Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest here. RP PTA email clearly said that RP is near Potomac and even 7% is too high for us. We can be politically correct and not say it anymore, but that's the talking point given by PTA in email first time. I think it's not a wrong point.

I will send letter specifying that RP is in different neighborhood and 7% is not too low for our neighborhood. Enough of this political correct talk. It's reality that we don't have 20% FARMs in our neighborhood. We don't have even 7%. 7% is actually higher than what neighborhood looks like. We are already helping enough FARMs kids.

Some more RP parents need to speak up and not be afraid due to political nonsense.

I live in HH and I think you are a troll trying to stir the pot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be honest here. RP PTA email clearly said that RP is near Potomac and even 7% is too high for us. We can be politically correct and not say it anymore, but that's the talking point given by PTA in email first time. I think it's not a wrong point.

I will send letter specifying that RP is in different neighborhood and 7% is not too low for our neighborhood. Enough of this political correct talk. It's reality that we don't have 20% FARMs in our neighborhood. We don't have even 7%. 7% is actually higher than what neighborhood looks like. We are already helping enough FARMs kids.

Some more RP parents need to speak up and not be afraid due to political nonsense.

Thank you for saying that. At least we know what is your true motivation.

I think you fell for the troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am curious if this has been brought up as I haven't been really following since it doesn't affect my zone in all options. It seems that proximity is the highest want.

What about doing Option A that is the least disruptive and having a program in RM5 that is for cluster students ONLY. Whether that be an extended CI program for cluster ES kids or a gifted center since ours is so far away. Allow a certain percentage of kids based on school percentages of capacity so that CG and TB get more seats. That will decrease the capacity at both of those schools with an optional program and make the new school even more appealing. Then once the crazy new developments start building, it will be easier to decrease/increase spots as needed.

There are schools that have their own programs within them, just for them. Why not a cluster option?

The determination for local CES (formerly HGC) comes from the Office of Accelerated and Enriched Instruction - so you would need to start there with your advocacy. I have heard that there is a push for more local CES locations county-wide, so this may happen in our cluster in the near future anyway (hopefully!).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

WG made lots of speeches citing neighborhood school and lots of parents cheered it.

Why can't RP parents make the argument about neighborhood having less than 7% FARMs? We also pay taxes and probably pay higher taxes than other parts of RM cluster. It's not fair to get high FARMS rate in RP cluster just to balance things out. We are already helping entire cluster in many ways. First email from RP PTA was spot on.

It is all about the numbers dummy.

(RP1+RP3+RP4) are only 217 students , white and 0% FARMs . Your aging population can never sustain a neighborhood school so you reserve to busing children from Gaithersburg .

Shut down RP and move the kids to RMES#5 !!!!

DP.. I live in HH. There are a few black, hispanic, and asian families in the areas. Please stop with your ignorant posts. Our bus stop is literally like the UN.

[Anonymous]

I agree that ~25min busing is not desirable, but how about those kids who lives 0.9mile from school have to walk ~20+ min daily without access to a car, in heat, wind, rain, snow, ice?
It is definitely not "wonderful walking distance", it is some times miserable..

[Anonymous]

If RP2/6 go to ES#5, have they stated that they will provde bus service? Or is this still up in the air? If they have not made this decision, then I'm not sure how people can make an informed decision without all the info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that ~25min busing is not desirable, but how about those kids who lives 0.9mile from school have to walk ~20+ min daily without access to a car, in heat, wind, rain, snow, ice?
It is definitely not "wonderful walking distance", it is some times miserable..

And what about kids in those same circumstances who live in Twinbrook? Do you advocate busing them to a different school, too? There are community support measures that can be put in place (both official MCPS ones and informal ones from neighbors) so that children do not need to walk alone and in bad weather. That is not a reason to bus children to a completely different school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

WG made lots of speeches citing neighborhood school and lots of parents cheered it.

Why can't RP parents make the argument about neighborhood having less than 7% FARMs? We also pay taxes and probably pay higher taxes than other parts of RM cluster. It's not fair to get high FARMS rate in RP cluster just to balance things out. We are already helping entire cluster in many ways. First email from RP PTA was spot on.

It is all about the numbers dummy.

(RP1+RP3+RP4) are only 217 students , white and 0% FARMs . Your aging population can never sustain a neighborhood school so you reserve to busing children from Gaithersburg .

Shut down RP and move the kids to RMES#5 !!!!

Actually, before they ever get bused to Gaithersburg, MCPS would first consider busing them to Cold Spring, a very under enrolled school. I know some parents in HH who don't want to ever get zoned for Cold Spring. Some do; but some don't.

