToc, heck, maybe they even will do it during practice if it makes them happy. This is where your daughter likely belongs.

Just double checked the ASIST brackets. Arlington still in 3rd on their side. So how's that working for you?

I think the point PP was making is that the kids are not in college. So what is acceptable behavior for a college coach is not the same as for a 13 yr old. Competing at a high level can and should be rewarding for younger and older kids. But winning and being a jerk on the sidelines is not an either/or scenario. You can do both. We should demand the same of our teachers. The best 7th grade teachers can prepare our kids academically AND foster a healthy classroom environment. Would you accept it if your kid got torn down in the classroom? Then why is it okay on a soccer field? If ECNL/GA is so great, then you should have your pick of coaches, right? Maybe get one that makes it about the kids and not about the club or about himself. Do a great job, then winning will be the result and maybe you will all be happier with how you got there.

Careful, you may bring out the Excusers, like the ASIST posters from the boys weekend will come here and complain about how their Arl color was forced to play in too high of a bracket because an extra team was formed for the season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact is that this particular team never seems to be happy, but their move is to come here and bash whoever it is that is coaching. It's your money: if you are that unhappy as a group, band together and ask for a meeting. If it isn't granted go higher up the ladder.
If the representatives of that team who post on here are, in fact, just one or two disgruntled parents looking to foment trouble by coming here- knock it off.
Be adults

Arlington will have no trouble replacing any girls who choose to leave. Welcome, Mclean and BRYC and DC Stoddert and Alexandria and Metro United players who are willing to work hard!

The best advice is to call a meeting with the coach and higher ups. If you do not get an answer that is satisfactory start looking for a new club. Maybe get 6-8 players (really parents) to move as a group(all for one situation) ...makes it easy for the kids. The problem is Arlington is not a world beat. The other club may not want all the girls and parents(rightly so) will do what is best for their kid. The soccer drama is about to be kicked into high gear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact is that this particular team never seems to be happy, but their move is to come here and bash whoever it is that is coaching. It's your money: if you are that unhappy as a group, band together and ask for a meeting. If it isn't granted go higher up the ladder.
If the representatives of that team who post on here are, in fact, just one or two disgruntled parents looking to foment trouble by coming here- knock it off.
Be adults

Arlington will have no trouble replacing any girls who choose to leave. Welcome, Mclean and BRYC and DC Stoddert and Alexandria and Metro United players who are willing to work hard!

The best advice is to call a meeting with the coach and higher ups. If you do not get an answer that is satisfactory start looking for a new club. Maybe get 6-8 players (really parents) to move as a group(all for one situation) ...makes it easy for the kids. The problem is Arlington is not a world beat. The other club may not want all the girls and parents(rightly so) will do what is best for their kid. The soccer drama is about to be kicked into high gear.

Yep and Jeff Cup this weekend!

[Anonymous]

Race is not an issue on the Arlington GA team. All of those girls are working hard and seem to get along! The issue is the abusive coaching style and zero positivity!