Also, the "aging" HH area is being turned over. Every time a house goes up for sale, a young family moves in. I think that's probably true for most areas near good schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If RP2/6 go to ES#5, have they stated that they will provde bus service? Or is this still up in the air? If they have not made this decision, then I'm not sure how people can make an informed decision without all the info.

RP6 is the Tower Oaks neighborhood - they are not in the walk zone. All of those children will be bused.

[Anonymous]

I will have no problem to have them if that would help them have a greater chance to succeed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that ~25min busing is not desirable, but how about those kids who lives 0.9mile from school have to walk ~20+ min daily without access to a car, in heat, wind, rain, snow, ice?
It is definitely not "wonderful walking distance", it is some times miserable..

And what about kids in those same circumstances who live in Twinbrook? Do you advocate busing them to a different school, too? There are community support measures that can be put in place (both official MCPS ones and informal ones from neighbors) so that children do not need to walk alone and in bad weather. That is not a reason to bus children to a completely different school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that ~25min busing is not desirable, but how about those kids who lives 0.9mile from school have to walk ~20+ min daily without access to a car, in heat, wind, rain, snow, ice?
It is definitely not "wonderful walking distance", it is some times miserable..

And what about kids in those same circumstances who live in Twinbrook? Do you advocate busing them to a different school, too? There are community support measures that can be put in place (both official MCPS ones and informal ones from neighbors) so that children do not need to walk alone and in bad weather. That is not a reason to bus children to a completely different school.

Exactly. What about Wheaton, Silver Spring, Kensington, etc... Do you all advocate we bus them away from their walkable schools?

Also, the furthest walk for RP2 is 0.8 miles. That is a little more than 3 times around a track. It isn't miles away, uphill, in 5ft of snow kinda crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree here as well. Enough of political correct talk. RP PTA first email was spot on.

- Another RP parent

Was there a second email? I only read the one stating that 7% is already more than the neighboring schools.

Second was a toned down version to keep it politically correct. Anyway, RP Parents should speak up. IF WG can all that noise without having any valid concern, I think we have a good argument here. RP is near Potomac and not a typical Rockville neighborhood. 7% is already high.

This is a terrible argument and the second email was not written to be politically correct, but just to be clear that the pta wanted everybody to be free to voice their opinions.

The argument we are taking isn’t meant to arrive at any particular farms rate, but to recognize that the neighborhood configuration is best served by option b. The other options lead to busing or travel increases. The other options often split more neighborhoods into islands and isolate. Ommuniti a from their elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

WG made lots of speeches citing neighborhood school and lots of parents cheered it.

Why can't RP parents make the argument about neighborhood having less than 7% FARMs? We also pay taxes and probably pay higher taxes than other parts of RM cluster. It's not fair to get high FARMS rate in RP cluster just to balance things out. We are already helping entire cluster in many ways. First email from RP PTA was spot on.

It is all about the numbers dummy.

(RP1+RP3+RP4) are only 217 students , white and 0% FARMs . Your aging population can never sustain a neighborhood school so you reserve to busing children from Gaithersburg .

Shut down RP and move the kids to RMES#5 !!!!

Actually, it is 4.1% farms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will have no problem to have them if that would help them have a greater chance to succeed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree that ~25min busing is not desirable, but how about those kids who lives 0.9mile from school have to walk ~20+ min daily without access to a car, in heat, wind, rain, snow, ice?
It is definitely not "wonderful walking distance", it is some times miserable..

And what about kids in those same circumstances who live in Twinbrook? Do you advocate busing them to a different school, too? There are community support measures that can be put in place (both official MCPS ones and informal ones from neighbors) so that children do not need to walk alone and in bad weather. That is not a reason to bus children to a completely different school.

So then let's get some options out there that takes T1 away from Twinbrook and busses them to another. Let's see how happy they would be about that. I love rich people who think they know what is best for poor people. Why was Twinbrook advocating to stay together? Wouldn't those T1 families prefer to get bussed then if YOU think it helps them? They also get a lower FARMS school. But they don't want that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree here as well. Enough of political correct talk. RP PTA first email was spot on.

- Another RP parent

Was there a second email? I only read the one stating that 7% is already more than the neighboring schools.

Second was a toned down version to keep it politically correct. Anyway, RP Parents should speak up. IF WG can all that noise without having any valid concern, I think we have a good argument here. RP is near Potomac and not a typical Rockville neighborhood. 7% is already high.

This is a terrible argument and the second email was not written to be politically correct, but just to be clear that the pta wanted everybody to be free to voice their opinions.

The argument we are taking isn’t meant to arrive at any particular farms rate, but to recognize that the neighborhood configuration is best served by option b. The other options lead to busing or travel increases. The other options often split more neighborhoods into islands and isolate. Ommuniti a from their elementary schools.

Please don't feed to anti-RP troll acting like obnoxious RP parents to prove a point.